Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (continued)

Arrowhead

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Having a head canon is fine.
Sorry but isn't he technically correct. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Cinematic Multiverse and Comic Multiverse are cosmically separate in the Megaverse wouldn't it be Earth-616 according to its Multiverse and Earth-199999 according to the Megaverse?
 

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It is if you only watch the movies/ TV and don't care about the comics, like me.
From what I understand yes and no? Like you are right as it clearly has a recognized designation applying it to the Cinematic Multiverse as Earth-616 confirmed by both the TVA and Illuminati. However it also does still serve as Earth-199999 within the Comic Multiverse. It depends on what media you're enjoying, if you're just watching the Cinematic stuff like you said then yeah it's designation in the Comic Multiverse is fairly irrelevant, but if you're reading the comics it's designation as Earth-199999 is what's relevant.
 

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I still disagree with Black Widow Post-Credits Scene. Even if it's supposed to be canon, it just doesn't make any sense to me being where it's at currently. I still feel it could have been in early 2024 and make sense.
What is the reasoning for it being where it is in the timeline? I agree with you and feel it fits better closer to when Yelena "wakes up" and goes to the cemetery for the first time.
 

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What is the reasoning for it being where it is in the timeline? I agree with you and feel it fits better closer to when Yelena "wakes up" and goes to the cemetery for the first time.
Do we know it's her first visit to the cemetery? She'd also have to have met Val sometime between scenes unless she knew her before the Snap which does allow for some time to have passed.
 

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Do we know it's her first visit to the cemetery? She'd also have to have met Val sometime between scenes unless she knew her before the Snap which does allow for some time to have passed.
I feel like it's implied she's been there many times before. I just know the weather in Ohio is clearly early spring, so probably April 2024.
 

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Do we know it's her first visit to the cemetery? She'd also have to have met Val sometime between scenes unless she knew her before the Snap which does allow for some time to have passed.
Is there any documentation or evidence pointing to where the scene takes place? I'd think that Val is a pretty "new" character l, judging by her scene in Falcon. It doesn't seem like she's had the job very long.
 

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Is there any documentation or evidence pointing to where the scene takes place? I'd think that Val is a pretty "new" character l, judging by her scene in Falcon. It doesn't seem like she's had the job very long.
I am pretty confident that this was intended to be Val's introduction and is meant to take place before TFATWS.
 

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Sure, but same with Spidey/ Strange. Weren't those two supposed to be reversed as well? Clearly they reconned that in the Strange movie. I think the same thing happened with Falcon and Widow. There is an actual introduction in Falcon ("Hi, I'm Val. I used to date Coulson..." something like that...). But not in Widow. I think it was reconned for the Falcon scene to come first.

Though now I may be contradicting myself, because I don't remember when Falcon takes place.
 

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Sure, but same with Spidey/ Strange. Weren't those two supposed to be reversed as well? Clearly they reconned that in the Strange movie. I think the same thing happened with Falcon and Widow. There is an actual introduction in Falcon ("Hi, I'm Val. I used to date Coulson..." something like that...). But not in Widow. I think it was reconned for the Falcon scene to come first.

Though now I may be contradicting myself, because I don't remember when Falcon takes place.
They may have changed some dialogue to make FatWS be her introduction to the MCU sure but that doesn't necessarily mean the timeline placement of the two scenes were changed.

FatWS takes place 6 months after Endgame if I'm not mistaken
 

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The Director of Hawkeye cleared it up for us placement wise as she said that Yelena appears in New York right after meeting Val at Nat's grave. that coupled with the holiday line in the post credit scene and a deleted clip with a snippet of dialogue found in the black widow bts stuff has val alluding to it being xmas as she hands yelena the tablet with a pic of clint on it and says something along the lines of "merry christmas, wheres my gift"
 

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The Director of Hawkeye cleared it up for us placement wise as she said that Yelena appears in New York right after meeting Val at Nat's grave. that coupled with the holiday line in the post credit scene and a deleted clip with a snippet of dialogue found in the black widow bts stuff has val alluding to it being xmas as she hands yelena the tablet with a pic of clint on it and says something along the lines of "merry christmas, wheres my gift"
Perhaps it was deleted for a reason? Doesn't match up.
 

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Personally, I think if there is no other evidence the directors viewpoint should take paramount.

Also, it s winter where I am and we are still having sunny days with people walking around in t-shirts. Climate change is a hell of a drug
 

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Personally, I think if there is no other evidence the directors viewpoint should take paramount.

Also, it s winter where I am and we are still having sunny days with people walking around in t-shirts. Climate change is a hell of a drug
Likewise it's supposed to be Summer soon here and there's still snow everywhere here.
 

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Don’t worry before she appeared in Hawkeye, I too thought a Early 2024 was the best place for it but more evidence to the contrary has changed my opinion
 

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I know it's off topic, but not sure where else to post. I've created a "Toy Story" (in anticipation for "Lightyear") and an "Avatar" (since it's on everyone's minds now) viewing order if anyone is interested. We can start a thread with timestamps if someone wants to on any of these.

Toy Story timeline

Avatar Timeline
Okay so for the Toy Story timeline you have the “Buzz Lightyear of Star Command Adventure Begins” written down as a tv show but it’s a movie. Now there is a Buzz Lightyear tv show just called “Buzz Lightyear of Star Command”.
 

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I still disagree with Black Widow Post-Credits Scene. Even if it's supposed to be canon, it just doesn't make any sense to me being where it's at currently. I still feel it could have been in early 2024 and make sense.
Honestly I place it right after FATWS. It seems the most logical spot to be place right now.
 
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