DC Extended Universe / DC Universe - Timeline

[Pro Bot]

Don't be cringe.

Pfffft... spoilsport.

 

[selfishmisery]

I didn't even see what Bold and Brash said in regards to the Wiki.

Thankfully I can now afford my medication.

 

[selfishmisery]

 

[selfishmisery]

I'm trying to be silent in the midst of recent chaos, but I will say there are some deep heavy spoilers being leaked out from the set right now...be careful.

 

[BB10]

I bet if you asked Gunn if the comic and novel were canon, he'd say the same thing. He's just like this, we know that.

I think DCU tie-in material should not be assumed canon unless explicitly told it is. It seems this is how James Gunn operates and he is basically DCU's Kevin Feige.

I guess that Superman dog biscuit advertisement comic is non-canon as well.

 

[BB10]

If something is advertised as an "official prequel", its probably safe to assume it is canon though.

 

[Pro Bot]

I think DCU tie-in material should not be assumed canon unless explicitly told it is. It seems this is how James Gunn operates and he is basically DCU's Kevin Feige.

I guess that Superman dog biscuit advertisement comic is non-canon as well.

That dog biscuit comic wasn't important in any way whatsoever to the plot of Superman, too. If Krypto Saves the Day! isn't included on the basis that it has no importance, then that comic shouldn't be either.

 

[stphylcccs]

That dog biscuit comic wasn't important in any way whatsoever to the plot of Superman, too. If Krypto Saves the Day! isn't included on the basis that it has no importance, then that comic shouldn't be either.

There's no proof Gunn actually sees "canon" as "important". His beliefs on what counts as canon could just be a lot stricter than most

 

[Pro Bot]

Selfishmisery believes that the novel should be on the timeline because it's more important despite Gunn stating that no comics or novels are canon, referring to that one directly.

 

[stphylcccs]

Selfishmisery believes that the novel should be on the timeline because it's more important despite Gunn said no comics or novels are canon, referring to that one directly.

The novel is advertised as an official prequel, whereas Krypto is just Tom and Jerry-esque antics (from what I've gathered from explanations). Though, let's not start this argument up again… it's surprisingly controversial

 

[BB10]

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I told you.

Damn so this confirms it.

 

[stphylcccs]

Damn so this confirms it.

Yeah, Gunn did say it isn't canon. Though, I'd say it was made with the intention of being canon, so unless something directly contradicts it, it should be safe to stay on the timeline

 

[Pro Bot]

There's no proof Gunn actually sees "canon" as "important". His beliefs on what counts as canon could just be a lot stricter than most

Maybe.

https://www.cbr.com/james-gunn-marvel-differing-views-i-am-groot-mcu-canon/1. I Am Groot sets itself in the MCU.
2. I Am Groot has no contradictions to the MCU.
3. Gunn can't see the series as canon because... I guess we don't know. Probably because it's silly, unimportant shorts. We don't know why.

 

[stphylcccs]

Maybe.

https://www.cbr.com/james-gunn-marvel-differing-views-i-am-groot-mcu-canon/1. I Am Groot sets itself in the MCU.
2. I Am Groot has no contradictions to the MCU.
3. Gunn can't see the series as canon because... I guess we don't know. Probably because it's silly, unimportant shorts. We don't know why.

Everyone and everything else with the power to confirm/deny its canonicity pretty much confirms it is canon though. Until we have something like an official timeline (like the D+ MCU watch order) I'd say following the stricter rules are usually the more logical way to go.

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah, Gunn did say it isn't canon. Though, I'd say it was made with the intention of being canon, so unless something directly contradicts it, it should be safe to stay on the timeline

I would say the same about the comic and animated shorts too, especially since Gunn outright said that the shorts are in the same universe before very explicitly. That implies that it was made to be canon.

https://www.techradar.com/streaming...s-what-i-expected-for-the-dc-comic-book-movie

"I think it's exciting to be able to tell different stories for different groups of people. So, you know, Superman was for everyone. Peacemaker is for an adult audience. Supergirl will be for everyone. We have the Krypto shorts that are for children. Then, we have Clayface, which is an R-rated horror film. So, I really like the idea of telling truly different tales within a singular universe."

 

[Pro Bot]

But we're just going to go around in circles discussing that, so it's whatever.

 

[stphylcccs]

I'd say the best solution would be to add them with a "maybe canon" citation, but at the end of the day it's Selfish Misery's choice

 

[Pro Bot]

Even list them somewhere else, perhaps. That could work... then on a viewing order give them a distinctive canonicity marker.

 

[stphylcccs]

Even least them somewhere else, perhaps. That could work... then on a viewing order give them a distinctive canonicity marker.

I'd say it'd be better for the "Non-DCAU Animated Universes" thread (not sure if it's already been added)

 

[selfishmisery]

I may or may not add it. Doped up on Zoloft right now.

 

[selfishmisery]

Supergirl film takes place during/after Kara's birthday. I think that's been stated multiple times, and Kara's birthday I believe has been acknowledged by Gunn and/or DC as September 22nd (weirdly the same day The Flash movie in the DCEU took place in present day)

 

[woodlark_289]

I didn't even see what Bold and Brash said in regards to the Wiki.

 

[selfishmisery]

Clayface is set before in a period before Dick Grayson becomes Robin.

https://www.threads.com/@dcuprimetv...N-9e38WPhCwiWK-KxbGj4XlDI6KYZA3vAbcNCg&slof=1

 

[Pro Bot]

Could be an old poster. That kind of thing is seen in the Arkham games and they're set many years later... but it could also be before too, so helpful information.

 

[Rojinn]

If the Deathstroke graphic novel based on the unreleased movie's script ever releases (I'm still waiting for it...), could it be DCEU?

 

[selfishmisery]

If the Deathstroke graphic novel based on the unreleased movie's script ever releases (I'm still waiting for it...), could it be DCEU?

....what?

What is that?

 

[woodlark_289]

....what?

What is that?

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/joe-manganiello-and-jim-lee-no-longer-on-a-deathstroke-origin-comic/

 

[Rojinn]

....what?

What is that?

There were reports that Joe Manganiello had a script written for his DCEU Deathstroke, and after James Gunn told him to let it and the character go, he had talks to turn it into a graphic novel. All that was a few years ago though

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah, I'd say it'd count. I wouldn't mind DCEU continuation comics.

 

[selfishmisery]

Yeah, I'd say it'd count. I wouldn't mind DCEU continuation comics.

Peacemaker Presents technically is one.

And technically, despite what DC fans will argue, none of the live-action continuities are dead forever either. They can always be acknowledged again via cameo or a comic book continuation.