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Is Lucifer set in pre-Crisis or post-Crisis

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moonholls

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Those are adaptations of the stories.

If Injustice was canon, than:
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Injustice 2
Superman ending for IvMotU
Injustice: Gods Among Us: Year One-Five
Injustice: Gods Among Us: Year One-Five Annuals
Injustice: Ground Zero
Injustice 2
Injustice vs Masters of the Universe
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I meant are there any games such as Superman Returns PS2 or Catwoman PS2 that are already canon to the Arrowverse
 

Dok95

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Pages 1-7 are set during the start of Part One, The Ray is actually saved just before Earth-X was destroyed:

Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One -> 00:00 - 01:59
Crisis on Infinite Earths Giant #1 -> Page 1-7
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One -> 02:00 - 41:33


Then they are teleported to the Waverider, so at least after they got it from Part Two.
The Flash says "Seems the Monitor needs this ship-- and us-- for something." so they don't know about Paragons yet.

Also, in the Paragons scene, the Monitor says:

"I enlisted the assistance of Felicity Smoak, who earned the wisdom of a second book."
So maybe the rest of the comics take place before this scene?

In this scene, the Monitor says that he has 4 hints about the Paragons:

- Supergirl is the Paragon of Hope
- Sara Lance is the Paragon of Destiny
- Hint for Paragon of Truth (which is revealed to be Superman from Earth-96)
- Hint for Paragon of Courage (mistakenly thought to be Batman from Earth-99)

He doesn't talk about the 3 other Paragons. It is Ray Palmer who finds that Batwoman is actually the Paragon of Courage, and finds the 3 other: Honor (Martian Manhunter), Love (Flash) and Humanity (Ryan Choi).

Sooo maybe the Crisis on Infinite Earths Giant serves to show how Felicity helped the Monitor to find the 4 Paragons, and so the entire comics take place before the Part Two scene when the Monitor explains the Paragons and reveals the 4 Paragons?

Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two -> 00:00 - 03:12
Crisis on Infinite Earths Giant #1 -> Page 7-24
Crisis on Infinite Earths Giant #2
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two -> 03:13 - 41:56
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Four
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Five


It is only my thoughts, maybe I'm wrong?
 

Pro Bot

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Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I meant are there any games such as Superman Returns PS2 or Catwoman PS2 that are already canon to the Arrowverse
Well, they're adaptations, so not really in my opinion.

However, a video game sequel to Green Lantern exists.
 

Treacleman

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Well this got pretty ridiculous pretty quickly. Massive kudos for keeping up with it all, Pro Bot, you've done a stellar job. Maybe next year's crossover won't be quite so sprawling? :')
 

Pro Bot

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Well this got pretty ridiculous pretty quickly. Massive kudos for keeping up with it all, Pro Bot, you've done a stellar job. Maybe next year's crossover won't be quite so sprawling? :')
Yeah, it'll most likely be Earth-Prime based, so only new episodes of currently canon shows. I don't see what they could really do with the multiverse now that they've finally established a complete DC universe.

Maybe a Crime Sindicate/Justice Lords crossover, but it's not going to expand the timeline other than adding new episodes.
 

Pro Bot

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Seeing as Green Lantern was created in the new multiverse, it's been placed after Crisis on Infinite Earths, since it wasn't in existence before.

Because Doom Patrol references Titans, I've decided that the new multiverse simply separated them. Makes the most sense to me.
 
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Dok95

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Seeing as Green Lantern was created in the new multiverse, it's been placed after Crisis on Infinite Earths, since it wasn't in existence before.
Wait I thought Earth-12 was the new TV series Green Lantern? It is that bad movie? :(
 

Pro Bot

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Wait I thought Earth-12 was the new TV series Green Lantern? It is that bad movie? :(
Yes. People saying it's the tv show have no evidence, the only source that they have to support them said it's the first footage of the new show, which is false. It uses clips from the film.
 

Dok95

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Why Smallville's Earth-167 is in the New Multiverse? It wasn't referenced in that scene in Part 5 with Oliver narrating...
 

Pro Bot

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Why Smallville's Earth-167 is in the New Multiverse? It wasn't referenced in that scene in Part 5 with Oliver narrating...
"I absolutely can confirm that they’re still alive, they’re still living their happy ending. Clark is getting the hero’s ending he deserves."
 

Dok95

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"I absolutely can confirm that they’re still alive, they’re still living their happy ending. Clark is getting the hero’s ending he deserves."
Nice, I love the last sentence in the quote!

But just a question, now there's a new Multiverse including currently airing TV shows, CW (The Flash, Supergirl, Batwoman, Smallville...) or not (the 3 DC Universe shows, all in different realities), but all the other Earths, are they all gone?

I mean, two of them (Lucifer and DCEU) are currently airing/releasing movies, so how is it possible?
Also, it would be very not cool for other Earths (Batman 89, Batman 66, The Flash 90 (that one is destroyed since 2018 Elseworlds... :( )
 

Pro Bot

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Nice, I love the last sentence in the quote!

But just a question, now there's a new Multiverse including currently airing TV shows, CW (The Flash, Supergirl, Batwoman, Smallville...) or not (the 3 DC Universe shows, all in different realities), but all the other Earths, are they all gone?

I mean, two of them (Lucifer and DCEU) are currently airing/releasing movies, so how is it possible?
Also, it would be very not cool for other Earths (Batman 89, Batman 66, The Flash 90 (that one is destroyed since 2018 Elseworlds... :( )
The old ones are probably around, but I can't really include them because it's not confirmed. Maybe the Batman '66 Meets Wonder Woman '77 crossover is apart of a merged earth between those.

Pahaps that's how they'll explain errors in Wonder Woman 1984 and The Batman.
 

Dok95

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The old ones are probably around, but I can't really include them because it's not confirmed.
And what about Lucifer? :(

Pahaps that's how they'll explain errors in Wonder Woman 1984 and The Batman.
You mean that, like in Part 5 when heroes in Earth-1 Earth-Prime (Supergirl) will wake up and notice that some things has changed (Luthor being a "good man", 3 Earths being merging into one, Superman having two sons...).

In this case: Batman, Gordon Alfred (and maybe Superman, if he is recast (which would be a shame, Cavill is very great...)) will all have a new face? :p
And what is the continuity error of Wonder Woman 1984?

So the DCEU will be a part of the New Multiverse and hasn't been destroyed?
 

Pro Bot

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And what is the continuity error of Wonder Woman 1984?
Wonder Woman supposedly hasn't been active since WW1 yet shes not very subtle in the new film. It's not impossible to fit in continuity, but Crisis would be a good explanation.

Pre-Crisis
Wonder Woman
Man of Steel
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition
Suicide Squad: Extended Cut
Justice League
Aquaman
Shazam!
Crisis on Infinite Earths

Post-Crisis
Black Adam
Wonder Woman 1984
The Batman
Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)
Shazam! 2
The Flash
Aquaman

That's how I figure it. The films in the pre-crisis universe happened slightly differently post-crisis. Wonder Woman mostly happened, Aquaman mostly happened, Shazam! mostly happened, etc.. It's a reboot but you'd still have to watch all 7 pre-crisis films and Crisis to fully get it.

They'll probably ignore it and make The Flash be the semi-reboot.
 

Dok95

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I see, nice! So the Earth-DCEU will be part of the New Multiverse?

Last question (promised :p): is Lucifer's Earth-666 still destroyed after Crisis or not? :(
 

Pro Bot

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I see, nice! So the Earth-DCEU will be part of the New Multiverse?

Last question (promised :p): is Lucifer's Earth-666 still destroyed after Crisis or not? :(
We still don't know if the DCEU is part of the new multiverse, but I'm betting they count it.

I don't know, but it's probably still around in some capacity.
 

SexySnorlax

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I know it's a matter of interpretation, but to me Earth-76's Wonder Woman is very clearly not Lynda Carter's. She doesn't wear the same costume, she suits up using her lasso instead of the iconic spin and she can fly. Despite the small continuity errors in the 66/77 crossover comic, I'm putting the 70s show on Earth-66.
 

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