Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[Rman]

The Mysterio episode is the Emergence one and it's surprisingly close to Agents of SHIELD season 5, but more importantly I will never slander this Agatha episode again. Stark Pictures is literally from Agent Carter…CanonCHADS we just won big off this

Agent Carter was the one show Feige was actually involved with. It’s not too surprising he’s taking from it before stuff like AoS. Plus James D'Arcy was already in Endgame and there’s talk he’ll be in VisionQuest.

 

[selfishmisery]

Agent Carter was the one show Feige was actually involved with. It's not too surprising he's taking from it before stuff like AoS. Plus James D'Arcy was already in Endgame and there's talk he'll be in VisionQuest.

so Agent Carter might be the closest an ABC/Marvel show is to canon?
Weirdly, AoS is dead last of the 3's "canonicity" since we got Black Bolt's actor from the Inhumans show back as a Earth-838 variant.

 

[selfishmisery]

Then again, it's easier to keep track of 26 episodes worth of continuity rather than 136 episodes from ONE show (Agents of SHIELD)

 

[Rman]

so Agent Carter might be the closest an ABC/Marvel show is to canon?

For the moment, I do think it’s the easiest to add in given it’s a prequel to the majority of the MCU and the only real contradiction is the one shot. But people already headcanon that SHIELD was put on hold causing Peggy to go back to the SSR. I think Feige having somewhat of a role along with people like Joe Russo and Markus and McFeely helped it out a lot.

 

[Rman]

Then again, it's easier to keep track of 26 episodes worth of continuity rather than 136 episodes from ONE show (Agents of SHIELD)

And like I said Feige and Markus and McFeely being involved probably help. To this day I still believe Whedon leaving after Age of Ultron (on top of Feige separating from Perlmutter) is part of the reason AoS became more isolated as the show no longer had that connection with the movies.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

This is less on including the Kahhori and TVA comics specifically, but wouldn't everyone agree that if a scene set in the MCU appears in a movie, show or comic, that scene should be on the timeline (Let There Be Carnage credits/The Last Dance prologue)? For example, say a character from Earth-616 goes to Earth-199999 briefly for 2 pages, it would make sense that those two pages would be on the timeline even though the issue as a whole shouldn't be. That's what we did with Let There Be Carnage anyway. This is a timeline for the MCU so I feel that every scene that occurred in that universe should be covered even if the individual appearance isn't.

I can get behind this.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Won't happen, but would be fun if the timeline 'sickness' threat in the TVA comics were these fellas.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Eaters

In other words, they're essentially the same as the Reapers in Doctor Who?
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Reaper

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Good, now resolve the Michael Carter guy who shot Jack Thompson cliffhanger and let LMD Phil Coulson get his signed Captain America cards.

THIS!! The cliffhanger of Thompson being shot by Peggy's brother will always miff me, especially the fact that it wasn't followed up at all.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

For the moment, I do think it's the easiest to add in given it's a prequel to the majority of the MCU and the only real contradiction is the one shot. But people already headcanon that SHIELD was put on hold causing Peggy to go back to the SSR. I think Feige having somewhat of a role along with people like Joe Russo and Markus and McFeely helped it out a lot.

I mean, yeah, the one-shot makes more sense to come before the TV series, especially with the theory that Howard's troubles in Season 1 caused SHIELD to be put on the backburner.

 

[BabyBomber]

Spoiler: TVA #1 takeaways

• The opening text mentioning the TVA being located in the Null Time Zone suggests that this is in fact the same comic TVA as before and they remark that it makes discussing their history difficult (obviously alluding to the discrepancy between the comic and MCU TVA), but they use the events of Loki to segue into this current TVA

• Very much dealer's choice but the phrasing "…past moments in the history of Earth-616, (the TVA have) proven to be strict stewards of time travel and averse to the alteration of their 'sacred timeline.'" can be interpreted as monitoring comics 616 and *their* Sacred Timeline (the MCU). But more than likely they're just referring to the MCU

• Loki statue (in his Time Lord attire) in place of He Who Remains/Timekeepers

• Not certain which Captain Carter this is (they're going by Captain Britain) but I'd wager it's either a new Variant or the Earth-76 one

 

[Jozaca]

In other words, they're essentially the same as the Reapers in Doctor Who?
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Reaper

Or the Time Wraiths from the Arrowverse
https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Wraiths

 

[Rman]

I mean, yeah, the one-shot makes more sense to come before the TV series, especially with the theory that Howard's troubles in Season 1 caused SHIELD to be put on the backburner.

The One-Shot gives March 1946 dates while the show begins in April 1946. So, no matter what it would be before it. Plus if I'm remembering correctly the show used shots from the one-shot in the montage of Peggy’s past.

 

[Slyonic]

Marvel TV Boss Addresses The Question Of Whether Agents of SHIELD And Agent Carter Are MCU Canon After Years Of Debate

Brad Winderbaum: Well, I'll tell you this, and put it to you like this. It's exciting for me to think about how to square those ABC shows with the canon. That, to me, if you know me and the way my brain works, that is fun territory to imagine.

ScreenRant: Well, I have a list that breaks down episodically where it would fit into the MCU. So I'll send it to you after this.

Brad Winderbaum: I need it. I need it.

Yikes.

 

[Rman]

Marvel TV Boss Addresses The Question Of Whether Agents of SHIELD And Agent Carter Are MCU Canon After Years Of Debate



Yikes.

Not surprised really.

 

[Pro Bot]

That doesn't really sound bad at all. Sounds like he's thinking about how it fits into the MCU canon and that excites him.

 

[Rman]

That doesn't really sound bad at all. Sounds like he's thinking about how it fits into the MCU canon and that excites him.

I mean the head of Marvel Television not already having an idea of that is pretty telling. I think it does show the lack of consideration they've had for them. But we really shouldn't be surprised since when it came to the Netflix shows they just blindly followed the wiki.

 

[selfishmisery]

THIS!! The cliffhanger of Thompson being shot by Peggy's brother will always miff me, especially the fact that it wasn't followed up at all.

Maybe they can tie that back to Sharon Carter, aka Michael Carter's granddaughter, being a traitorous crook like her old granddad?

 

[Megatron]

I mean the head of Marvel Television not already having an idea of that is pretty telling. I think it does show the lack of consideration they've had for them. But we really shouldn't be surprised since when it came to the Netflix shows they just blindly followed the wiki.

actually, the Wiki took into canon the Google+ campaign, which this timeline didn't.

One of their post says that crime rate in NY is lowering alluding to Daredevil, and for that to be true, Darevil must be around for some time and also before the Hell's Kitchen explosion, as the post was released in January I don't remmeber 2015, this places Daredevil season 1 between January to February, and so Jessica goes to March trough April and so forth and on.

So tecnically both this and the wiki are right, this timeline just decided to build it around dates in the Series, while the wiki was altered by the posts.

 

[Rman]

actually, the Wiki took into canon the Google+ campaign, which this timeline didn't.

One of their post says that crime rate in NY is lowering alluding to Daredevil, and for that to be true, Darevil must be around for some time and also before the Hell's Kitchen explosion, as the post was released in January I don't remmeber 2015, this places Daredevil season 1 between January to February, and so Jessica goes to March trough April and so forth and on.

So tecnically both this and the wiki are right, this timeline just decided to build it around dates in the Series, while the wiki was altered by the posts.

I’m not saying the wiki is always wrong and some of their placements are fine. But looking at how they handled placing the shows on the Disney+ timeline, they just copied and pasted. I’ve been in the middle of a rewatch of the Netflix series and to be honest it was a struggle placing stuff like Iron Fist in February when the weather is Spring/Summer (kids jumping around in a fire hydrant isn’t something that happens in February) and Defenders in May when the weather is clearly Fall/Winter.

 

[eloesch289]

https://www.marvel.com/articles/com...ers-inspired-by-the-marvel-cinematic-universe
"Unlike the other characters in this list, Kahhori is not just inspired by her silver screen counterpart; she actually is the same character from Marvel Animations' What If…? series."

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