The thing is we’re infallible too. As someone who’s leaned toward placements Marvel Studios seems to be confirming (Moon Knight and Love & Thunder being 2025) there’s logic behind what they’ve come up with. Like I mentioned even with stuff like Iron Man 3 you can see where they’re coming from. The thing is some projects have conflicting information and either way there’s contradiction. To me this book just shows which information Marvel Studios themselves chooses to go with.
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He wants someone else to start a new thread and continue, not himself.
I’ve always believe Groot’s growth patterns are sporadic and there doesn’t necessarily need to be an explanation on his look being different by the time of the Holiday Special. Vol 3. shows him go full “Kaiju” on the High Evolutionary’s planet in no time.
Are you saying we are infallible? Cause we aren't. This isnt a debate about who's more fallible because at the end of the day it will always be us. We aren't the creators, we are not the final say, we work with what we have to deliver the best timelines. We're just better at catching small shit but small details don't mean we're right, it just means they missed it. But when two placements work and we think one thing and Marvel Studios says the other, they're correct. As Rman says, we can largely see where they're coming from with these placements and as long as there's more than one possible answer and we can see where they're coming from then they're the right ones
I don't think so, but it is more likely Love and Thunder went off of Groot's last seen appearance and not what he was gonna look like the next year. With so many projects releasing at this pace shit gets overlooked and missed. Again these are films, not real life, inconsistencies happen and trying to force every inconsistency into working will lead to more complications later on. If Marvel Studios says it's Fall 2025 there's probably a reason and it's definitely what they'll be using for Thor's next appearance or whatever film references the events of the movie. I gotta be honest LaT placement is absolutely the one I have the most issues with changing, but trying to base our timeline off the growing logic of an alien creature with no reference for how he grows vs. What the actual film studio says may work for us now but not in the long run. Tbf tho if there's any placement I think makes the least sense it's definitely this one
I mean, the book references the Guardians after the Ms. Marvel pages, so it probably will put all of the film (except a bit with Jane and Darcy) after Ms. Marvel
Quick question, will those things be included?
Captain Marvel: StarForce Mission Log
Shang-Chi: Who Guards My Sleep?
Black Panther: The Courage to Dream
Classified S.H.I.E.L.D. Files (Link)
Jessica Jones: Phone Etiquette (Link)
Iron Fist Season 2 - Date Announcement (Link)
Memories (Link)
Leaving It All in the Past (Link)
Sequoia's Instagram Story (Link)
Jennifer Walters' Phone Call Recording (Link)
And that might be a bit too much, but what about:
New York Bulletin Website
Other Promo Newspapers
The Twitter/Google+/Instagram Posts (WHiH World News, Darren Cross, Pym Technologies, Titania, AvengerCon, DailyBugle)
Daily Bugle Articles
Captain Marvel: StarForce Mission Log
Shang-Chi: Who Guards My Sleep?
Black Panther: The Courage to Dream
Classified S.H.I.E.L.D. Files (Link)
Jessica Jones: Phone Etiquette (Link)
Iron Fist Season 2 - Date Announcement (Link)
Memories (Link)
Leaving It All in the Past (Link)
Sequoia's Instagram Story (Link)
Jennifer Walters' Phone Call Recording (Link)
And that might be a bit too much, but what about:
New York Bulletin Website
Other Promo Newspapers
The Twitter/Google+/Instagram Posts (WHiH World News, Darren Cross, Pym Technologies, Titania, AvengerCon, DailyBugle)
Daily Bugle Articles
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This makes me feel better:
"I was obsessively taking notes and pausing constantly to hunt for obscure dates on computer screens and newspapers"
This hit a little close to home lol.
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i also would be open to continuing the timeline in a new thread if Dego is unable or changes their mind, not a competition or anything lol just wanting to give you a couple open options, i had been following dirishb’s work since 2014 and that really is what drew me into the mcu fandom as a whole in the first place so i would love to continue the integrity of the work done by him and you as well here lebnyx, in fact the timeline and this thread in particular is a massive part of why i am still watching new mcu releases so thank you for everything and much luck in your future
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Apparently this is where Kang went at the end of Ant-Man 3:
marvel.fandom.com
Shrunk down to the point where he would be in suspended animation until eventually ceasing to exist.
I think we were supposed to look at "Kang" as a group threat rather than an individual one. The fact it took everything Ant-Man's team had to stop one, sets up the threat of how the Avengers would fair against 10s of 1000s of Kangs.
Underspace
The Underspace is a dimension located below the Microverse that is the polar opposite of the Overspace. It is where Hank Pym built a new headquarters for his Avengers team, the Infinite Avengers Mansion. Losing her will to live for being betrayed by both her father (the Collector) and her lover...
Shrunk down to the point where he would be in suspended animation until eventually ceasing to exist.
I think we were supposed to look at "Kang" as a group threat rather than an individual one. The fact it took everything Ant-Man's team had to stop one, sets up the threat of how the Avengers would fair against 10s of 1000s of Kangs.
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What is the complete list of tie-in books btw?
Marvel Cinematic Universe
The Marvel Cinematic Universe or the MCU is a media franchise created by Marvel Studios and set primarily in a shared universe, with some installments also set in adjacent or branching realities. Starting with Iron Man, the franchise is comprised mainly of films independently made by Marvel...
Under "Inspired Content" there's a fairly complete list of books and comics, idk if there's a more thorough place to look but this is a solid start
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It's not complete though. The Wiki has posts discussing which books are canon, These are good (Thry are acbit older, so just add The Courage to Dream and Who Guards My Sleep, they are 100% canon)Marvel Cinematic Universe
The Marvel Cinematic Universe or the MCU is a media franchise created by Marvel Studios and set primarily in a shared universe, with some installments also set in adjacent or branching realities. Starting with Iron Man, the franchise is comprised mainly of films independently made by Marvel...marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com
Under "Inspired Content" there's a fairly complete list of books and comics, idk if there's a more thorough place to look but this is a solid start
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Must we start a new thread? Can't edit permissions be granted to others?
I would think so. It was a bit different situation with DirishB, sadly.
With the timeline book seeming to confirm Love & Thunder in October 2025, I'm curious what the consensus around here is now. The two main issues people have with this placement are Groot's age and the 8 years since the breakup line, but I think both can still work.
1). Groot is a fictional being with sporadic growth (we see him go Kaiju in no time on Counter-Earth in Vol 3. ). So, the growth he would do in the 2 months between Love & Thunder and the Holiday Special doesn't really bother me much.
2). I've always felt as long as the breakup was pre-Ragnarok, the 8 Years 7 Months, and 6 days was fine in 2025. October 2025 would place the breakup around March 2017 and given the movie shows the montage of Thor going on and off-world during the relationship, I think it's feasible for him and Jane to keep up a long-distance relationship while he was searching for Infinity Stones and it took until then for it to come to a head. Plus it kinda makes sense why the woman in New York in Ragnarok would bring it up in November 2017, as it's fresher if it happened in March 2017 than it would be in 2015. I think the 8-year line may have come from them looking at Ragnarok being 8 years ago in Universe and deciding to place it closer to it than Age of Ultron.
Apparently, there's a cut montage of Jane showing her between when she gets her powers and the main events of the film. She also mentions that she first found out she had cancer 6 months prior. If the main events of the movie were in October, this would mean she found out in April, fitting with the 4/30 blood test. If the consensus here isn't open to October 2025, I still feel like October 2024 is a good middle ground for the movie's main events. Keeping the 6 months that Marvel Studios believes is between Jane's blood test and the main events of the movie and placing it closer to what the timeline book shows.
Not saying any changes should be made, just curious about what people's thoughts are.
1). Groot is a fictional being with sporadic growth (we see him go Kaiju in no time on Counter-Earth in Vol 3. ). So, the growth he would do in the 2 months between Love & Thunder and the Holiday Special doesn't really bother me much.
2). I've always felt as long as the breakup was pre-Ragnarok, the 8 Years 7 Months, and 6 days was fine in 2025. October 2025 would place the breakup around March 2017 and given the movie shows the montage of Thor going on and off-world during the relationship, I think it's feasible for him and Jane to keep up a long-distance relationship while he was searching for Infinity Stones and it took until then for it to come to a head. Plus it kinda makes sense why the woman in New York in Ragnarok would bring it up in November 2017, as it's fresher if it happened in March 2017 than it would be in 2015. I think the 8-year line may have come from them looking at Ragnarok being 8 years ago in Universe and deciding to place it closer to it than Age of Ultron.
Apparently, there's a cut montage of Jane showing her between when she gets her powers and the main events of the film. She also mentions that she first found out she had cancer 6 months prior. If the main events of the movie were in October, this would mean she found out in April, fitting with the 4/30 blood test. If the consensus here isn't open to October 2025, I still feel like October 2024 is a good middle ground for the movie's main events. Keeping the 6 months that Marvel Studios believes is between Jane's blood test and the main events of the movie and placing it closer to what the timeline book shows.
Not saying any changes should be made, just curious about what people's thoughts are.
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