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and the Gorillaz reference get you a +1

I should get +4, the issue titles were Gorillaz songs too.

Hah! I love it Houde! Everything from the band dynamic to the image of Grodd (in a cowboy hat and moustache) and Ultra-Humanite sitting in a record producer's office, trying to sell him on their star.

Oh god, the imagery in this would be pure hilarity. I can see the insults Grodd and Ultra-Humanite would throw at each other.

Grodd is eating hippies. I would always read that.

Well, Grodd eats people and I hate hippies, so there, Grodd eats hippies. Everyone is happy.
 
SUPERMAN/LUTHOR: THE ROOTS OF ALL EVIL

I pitched this in the Elseworlds round but I think it's cool enough to actually be a miniseries.

Issue 1
Rocketed from the planet Krypton to the planet Earth decades ago, the baby Kal El was directed towards a small farm in Kansas. Due to an asteroid knocking the rocket off course the rocket in fact landed in the Suicide Slums of Metropolis. The rocket is found by Lionel Luthor, a cruel man with a wife and son, the young Alexander Luthor. Finding an infant in the rocket, Lionel almost kills the baby thinking it a Russian space baby. Before he can exterminate it his wife stops him, telling him that the baby was a sign. Lionel would agree and go on to name the child Leonardo, after Leonardo da Vinchi. The years pass as both Lex and Leo become teenagers. Due to his inherent physical aptitude Leo is loved most by his father due to the potential career in sports he would have. Jealous of his brother, Lex puts out a large insurance policy on his parents. Days later, as the parents and Leo are riding in their car; it spins out of control and crashes into a ravine, killing his parents. Leo, however, is unharmed as his powers activate during the crash. Discovering that his brother has powers, Lex decides to exploit him for his own needs. Using the money gained from the insurance, both Lex and Leo set off across the world in order to take over the world.

Issue 2
After years of traveling abroad, Lex has gained a reputation as the world's foremost up and coming scientist. He has built several new weapons for the United States military and has earned a reputation as the smartest man in the world. Luthor has finally finished construction of Luthor Towers in Metropolis, the largest buildings in the world. Lex is a media darling, and is even engaged to the beautiful reporter Lois Lane of the Daily Planet, of which he owns. During a hostile takeover of the conglomerate Wayne Enterprises, Wayne outbids Luthor and keeps him from taking over his company. Infuriated by his loss to Wayne, Luthor orders a strike against the CEO. Later on his plane ride home, Wayne's plane is taken down by a missile-like object. Wayne is reported dead and Luthor proceeds to take over Wayne Enterprises. Later, a state of the art plane, which Lois Lane is reporting from, begins to crash. Just when the ship is about to crash, a red streak flies past the plane and catches it in mid-air. The plane is set down gently on the ground as Lois and the other reporters leave the plane confused. Floating in front of them is Leo, dressed in a red and black uniform and an 'S' displayed on his chest.

Issue 3
With the media buzzing over the new hero, attention towards Luthor's controversial takeover of Wayne Enterprises is almost all but died down. As no one had seen Lex's brother before, the identity of the new "Super-Man" *** Luthor is calling him is still unknown. Back at the Luthor mansion, Lex reveals to Leo that he was going to reveal him sooner or later and with the media attention towards him for the Wayne takeover the timing was perfect. Leo then asks him what he plans to do and Luthor plans to use him as a media distraction for some of Luthor's seedier business operations. Luthor tells him to continue on saving people and helping the "little man." Luthor then goes to meet with Lois at dinner while Leo continues his patrol of Metropolis. During dinner, Luthor and Lois talk about his brother taking on the Super-Man identity. Lois had known Leo before the incident and knew that he was Super-Man and was asking Lex what he was planning. Luthor told her that he felt that Super-Man was needed to protect the citizens of Metropolis. Lois is skeptical, but decides that her fiancée is really telling the truth. On the beaches outside of Metropolis, a figure comes out from the water, broken and bleeding. It's revealed to be Bruce Wayne, who calls Alfred to come pick him up. He also reveals that Luthor is finally going to get what's coming to him.

Issue 4
In the middle of Metropolis the terrorist cell known as Intergang is attempting to attack Luthor's high-tech weapons stock. Super-Man flies in and stops the men, sending them to prison. Later, in a press conference, Bruno Mannheim, a Metropolis businessman, denies reports that he is in charge of Intergang and gets off free due to lack of evidence. Furious at this, Luthor orders tells Leo that something needs to be done about Mannheim. That night in his office, Mannheim reads over some documents when he notices Super-Man standing behind him. Mannheim attempts to escape but is pinned against the wall by Super-Man. Super-Man looks at him and incinerates him with his heat-vision. He drops Mannheim's lifeless body to the ground and then starts a fire in his office, burning down the building. News reports show the death of Mannheim and think that the fire was accidental. Lois begins to question Lex's innocence to Perry White, but he shoots her down stating that Lex controls the paper and won't stand for it. Lois continues searching the situation without Perry knowing. Back in Gotham City, Bruce sits in the Batcave watching footage of the fire and asks Alfred to bring him the files. Out from the shadows steps a large man in an overcoat who asks him about the plan. Another man holding a mace walks out and puts his helmet on, revealing himself to be Hawkman. Bruce tells them the plan is simple as the man changes into his real form of the Martian Manhunter.

Issue 5
As Bruce, Hawkman and Martian Manhunter discuss in the Batcave what to do about the Super-Man; they bring up candidates for a new League of super heroes. Bruce tells him they'll begin their search in Star City. Back in Metropolis, Lex and Leo talk as Leo questions him about his attack on Mannheim. Lex tells him that some men need to be silenced in order to maintain the peace in the world. Leo is still skeptical but Luthor reminds him that it's what their father would have wanted. Leo agrees and he leaves the room. After he leaves Luthor pulls a piece of shrapnel from his desk that has a distinctive insignia on it (Brainiac's). As Super-Man observes the earth from the atmosphere he notices a large explosion in California. He flies past the speed of sound towards the light and sees a battle between Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Evil Star. As the two battle it out, flying between buildings and causing great destruction, Super-Man kills Evil Star with his heat vision. Green Lantern flies up to him kind of shocked but thanks him for helping him out. Super-Man punches him and sends him flying through a building, toppling it. He then tells him that Earth only needs one superhero and flies off.

Issue 6
At the Daily Planet Lois Lane researches her fiancée Luthor's past works. While she's looking up old news reports of him in Africa Leo shows up with glasses on to talk to her. She asks him if he killed those people and he tells her that Lex is doing everything for the good of everyone else. Lois isn't sure but tells Leo to be very careful with what he's doing. Super-Man hears a large bang and takes off at the speed of sound to investigate. In New York City Wonder Woman is having her first battle with the mad god Ares. Diana seems to be beating him back but Leo grabs her and flings her out of the way; he then turns on Ares and begins to fight with him. Super-Man fights with Ares and he ends up killing the god on live television. Wonder Woman goes to thank him for his help but he turns out of aggression and slams her into the Statue of Liberty, knocking it down. She breaks free from the rubble ready to fight but he is already gone. Super-Man is flying off worried about the repercussions of his actions. He flies by Lois' apartment and decides to stop by and see her. The two begin to talk and Lois asks Leo what he's going to do with his situation. Super-Man tells her that he never wanted to hurt anyone but he's never wanted to disappoint Lex. Lois tries to talk down but he begins to start crying in front of her not sure of what to do. The two continue talking and begin to kiss. Unbeknownst to them Lex is watching security footage of this from his own office; he then tells Mercy to get his jet prepped for him.

Issue 7
In a meeting in Star City at Queen Industries, Luthor is attempting to take over Oliver Queen's company. Queen's board members reveal to him that Luthor's offer is too big to turn down and they've sided with them. Queen goes into a rage and tells Luthor that he'll be sorry and he'll get what's coming to him. After Queen is escorted out of his own building by security he gets into his limo fuming to the chauffer. The man is revealed to be Bruce Wayne and he gives Queen an offer to join something much larger than his company. Back in Metropolis, Leo is making breakfast for Lois who is lying in bed. The two discuss the night before as Lois asks him if he'll stop working for his brother. Leo reveals that he still isn't sure of what to do as more news reports come on the screen of Super-Man and Ares' attack in New York City. Leo begins to get worried again but has no time to think as breaking news shows the screen of an attack on Metropolis. Super-Man gets dressed and flies off after the noise to see Metallo attacking downtown New York. When Super-Man tries to fight him he is blasted back by a shot of Kryptonite and is knocked down. Not sure of what he's experiencing Super-Man flees the fight with Metallo in order to avoid getting hurt again. Metallo proceeds to destroy several parts of downtown Metropolis and knocks down the Daily Planet with Perry White inside. Super-Man is cowering in fear during the attack in Lex's mansion, as his brother walks in to see him crumpled on the floor.

Issue 8
While Metallo continues his attack on Metropolis Lex tries to console his brother and get him to go back into the fight. Super-Man tries to tell Lex that he's never been hurt before and he didn't think he could face it again. Lex then goes into a tirade demanding to know why he would have an affair with Lois. Luthor then pulls a glove (containing the Brainiac tech) out of his desk and begins to beat Super-Man with it shouting tirades about all he's done for him and why he would betray him. Luthor then sets the glove down as Leo lies bleeding on the floor. Luthor looks back at the screen and sees a red blur racing towards Metallo. Metallo is caught of guard as the Flash comes in and starts to fight him. The Flash begins to explain to him how since the almighty "Super-Man" ran away scared someone needs to take of the super villains. Flash proceeds to defeat Metallo and save nearby onlookers from any danger. The people of Metropolis begin to rejoice as the Flash has saved them and start praising him for helping him. Back at his apartment Luthor begins to fume that now the people's trust in Super-Man has failed and he has lost Lois to him. Luthor puts the glove back on the beat Super-Man more but falls to the floor in pain. A technological wave flows over his body and he is overtaken by a robotic entity. Super-Man watches in horror as his brother is overtaken by Brainiac.

Issue 9
News reports flash across the screen as anchors question Super-Man's recent activities and begin to wonder how Luthor was connected to him. Lois also finally comes out with a story detailing the lives of Luthor and Super-Man as brothers. Luthor watches on in his lab and converses with Brainiac about what he plans to do. Brainiac reveals his trajectory was thrown off in the same asteroid storm that knocked Super-Man's rocket off course years ago. Brainiac reveals that he now has enough power built up to strike against Earth and assimilate all of its information. Brainiac plans on destroying the Earth and then continuing on in his assimilation of the universe's information. Luthor must go on with this as the two continue to watch footage of the heroes on TV. A press conference soon comes on screen showing the debut of the Justice League, consisting of Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, Green Lantern and Hawkman. Meanwhile Super-Man is being kept locked up in a cell located in Luthor's mansion. Brainiac decides the time is right and escapes his cell attacking the heroes. The heroes and Brainiac square off in the middle of Metropolis as the world watches on.

Issue 10
The Justice League and Brainiac begin to square off in the middle of Metropolis. The League acts as one to stop him but Brainiac counters every one of their moves and keeps them from stopping him. Lois watches on from the sidelines and decides to go get Super-Man from Lex's mansion. Brainiac launches Green Lantern out of orbit and breaks every one of Hawkman's bones in his body. Brainiac analyses Martian Manhunter's alien physiology and douses him in flames, burning him severely. As the Justice League think that all is lost Batman pulls out his final wildcard and calls in the Captain. A young boy steps out into the clearing and shouts out SHAZAM, which transforms him into Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel begins to clash with Brainiac and flies him deep into the heart of Metropolis. After a bit Brainiac finally knocks down Captain Marvel standing above him victoriously. People begin to wonder if anyone can stop Brainiac.

Issue 11
During the fight with Brainiac the Justice League takes it to him but still is unable to slow him down. During the battle Lois has rushed to Lex's mansion in order to free Leo from his cell. Getting past security Lois is able to free him but he refuses to fight his own brother. Lois tells him that it's Brainiac that's in charge, not Lex. Both Super-Man and Lois discuss everything that has happened in his life and how he only ever wanted to make his brother proud. Lois convinces him that the only way to redeem himself is to save his brother from Brainiac, which prompts him to take off after the robotic construct. Back in Suicide Slum Brainiac has beaten every single one of the Justice League and plans to take the fight to the rest of Earth. He is stopped, however, by Super-Man ready to fight him.

Issue 12
As Super-Man and Brainiac begin to fight, Super-Man gains an upper hand and begins to destabilize Brainiac's systems. Brainiac only saves himself by changing his face to that of Lex's, which stops Super-Man from killing him. Brainiac turns the tables on him and begins to rant about how Leo was always inferior to Lex, and the only reason that Lex let him tag along in life was because he had survived the crash when Lex killed his parents. Appalled to learn his brother had betrayed him Leo swings away at Brainiac until there is barely any left of him. Super-Man is about to strike the killing blow when Brainiac launches a kryptonite bullet through his heart, killing him. As Lex sheds the last pieces of Brainiac off of him he holds his brother in his arms as he dies. He then tells the police to take him away and confesses to the crimes he has committed. As the world celebrates the death of Brainiac, and the Justice League continues on in Super-Man's stead, Lex sits sobbing in his prison cell, having lost the only true friend he had ever had.
 
Well, here is my Black Panther synopsis I wrote up a couple of months ago. I wanted to make T'Challa cool and a character that I would actually want to read. I wanted to show how he considers himself a leader, not a superhero and how far he'll go to seek vengeance. I see each paragraph being an issue, so there'll be about 12 issues, a full year.

BLACK PANTHER

We start off by seeing the origin of T'CHALLA and the BLACK PANTHER. We see the various political troubles he is involved in (including STARK INTERNATIONAL trying to gain access to the VIBRANIUM). One night, THE HAND attack T'Challa and his wife, ORORO MUNROE/STORM in their home in WAKANDA. T'Challa manages to dispose the assassins, but not before Storm is mortally wounded. T'Challa vows revenge as Storm is placed in surgery.

It is not long before the X-MEN arrive. LOGAN/WOLVERINE and T'Challa argue – Logan says T'Challa should stay with his wife while Logan goes and seeks vengeance. T'Challa responds by snapping Logan's neck. EMMA FROST attempts to telepathically sedate him, but it doesn't work – T'Challa has "cerebral implants". He tells the X-Men to stay with their friend – he has work to do.

T'Challa arrives in TOKYO, home of The Hand, and immediately seeks KENUICHO HARADA/SILVER SAMURAI, who has dealt with the assassins before. T'Challa wants the Samurai's help in bringing down The Hand. Silver Samurai wants to know what is in it for him – T'Challa promises that the whole of Tokyo's underworld and the title of HAND WARLORD will be waiting for him.

T'Challa and Silver Samurai begin training to take out The Hand. One night, they begin their assault on The Hand's base of operations. The ninjas are no match for T'Challa's fury. The fight stretches across Tokyo, until eventually only one ninja remains. T'Challa offers to end him quickly if he tells him who hired the Hand to kill him. He mutters: "The man in iron…" and T'Challa cuts off his head. T'Challa swears and then prepares to leave. He gives Silver Samurai control over The Hand and Tokyo's underworld. Silver Samurai wants to know what is going on. T'Challa has figured it all out. With the nation's king and queen dead, Wakanda is ready for the taking. And that means access to unlimited Vibranium. Who wants Vibranium? TONY STARK… IRON MAN.

Tony Stark has been settling into his new role as DIRECTOR of SHIELD. Today is just a normal day… until he is told there is a rapidly approaching aircraft heading towards the HELICARRIER. Before Tony can ask what it is, he sees a Vibranium shoot past the window. The jet crashes into the Helicarrier deck, exploding instantly. In only a few seconds, half of the Helicarrier has been shut down, a dozen SHIELD agents are unconscious and Stark finds himself alone. He only just manages to put on his Iron Man suit before he comes face to face with the culprit: Black Panther. Iron Man asks what he's trying to do. T'Challa explains how he plans on kidnapping Stark and ensuring nobody ever sees him again. Iron Man asks how T'Challa expects to do this, and T'Challa responds with: "That's why I brought this." He activates a device and Iron Man's suit shuts down. T'Challa approaches Iron Man, determined to rip him out of the suit, and is struck from behind by MARIA HILL, wielding an electrical baton. Another blow to the head knocks T'Challa out.

Later on, Hill wants to know if Tony is going to thank her, but he quickly comments: "I would have handled it in another ten seconds." Tony and Hill head towards the detention facility. T'Challa is sitting in one of the cells. He explains that he knows Tony has been behind the attack on Wakanda because he wants the Vibranium. Tony agrees that he does want the metal, but that he'd never hurt a friend to get what he wants. T'Challa mocks: "Tell that to CAPTAIN AMERICA, or SPIDER-MAN, or the other dozen or so lives you've just ruined." Tony walks out and Hill tells T'Challa he's going to be there for a long time. He simply smiles and says: "We'll see."

The Helicarrier alarm goes off. They've been infiltrated again. Stark comments that they need better security then an explosion suddenly shakes the ship. Hill informs Stark: "Our prisoner has just left the building." Outside, the NEW AVENGERS, accompanied by T'Challa, escape from the Helicarrier.

At a New Avengers safe house, the various heroes discuss with T'Challa what's happened. It is not long before Iron Man along with the MIGHTY AVENGERS has tracked them down. He says the New Avengers are free to go if they hand over Black Panther, but T'Challa is willing to go freely. T'Challa and Iron Man talk and Stark has something to tell him – he hands him a phone. T'Challa is told it is from Wakanda and listens to the voice on the other end. "Hello, T'Challa. Do you know where your country is?"
"No… you…"
"That's right… DOOM."

There is a flashback to Doom invading Wakanda and defeating the few X-Men members that are looking after Storm.

T'Challa immediately wants to get to Wakanda, but Iron Man proposes a plan. He will temporarily suspend the SUPERHERO REGISTRATION ACT – allowing both Mighty Avengers and New Avengers to help Black Panther. Both teams begin formulating a plan to liberate Wakanda, while T'Challa goes to meet three allies. The first is NAMOR. T'Challa convinces Namor to help him, because Doom will come after Atlantis next. He also recruits the FANTASTIC FOUR. Finally, he contacts Silver Samurai – and becomes the first customer of the new Hand. The army is now ready – the war is about to begin.

The army penetrates the country, with different forces engaging DOOMBOTS all over the nation. Eventually, Black Panther breaks into his throne room. He engages Doom and quickly destroys him. It is merely another Doombot. The real villain reveals himself… ULYSSES KLAW… the new version.

Klaw has been angry at T'Challa's leadership and wishes to take over. The two fight, and T'Challa makes short work of Klaw. He refuses to kill him – "He deserves a fate worse than death." Stark offers to put him in T'Challa's old detention cell, since T'Challa won't be needed it anymore. Stark also reminds T'Challa that he is a superhero and will have to arrest him next time. T'Challa disagrees, claiming he is not a superhero, but a leader. After thanking Stark for his help, he tells him to get out of Wakanda – SHIELD have no rights here. T'Challa and the surviving Storm live happily ever after.

Epilogue: Hill and Stark watch footage of Klaw's cell and notice he is talking to himself. In reality, he is actually talking to the spectral form of the real mastermind – the real Doctor Doom. Doom is disappointed in Klaw – he gave him an army, plans for a sonic Vibranium weapon and opportunity to rule Wakanda – yet he still failed. Klaw pleads with Doom not to leave him there, and vows revenge not only on Wakanda, but LATVERIA as well.

There you go. It's quite Loebian (a bunch of characters showing up all over the place) but I like it. I wanted to write something I would read, as Black Panther has never really interested me, and I think I have. It also introduces a bunch of interesting relationships (some kind of alliance between T'Challa, Namor and Silver Samurai? A war between Wakanda/Atlantis/Latveria? SHIELD being an enemy to Wakanda?), creates a new version of Klaw, brings in the Doom/Vibranium subplot, which I could see spreading throughout the rest of the Marvel Universe and puts Silver Samurai, a character I think is pretty cool, in charge of The Hand, currently leaderless as Elektra is a Skrull or whatever.
 
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It's good.... a little too Bendisy for my tastes.

or I guess Loeby, but I didn't want to compare you to Loeb, because it actually sounds cool. It's just, it doesn't work for me as a Black Panther book.
 
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So, I just had a random ideas that I thought wastoo cool a set-up not to mention.

It's called The Bat Man of Santa Prisca and has Batman caught between a ruthless group of socialist guerilla freedom fighters generaled by a bat-themed vigilante and the drug traffickers and American corporations that essentially control the nation's economy. Oh, and he gets locked up in the dungeon of Santa Prisca's prison, which is like, Santa Prisca's version of Arkham and houses all the psychotic rogues of the island.
 
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Man, this thread still belongs to me. It's basically just my own personal scratch pad, isn't it?

I have an absolutely ginormous idea on simmer right now, grafted from a couple of prose ideas I'm working on. It's a head-to-toe revamp of the Moon Knight character. At the heart of it is a unified theory for all the theo-mythological characters over at Marvel. It would tie together everything from the Valhallan gods to Mon Knight's Egyptian patrons, all the way down to the totemic characters like Black Panther, Baron Voodoo, and Puma. It would also purge so much silliness from the mythic stable of characters (i.e. Zohar. a super villain who uses the Kaballah to fly and shoot laser beams. What the ****?). In short, it's cooler than anything you've ever seen on the printed page.

Truth.
 
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I read your ideas but don't have much to say about them. Needless to say, I would definitely read all of them.
 
I read your ideas but don't have much to say about them. Needless to say, I would definitely read all of them.

Thanks, man. Wait until you see the Moon Knight pitch (if I actually manage to write it down). It'll blow you away.

I could do for Moon Knight what Brubaker and Fraction did for Iron Fist.
 
Thanks, man. Wait until you see the Moon Knight pitch (if I actually manage to write it down). It'll blow you away.

I could do for Moon Knight what Brubaker and Fraction did for Iron Fist.

Sweet. Recently I've been thinking of doing a series like Oz/Prison Break but set in Ryker's Prison and featuring a bunch of villains.
 
Sweet. Recently I've been thinking of doing a series like Oz/Prison Break but set in Ryker's Prison and featuring a bunch of villains.

That's a pretty badass idea. It would give you an excuse to parade in whatever B or C list villains you wanted to, practically whenever you wanted. I dig the hell out of that premise.
 
That's a pretty badass idea. It would give you an excuse to parade in whatever B or C list villains you wanted to, practically whenever you wanted. I dig the hell out of that premise.

Yeah. I always love things where we see characters in a different light. Arkham Asylum, Devil in Cell Block D, this SuperMax idea... they're all very interesting. I also love it when you have a hero locked up with his villains. Maybe I just like prison stories. :D

Anyway, I'll try and work on it and actually get some ideas down.
 
Yeah. I always love things where we see characters in a different light. Arkham Asylum, Devil in Cell Block D, this SuperMax idea... they're all very interesting. I also love it when you have a hero locked up with his villains. Maybe I just like prison stories. :D

Anyway, I'll try and work on it and actually get some ideas down.

See, I think the "hero in prison" thing has been a little overdone recently. It's cool, but it would be nice to just see a straight up super villain prisoner story.

Edit: It might be cool if the guards actually utilized the confiscated gadgets of the criminals. Shocker gauntlets or vulture wings could be incredibly useful in prison guard duty.
 
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I wish I could keep pitch ideas in my head for longer than a half hour, I have alot of ideas, but never get around to jotting them down so i can expand on them. Genis-Vell pitch, Cloak & Dagger pitch, Shang-Chi pitch, Gambit pitch, etc, more or less name a character I've probably had a pitch in mind, the quality of said pitch I have no idea, but a pitch none the less.
 
See, I think the "hero in prison" thing has been a little overdone recently. It's cool, but it would be nice to just see a straight up super villain prisoner story.

Edit: It might be cool if the guards actually utilized the confiscated gadgets of the criminals. Shocker gauntlets or vulture wings could be incredibly useful in prison guard duty.

Oh yeah, I doubt I would put any heroes into the prison. I was just using the stories for inspiration as I liked the interaction. I want an extreme Ryker's Prison comic by Brubaker/Rucka/Lark. It would be awesome.

I could see the corrupt guards auctioning off the various weapons and gadgets they obtain. Or maybe The Owl puts a hundred dollars into a guard's pocket each week and gets a goblin bomb. Just little stuff like that seems interesting.
 
Oh yeah, I doubt I would put any heroes into the prison. I was just using the stories for inspiration as I liked the interaction. I want an extreme Ryker's Prison comic by Brubaker/Rucka/Lark. It would be awesome.

I could see the corrupt guards auctioning off the various weapons and gadgets they obtain. Or maybe The Owl puts a hundred dollars into a guard's pocket each week and gets a goblin bomb. Just little stuff like that seems interesting.

You know what would be cooler than using the Hood as the king of villains (lame)? The Hood as the king of the hill on Ryker's Island (awesome).
 
a couple of storylines runniing through my mind

the redemption of doomsday:
doomsday realised his destiny and full origin (he's the new god of life or better said he is the negated anti life equation given flesh) and comes to earth to become the succesor to superman.

the ballad of killer croc:
killer crocis released out of arkham after partial treatment of desease ( the doc's only success was to bring his brain back to averege human and stop his body degenerating further) .this is basicly a story about croc trying to gain a halfway normal life which ends him self remembered to his former life
( his ends up being a bouncer in the club of the pinguin, he pleads the caher in the grocery to take the money as the payment for the food he buys, vistation from batman etc.) in a humorous way
 
So, I just had a random ideas that I thought wastoo cool a set-up not to mention.

It's called The Bat Man of Santa Prisca and has Batman caught between a ruthless group of socialist guerilla freedom fighters generaled by a bat-themed vigilante and the drug traffickers and American corporations that essentially control the nation's economy. Oh, and he gets locked up in the dungeon of Santa Prisca's prison, which is like, Santa Prisca's version of Arkham and houses all the psychotic rogues of the island.

This actually sounds like an arc of Morrison's Batman. As I said in the Dreammovie thread, I think it's an awesome idea that Batman would take on the entire island of Santa Prisca. Also, Wayne being locked up in Pena Duro is great because heroes in prisons is still cool. This should also explore more of Bane's history.

Write it now. As fanfiction if you have to. I want to read it.
 
This actually sounds like an arc of Morrison's Batman. As I said in the Dreammovie thread, I think it's an awesome idea that Batman would take on the entire island of Santa Prisca. Also, Wayne being locked up in Pena Duro is great because heroes in prisons is still cool. This should also explore more of Bane's history.

Definitely. ;) I just think it would be fun to make a rogue's gallery for Santa Prisca in the same way that Gotham has its rogues.

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Write it now. As fanfiction if you have to. I want to read it.

Ew, fan fic....... I'll just wait until I take over Batman from Grant Morrison.

Wait. What?

Yeah. That's right.
 
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I had a quick little idea today. I recently read a horrible arc out of Jeph Loeb's run on Superman/Batman ("Vengeance") but the new throwaway characters reminded me a lot of what the original Squadron Supreme was like: Takes on the rival company created as a joking parody. The Maximums, as they were called, 'reflected' Marvel's avengers characters, Spider-man, and the big mutants (Wolverine). They swore and talked fake politics and made drama and moral dilemmas over nothing… Most of which, coincidentally, was not fixed when Loeb took over the Ultimates, featuring similar characters. Anyway.

(The arc ended with the Maximum's being revealed as a cosmic joke by none other than the Joker, who… for some reason was God).

For fun, I made a quick idea about how to try and make even the most abominable and dead-end characters something readable. The basics had Soldier (also known as Captain America) as the narrator and the only remaining Maximum. His teammates had all retired when they learned their world wasn't real and now spent their days doing whatever they wanted and using their powers to get their way. Soldier won't give in to treating his world like playdoh, because he doesn't look at it as the perfect religious disaster. Everyone else in on the origin of the 'world', however, finds it to be a mix of atheism (there is no afterlife for people created as an afterthought) and a terrible revelation that there is still a God, but he's a serial killer and lunatic who doesn't even remember he created a planet.

The ex-Maximums don't go crazy straight off, but as their feelings on things are validated by their own teammates they begin to go down a more and more terrible path of thought. Eventually, they go on a rampage and although confronted by Soldier (and a new team of lesser known marvel characters he recruited to stop them) he is rebuffed and crippled. The Maximums would have all been killed in Soldier's perfectly planned ambush, except that they have an ace in the hole: The Axis of Evil (or Master's of Evil). Demise is the only one not present. It is revealed that because he is a personification of Death, he has always known that the planet he lives in is a fabrication and that he has only really existed for a few days. This is why, paradoxically, he was a charter member of the Axis supervillain team in the backstory of the world before it was created, his ennui. Having worked his way around it, however, he hopes to keep the planet intact and salvage the heroic personalities of the Maximums, who are more integral than many would think. The first arc would end with Demise and Soldier teaming up to find a way to reign in the planet's self destruction while keeping the secret of it's creation hidden at any cost.

Obviously it's a bit of an ***-pull, but it would be good to hear initial impressions to see if I'm on the right track, or way off course and in need of an overhaul in thought process.
 
So, I had an idea for an Ultimate Dr. Strange book. It would have been awesome. He's a commentator on the superhero equivalent of the E! Network who's afraid of superhumans being used to establish a New World Order. His sanctum sanctorum is the Chelsea Hotel, which serves as a trans-dimensional nexus to various realms, and serves as an embassy and safehouse for the forgotten and persecuted of the city. And sometimes he helps out Elsa Bloodstone, a monster hunter who's the new host of a revival of Kraven's old TV show. But most of the ideas are going to be co-opted for a different project I'm working on. But I figured I'd post it to show you all how awesome I am. For now, here's some reworking of characters that would play a supporting role.

Eric Brooks is Blade, a cockney vigilante who hunts vampires and other demons. Investigating a demonic death cult in the late 70's or early 80's, the British paranormal agency A.X.E. interceded in their final, apocalyptic ceremony. Newborn infant Brooks was the only survivor. Or maybe the ritual involved 33 children being born (and maybe slaughtered afterwards) at the precisely same moment within the cult's sanctum, and the rest of the progeny are at the heart of the whole mystery - I'm not sure. But Brooks is raised in rough-and-tumble orphanages and now, a grown man, hunts the vampiric infestation that arose from the ceremony. He's just a mortal badass who relies on honed combat skills and ruthless infestation. But he probably masks himself in the guise of the supernatural to intimidate in battle - maybe specialty contact lenses or complicated eye tattoo surgery, filed fangs, skin grafts - real viking-style badassery.

Johnny Blaze is Ghost Rider, the Spirit of Vengeance, not so much a demonic or angelic entity as a vessel for the primordial concept of vengeance. There's not that mainstream schizophrenia where it's two minds occupying one body and wrestling with each other. Rather, it's a more gradated transition. In the presence of situations and individuals which are unjustly unbalanced, a rage builds in Johnny which has a super-physical manifestation. The larger the transgression and the more there is that needs revengenating, the more Ghost Riderly he gets, and when the need for revengencing gets really strong, it starts to affect a growing radius of the environment around him. So his trusted bike, or a souped up muscle car, or a bigass mac truck, or whatever vehicle he's in, twists itself into a devil machine; and worse, the whole environment around him twists and lashes out hostile at the subject of the Rider's wrath. The idea is that Blaze's Civil War ancestor was a Wild Bill Hickok style showman and stunt rider who led a sort of traveling carnival. When his Haitian wife is lynched at one of their stops, he goes blind with rage and makes a deal with the Shambling Man at the Crossroads. The cost is that his family line will house the embodiment of vengeance in their blood.

Ilyana Rasputin is Colossus' brother, a naive but clever Russian girl who came to America only to find herself caught in white slavery. She makes a deal with the Devil that allows her liberation on Earth, at the cost of spending half of each year as the Consort-Queen of the Underworld. Karmic law requires a Persephone figure, see, and she's perfect for the role. Through cunning, she slowly manages to bargain for more and more control of the Underworld while on Earth serving as a sort of guardian angel for the runaways and working girls of the city. She has to contend with the Devil's two ambitious children: Satana and Daimon Hellstrom.

Edit: Anyway. I forgot about that idea about the moment it entered my head.
 
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Come on, people.

Do something here.

It's been too long, and I love this kind of ****. Dreamteaming is fun enough, but it lacks a lot of the flexibility and creativity of, say the old Ultimization games or more broad threads like "Victorian Marvel". So come on folks. Surely you've got ideas rolling around.




I have a few ideas for indie books but I'm having a hell of a time getting script to paper. The front-runner right now is something called Sparrows. I have some snippets of dialogue and the like scribbled down here and there and a general idea for plot, but I've been too preoccupied to get down to the details and just start writing. The idea is that this Batman-style vigilante called the Saint was running the streets for a few decades, and over these years he went through a number of sidekicks called Sparrows. With him two years dead, his identity and those of his sidekicks have come to light, and they're now minor celebrities. And with the revelation that the Saint was an old money SOB beating the **** out of low income criminals, the city is spiraling into class warfare. And the former sidekicks, most long retired, are dealing with the fallout from their old boss' death, slowly uncovering the Saint's complex scheme of urban planning that goes far beyond vigilantism and involves all of them.

Hugh Whitticker was The Saint.
Gavin Blaycock, his first sidekick, is a finance lawyer in his mid-thirties, married, neurotic, chain smoking and alcoholic. He's left to deal with the audits and investigations surrounding Whitticker's corporation, which was basically a funnel, just pouring money into the man's private war on "crime". He feels very much like the last generation in a mafia family, constantly one step ahead of the investigators as he deftly works the numbers to legitimize the business. He has two children.
Vincent Grisham was the second, the black Sparrow, who, following a messy row with his boss, ended up as a detective for the blink of an eye, and then proceeded to open a PI office. He had sort of a Question vibe, Philip Marlowe as vigilante. He's also dead. Tragic.
Bobby Whitticker was the third, Hugh's adopted son, a roughneck red dog cop who secretly (but, well, it's a very open secret) moonlights in a mask as an urban bounty hunter on syndicated television. His ex-girlfriend has custody of his toddler daughter.
Clive Whitticker was the fourth, and still a sidekick when Hugh died. He's towards the end of his teens now, a heavy partying socialite who's living off of his adopted father's fortune and the attention of the paparazzo. He's the toast of the tabloids. With the Whitticker company and fortune under investigation, the lifestyle he's accustomed to living is in peril. But if things go bad, he could probably get a reality show contract. He's also taking care of his younger sister...
Denise Whitticker, the fifth, in action at the same time as Clive, a disaffected and sardonic teen and also Clive's little sister.

And there's also Valentine, the Saint's nemesis, serving life imprisonment, who would hold "courts of love" which would test the strength of romantic relationships (He's the Jigsaw Killer..... OF LOVE!), and his protege (but not really, at all) Nina Simoleon. There will also surely be a character called the Pygmy Tyrant which is a bird in the same genus as the sparrow. I'm not sure how or what purpose the character would serve, but the name is too hilarious not to use.
 
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Won't commit to anything but here's a title I like

Gambit
Life Comes Hard in the Big Easy

Intended as an evergreen out of continuity Gambit tale, that fuses some hard boiled Noir flavour and a touch of John Constantine in with, the kind of Gambit story last seen in Ultimate X-Men #13-14
 
Won't commit to anything but here's a title I like

Gambit
Life Comes Hard in the Big Easy

Intended as an evergreen out of continuity Gambit tale, that fuses some hard boiled Noir flavour and a touch of John Constantine in with, the kind of Gambit story last seen in Ultimate X-Men #13-14

I approve
 

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