Batman (1966)/Wonder Woman (1975) - Timeline (outdated)

[iceman109]

What makes you think that the megaverse exists?

 

[Pro Bot]

Because they're the same realities...

 

[iceman109]

How are they the same reality if they have completely different lore for the villains?

 

[Megatron]

How are they the same reality if they have completely different lore for the villains?

Wdym? Can you explain further?

 

[iceman109]

When you compare Two Face from Batman 66: The Lost Episode and Two Face from Batman vs Two Face they have two completely different backgrounds

 

[Pro Bot]

They technically hint that Two-Face could return in the movie. So, normal Harvey Dent overcomes his evil side, then gets scarred, then becomes Two-Face again. It's not the cleanest but it's acceptable. That comic is also the most disposable since it's technically based on unused material if I recall correctly, but it still fits in a weird way.

 

[iceman109]

Why would Two Face want to be evil again?

 

[Jozaca]

It is funny that it is always Two-Face the one with two different origins in both Earth-66 and 89

 

[Megatron]

Why would Two Face want to be evil again?

So for the Little informations I know, the comics have notes referencing episodes from the series. The Two face comic you are referencing Is called the Lost episode and the First animated movies the Returns of the caped crusader. All of this evidences tell US that all this media are intended to be set in the same Universe as the TV series. Even the problem with the Lost episode can be explained Like mr. Pro Bot sayed, but if you won't take that Remember that continuity errors are a thing. The post-crisis comic universe new-earth had both retcons and continuity errors. So this can be One of this cases.

 

[iceman109]

Why are you willing to discard something that was made officially canon?

 

[Megatron]

Why are you willing to discard something that was made officially canon?

Nope, never sayed that.

 

[iceman109]

They technically hint that Two-Face could return in the movie. So, normal Harvey Dent overcomes his evil side, then gets scarred, then becomes Two-Face again. It's not the cleanest but it's acceptable. That comic is also the most disposable since it's technically based on unused material if I recall correctly, but it still fits in a weird way.

That's what Pro Bot said though

 

[Pro Bot]

I never said it wasn't canon though.

 

[iceman109]

But you did imply it could be erased

 

[Pro Bot]

I'm saying that, at worst, it's disposable because it's based on an unused script, but that it still fits canon. It's literally a comic called "The Lost Episode". It's still canon but you can see why it could be ignored.

 

[iceman109]

Why does there have to be a megaverse, can't they just be separate realities with similarities to each other?

 

[Megatron]

Why does there have to be a megaverse, can't they just be separate realities with similarities to each other?

Nope coz they are all made by DC Comics.

 

[iceman109]

What's does Batman 66 being made by DC have to do with anything?

 

[Megatron]

What's does Batman 66 being made by DC have to do with anything?

Meaning that It Is set in DC's multiverses AKA DC's megaverse.

 

[iceman109]

When has DC ever officially acknowledged the megaverses existence?

 

[Megatron]

Why does there have to be a megaverse, can't they just be separate realities with similarities to each other?

Aldo, we already discussed that, of all the realities are in the same multiverse, why the Crisis events doesn't affect all the earths, Even the stories. The monitor and the anti-monitor are multiversal singularity and both go through different events in the 1985 Crisis of infinite earths comic event and the 2019 Crisis of infinite earths TV event. Before you says that the multiverse Is infinite and can't affect all the earths, we wouldn't have the reboot multiverses both from the comics and TV. We can Even go with the name if all the earths are in the same multiverse we have 3 Earth-prime, 1 from the comics, 1 from the live action stuff and 1 from animation. Literally there Isn't One single thing that works by putting all the earths into One multiverse.

 

[iceman109]

I can understand why ther a separate multiverse for the comics but what does Crisis rebooting earths have to do with its effect on the rest of the Multiverse?

 

[Megatron]

When has DC ever officially acknowledged the megaverses existence?

The comic multiverse was Born during the 60s, then they did crossovers with Marvel so the megaverse with Marvel was created during the 70s and more prominent during the 80s since Earth-1 Barry ended up to Marvel's Earth-616 After the Crisis. The animated multiverse was started really with the DCAU into the 90s and we can Say that Is a different multiverse since Darkside doesn't work Like his comic counterpart. The live action multiverse was started in the 2010s during the arrowverse run and had different earth numbers, Darkside is again a multiversal singularity and we have different Crisis events. So Like you see the megaverse was revealed Little by Little.

 

[Megatron]

I can understand why ther a separate multiverse for the comics but what does Crisis rebooting earths have to do with its effect on the rest of the Multiverse?

Coz we coudn't go to the next phase of the multiverse. If the Crisis doesn't affect all the multiverse we can't have a post-crisis multiverse etc...

 

[iceman109]

I'm going to use a Marvel analogy here not all earths were affected by the Battleworld event though

 

[Jozaca]

The comic multiverse was Born in 1935, then they did crossovers with Marvel so the megaverse with Marvel was created during the 70s and more prominent during the 80s since Earth-1 Barry ended up to Marvel's Earth-616 After the Crisis. The animated multiverse was started really with the DCAU into the 90s and we can Say that Is a different multiverse since Darkside doesn't work Like his comic counterpart. The live action multiverse was started in the 2010s during the arrowverse run and had different earth numbers, Darkside is again a multiversal singularity and we have different Crisis events. So Like you see the megaverse was revealed Little by Little.

Changing the subject, I was actually thinking about this yeaterday. Barry Allen from Earth-1 ended up in Marvel Earth-616, but that was a one sided crossover by Marvel part, that was contradicted by subsecuent explanations about what happened to Barry Allen like he turning into the lightning that hit him, etc. But the alternate explanations were Post-Crisis, and a version of the Crisis happened in Post-Crisis but with one Earth, so, if we make a distinction between the Post and Pre Crisis Barrys, then could it be that in fact Burried Alien IS Pre-Crisis Barry Allen, ironically by "dying" in the Crisis he is one of the few survivors of the Pre-Crisis Multiverse. I have got something wrong or does it make sense?

 

[Megatron]

I'm going to use a Marvel analogy here not all earths were affected by the Battleworld event though

You Mean Secret Wars 1984? Well coz they Returned things to Normal, It wasn't a reboot. The only reboot Marvel had was with the Onslought stuff. And anyway, Marvel and DC multiverses doesn't work the same way.

 

[Megatron]

Changing the subject, I was actually thinking about this yeaterday. Barry Allen from Earth-1 ended up in Marvel Earth-616, but that was a one sided crossover by Marvel part, that was contradicted by subsecuent explanations about what happened to Barry Allen like he turning into the lightning that hit him, etc. But the alternate explanations were Post-Crisis, and a version of the Crisis happened in Post-Crisis but with one Earth, so, if we make a distinction between the Post and Pre Crisis Barrys, then could it be that in fact Burried Alien IS Pre-Crisis Barry Allen, ironically by "dying" in the Crisis he is one of the few survivors of the Pre-Crisis Multiverse. I have got something wrong or does it make sense?

Or maybe he didn't end up on earth-616 yet, he Is a bit older there.

 

[Megatron]

Changing the subject, I was actually thinking about this yeaterday. Barry Allen from Earth-1 ended up in Marvel Earth-616, but that was a one sided crossover by Marvel part, that was contradicted by subsecuent explanations about what happened to Barry Allen like he turning into the lightning that hit him, etc. But the alternate explanations were Post-Crisis, and a version of the Crisis happened in Post-Crisis but with one Earth, so, if we make a distinction between the Post and Pre Crisis Barrys, then could it be that in fact Burried Alien IS Pre-Crisis Barry Allen, ironically by "dying" in the Crisis he is one of the few survivors of the Pre-Crisis Multiverse. I have got something wrong or does it make sense?

Also if I Remember correctly didn't happened a Crisis of infinite earths in post Crisis, It was Just the original charachters Remembering the Crisis on the post Crisis bodies.

 

[iceman109]

What I meant with the Secret Wars event was that not all universes were affected