AXIS Discusion w/Spoilers

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Captain Canuck

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So far I haven't really thought much of AXIS, but issue #5 was pretty good. I feel like it shouldn't have taken 4 issues of set up to get here though. Remender could have done the fight with Red Onslaught in 1.5 issues and used the rest of issue two to establish that the heroes and villains had switched. Anyway, now that it's gotten it's momentum going, I'm interested to see where it goes.
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
So far I haven't really thought much of AXIS, but issue #5 was pretty good. I feel like it shouldn't have taken 4 issues of set up to get here though. Remender could have done the fight with Red Onslaught in 1.5 issues and used the rest of issue two to establish that the heroes and villains had switched. Anyway, now that it's gotten it's momentum going, I'm interested to see where it goes.
Agreed with everything.

Plus, it would've been better to show something that the spell went wrong. At least a better way of showing it, I mean.
 

Captain Canuck

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So I'm starting to think that AXIS only exists to set up the tie-ins. Most of the issues of the main book are a chain of snippits of each of the characters.
 

E

Moderator
Excelsior Club
Did you guys read #7?

Marvel retconned Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver as Magneto's children.

I read someone say that they are Inhumans now. I skimmed over the relevant pages and I'm not seeing where it says that, only that they aren't truly his kids (though they are still brother and sister).

Where does it say they are Inhumans?
 

Captain Canuck

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Did you guys read #7?

Marvel retconned Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver as Magneto's children.

I read someone say that they are Inhumans now. I skimmed over the relevant pages and I'm not seeing where it says that, only that they aren't truly his kids (though they are still brother and sister).

Where does it say they are Inhumans?
It doesn't say they're Inhumans. Nothing changed, they just "revealed" that they never had been Magneto's children at all. :roll:
 

E

Moderator
Excelsior Club
It doesn't say they're Inhumans. Nothing changed, they just "revealed" that they never had been Magneto's children at all. :roll:
I looked a little more into it and it seems like that's what is expected to happen, and it's related to the movie rights and the (rumored?) desire for Marvel to use the Inhumans to replace the X-Men in the movieverse. I also read that it has already been established that Toro (Human Torch) has been retconned as being Inhuman.
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
I also read that it has already been established that Toro (Human Torch) has been retconned as being Inhuman.
Unless it was in All-New Invaders, that doesn't seem true with reading Fantastic Four, which he's been in.
 
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Captain Canuck

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I looked a little more into it and it seems like that's what is expected to happen, and it's related to the movie rights and the (rumored?) desire for Marvel to use the Inhumans to replace the X-Men in the movieverse. I also read that it has already been established that Toro (Human Torch) has been retconned as being Inhuman.
They would have to actually change reality for that, not just retcon it. It's been established that at least Pietro is definitely a mutant (and since they are twins, Wanda couldn't somehow be Inhuman). He lost his mutant powers in M-Day. (I'm not sure when he got them back, actually). And when he stole terrigen crystals to try and regain his powers, they gave him weird time travelly powers, but they were only temporary because he is not an Inhuman. On top of that, I assume at some point Xavier has used Cerebro to find them too, which would require them to be mutants.
 
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mike3717

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I looked a little more into it and it seems like that's what is expected to happen, and it's related to the movie rights and the (rumored?) desire for Marvel to use the Inhumans to replace the X-Men in the movieverse. I also read that it has already been established that Toro (Human Torch) has been retconned as being Inhuman.
So they are writing their crummy movie deals into the comics. Interesting choice.
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
I am. It's not terrible, just...not much of an event. Feels more like an arc from Uncanny Avengers.
 
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E

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Excelsior Club
Unless it was in All-New Invaders, that doesn't seem true with reading Fantastic Four, which he's been in.
I don't know. I'm not reading FF, and I'm only repeating something I read. I read someone say that him being an Inhuman now was just mentioned in passing and it wasn't something that we saw or was expanded on in any detail. No idea what book it was said in.
 

wyokid

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I think it's funny how people are upset about this whole Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch thing when that's literally always been their thing. Nights of Wundagore is a classic and a classic case of that. Hell, when The Whizzer died he though they were his kids.
 

Captain Canuck

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So AXIS is over. It wasn't the worst event I've ever read, but it wasn't nearly as good as I was hoping it would be.

Going in, I thought this was going to be the conclusion to everything Remender has been building to in Uncanny Avengers, with the "seven becoming one" or whatever (from the end of Uncanny Avengers #4). But it wasn't that at all.
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
So AXIS is over. It wasn't the worst event I've ever read, but it wasn't nearly as good as I was hoping it would be.

Going in, I thought this was going to be the conclusion to everything Remender has been building to in Uncanny Avengers, with the "seven becoming one" or whatever (from the end of Uncanny Avengers #4). But it wasn't that at all.
Yeah. It's a little disappointing it wasn't what we expected or wanted it to be. As I said, this felt more like a regular arc in Uncanny Avengers than an actual event.
 

Captain Canuck

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Yeah. It's a little disappointing it wasn't what we expected or wanted it to be. As I said, this felt more like a regular arc in Uncanny Avengers than an actual event.
a regular arc that was bloated so it could include tie-ins.
 
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