Arrowverse / DC-CW Timeline (v 3.0)

Mr. Selfish that's awesome! I'm glad you're finishing this as I wanted to really dive in the arrowverse, cos I interrupted during the second half of Arrow Season 2 just to wait this timeline to be complete.

And for what I read/Watch I have a suggeriment that I hope at least can be taken into consideration, and it's about the Simplified Reading/Watching Order.

I'm talking about these comics:

Arrow #14, "Call to the Bar"
Arrow #19, "Wintergreen"
Arrow #29, "Shado of the Past"
Arrow #5, "Fathoms"
Arrow #18, "Keep 'em Coming"


As at the time I started in completely blind I was completely confused when I saw Deathsroke appear out of nowhere or everything else that happens in those comics, callbacks included. So my advice is to change the comics' placements to be slotted after the flashbacks they take place, basically something like this:

Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1, "Time's Arrow"
Arrow #3, "China White"

Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow #4, "Diggle"
Arrow - Special Edition #1, "Test Drive"

Arrow 1x04, "An Innocent Man"
Arrow 1x05, "Damaged"
Arrow 1x06, "Legacies"
Arrow #2, "Prey"
Arrow #6, "Moscow"
Arrow #7, "Boys Night"
Arrow #8, "[REC.]"
Arrow #10, "Caged"

Arrow 1x07, "Muse of Fire"
Arrow #9, "Falling"
Arrow 1x08, "Vendetta"
Arrow #11, "Huntress Year One"
Arrow #12, "Limbo"
Arrow #13, "Shanghai"
Arrow #15, "6:15 to Starling City"
Arrow #17, "Two Minute Warning"

Arrow 1x09, "Year's End"
Arrow 1x10, "Burned"
Arrow 1x11, "Trust But Verify"
Arrow #16, "Sins of the Father"
Arrow #25, "The Pieces Missing"

Arrow 1x12, "Vertigo"
Arrow 1x13, "Betrayal"
Arrow #19, "Wintergreen"
Arrow 1x14, "The Odyssey"
Arrow #29, "Shado of the Past"
Arrow 1x15, "Dodger"
Arrow #20, "Make it Rain"
Arrow #21, "Detour"
Arrow #23, "Hunters"
Arrow #24, "Diamond in the Rough"
Arrow #26, "Lapse"

Arrow 1x16, "Dead of Rights"
Arrow #22, "Back from the Deadshot"
Arrow #32, "From the Darkness"
Arrow #27, "Lone Hunter"

Arrow 1x17, "The Huntress Returns"
Arrow 1x18, "Salvation"
Arrow #33, "Potential"
Arrow 1x19, "Unfinished Business"
Arrow #28, "Aftermath"
Arrow #30, "Patient Zero"
Arrow #31, "No Way Out"

Arrow 1x20, "Home Invasion"
Arrow 1x21, "The Undertaking"
Arrow #34, "You Owe Me"
Arrow 1x22, "Darkness on the Edge of Town"
Arrow 1x23, "Sacrifice"
Arrow #5, "Fathoms"
Arrow #35, "Sacrifices, Part 1"
Arrow #36, "Sacrifices, Part 2"


Only comics that I don't know how to reconcile are issue #14 and 18, but I'll prolly slot 14, after the episode it was revealed that Lauren can take care of herself and issue 18 after the episode when we got deeper into Quentin Lance's Character.

And ofc keeping them all in Season 1 since they were made to fit there.
 
Mr. Selfish that's awesome! I'm glad you're finishing this as I wanted to really dive in the arrowverse, cos I interrupted during the second half of Arrow Season 2 just to wait this timeline to be complete.

And for what I read/Watch I have a suggeriment that I hope at least can be taken into consideration, and it's about the Simplified Reading/Watching Order.

I'm talking about these comics:

Arrow #14, "Call to the Bar"
Arrow #19, "Wintergreen"
Arrow #29, "Shado of the Past"
Arrow #5, "Fathoms"
Arrow #18, "Keep 'em Coming"


As at the time I started in completely blind I was completely confused when I saw Deathsroke appear out of nowhere or everything else that happens in those comics, callbacks included. So my advice is to change the comics' placements to be slotted after the flashbacks they take place, basically something like this:

Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1, "Time's Arrow"
Arrow #3, "China White"

Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow #4, "Diggle"
Arrow - Special Edition #1, "Test Drive"

Arrow 1x04, "An Innocent Man"
Arrow 1x05, "Damaged"
Arrow 1x06, "Legacies"
Arrow #2, "Prey"
Arrow #6, "Moscow"
Arrow #7, "Boys Night"
Arrow #8, "[REC.]"
Arrow #10, "Caged"

Arrow 1x07, "Muse of Fire"
Arrow #9, "Falling"
Arrow 1x08, "Vendetta"
Arrow #11, "Huntress Year One"
Arrow #12, "Limbo"
Arrow #13, "Shanghai"
Arrow #15, "6:15 to Starling City"
Arrow #17, "Two Minute Warning"

Arrow 1x09, "Year's End"
Arrow 1x10, "Burned"
Arrow 1x11, "Trust But Verify"
Arrow #16, "Sins of the Father"
Arrow #25, "The Pieces Missing"

Arrow 1x12, "Vertigo"
Arrow 1x13, "Betrayal"
Arrow #19, "Wintergreen"
Arrow 1x14, "The Odyssey"
Arrow #29, "Shado of the Past"
Arrow 1x15, "Dodger"
Arrow #20, "Make it Rain"
Arrow #21, "Detour"
Arrow #23, "Hunters"
Arrow #24, "Diamond in the Rough"
Arrow #26, "Lapse"

Arrow 1x16, "Dead of Rights"
Arrow #22, "Back from the Deadshot"
Arrow #32, "From the Darkness"
Arrow #27, "Lone Hunter"

Arrow 1x17, "The Huntress Returns"
Arrow 1x18, "Salvation"
Arrow #33, "Potential"
Arrow 1x19, "Unfinished Business"
Arrow #28, "Aftermath"
Arrow #30, "Patient Zero"
Arrow #31, "No Way Out"

Arrow 1x20, "Home Invasion"
Arrow 1x21, "The Undertaking"
Arrow #34, "You Owe Me"
Arrow 1x22, "Darkness on the Edge of Town"
Arrow 1x23, "Sacrifice"
Arrow #5, "Fathoms"
Arrow #35, "Sacrifices, Part 1"
Arrow #36, "Sacrifices, Part 2"


Only comics that I don't know how to reconcile are issue #14 and 18, but I'll prolly slot 14, after the episode it was revealed that Lauren can take care of herself and issue 18 after the episode when we got deeper into Quentin Lance's Character.

And ofc keeping them all in Season 1 since they were made to fit there.
Well, good thing that's early on in the viewing order so I can adjust it to where it's not as whiplash inducing during the second try. :)
 
I'm probably going to go through Legends of Tomorrow first for the timestamp corrections; since it is the most expansive in the timeline due to it being a time travel series.
 
Well, good thing that's early on in the viewing order so I can adjust it to where it's not as whiplash inducing during the second try. :)
Could you keep them where they are, and add them after the flashbacks, with citation based on a first time watch/read and any other time? If you've already changed them, that's fine, I was think it'd be neat. I'd propose a separate watch/read order for a first time viewing, but that'd be a lot of unnecessary repeats
 
Thoughts on Ray referencing the Justice League in Freedom Fighters: The Ray? I guess the Justice League existed at one point in one of Earth-1's many timeline states?
 
Thoughts on Ray referencing the Justice League in Freedom Fighters: The Ray? I guess the Justice League existed at one point in one of Earth-1's many timeline states?
They were going to be formed in the erased future of Earth-1, they were ultimately formed on Earth-Prime.
Thought that was obvious?
 
I can't find the specific reference right now, I've seen it in the past, but here's TV Tropes and @Dallas Kinard's notes.
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Also, apparently there's a January 8th, 2018 newspaper. Dialogue places it in 2017. Perhaps you could take it as January 2017?
I will this week. Fairly busy tomorrow.

I guess he meant "Justice Society" and misremembered weirdly enough. I dunno.
 
Maybe it's an unofficial name, or the movie is set in an erased timeline caused by either Barry or the Legends. Problem solved?
It's close to the events of The Flash Climate Changeling novel, which involves Pied Piper, and I think they erased something with him not long after this IIRC that would negate that novel ever happening.
 
I think the only important Arrowverse point is that Mr. Terrific is active. Barry's Season 1 suit and Oliver's Season 4 suit is unimportant here. They just wore different clothes here, for whatever reason.
 
I mean, even still, by the events of Crisis on Earth-X, the heroes no longer remember Ray. Clearly some timeline shenanigans happened off-screen between events to make it all fit.
 
Well, there's 3 "stages" of DC's Live-action Multiverse for starters:
1.) The 1st "stage" - Smallville (Earth-167) basically sets the stage for the Multiverse concept in season 10 and the Season 11 comics, although it never brings up other live-action continuities and it basically wipes out a bunch of nothing-Earths of the higher echelon to a smaller number by the time the Arrowverse begins - until Crisis on Infinite Earths.

2.) The 2nd "stage" is Post-Crisis. More on that when I have the time to explain what order, chicken-and-the-egg, that provides. It encompasses most of what I listed above. Some like Batman '66 existed before Crisis, but again, more on that later. Others are newly created for this "stage" of the Multiverse.

3.) The Flash film essentially causes the 3rd and final iteration of the live-action multiverse - Post-Flashpoint. This is a largely vague and so far unexplored territory/period for DC right now. The DCEU, DCU, Arrowverse (Earth-Prime) and Superman & Lois's unknown Earth are 100% part of it. Other Earths that existed prior to Flashpoint (but post-Crisis) presumably still exist or merged with other Earths. The specifics aren't fully explained yet, that's all for Gunn's team to decide for the future.

I'll give the viewing order later. Just wanted to explain the background some.
Sorry to bother (or pressure if it comes across as such), but have you got any updates on the viewing order?
 

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