Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[JudgeDreddpool]

@SoyaCS you were right all along.

 

[Slyonic]

@SoyaCS you were right all along.

Just because it's not MCU Wanda does not mean the comic isn't canon, though.

 

[Pro Bot]

I didn't expect it to literally be Earth-199999's Wanda anyway.

 

[woodlark_289]

I didn't expect it to literally be Earth-199999's Wanda anyway.

yea exactly no way fiege ok's this with actual movie wandas story playing out in a tie in comic lol

 

[selfishmisery]

yea exactly no way fiege ok's this with actual movie wandas story playing out in a tie in comic lol

Backstory for how she could be back but left somewhat vague in the films was my instinct.

 

[BabyBomber]

 

[BabyBomber]

All my opps, know this…I'm performing a ritual so that I'll come out of this with a win

 

[woodlark_289]

Spoiler: Doomsday

 

[woodlark_289]

this take could also explain how they are "recanonizing" things that are already canon like the netflix series

 

[SoyaCS]

Just because it's not MCU Wanda does not mean the comic isn't canon, though.

The comic creators don't seem to think of it as canon

 

[SoyaCS]

this take could also explain how they are "recanonizing" things that are already canon like the netflix series

Explain

 

[Slyonic]

The comic creators don't seem to think of it as canon

I haven't seen any quotes of that?

 

[SoyaCS]

I haven't seen any quotes of that?

I might be missing a few sources but if you watch the "A bit of everything" video sourced above, he goes through some of them.

 

[Slyonic]

I might be missing a few sources but if you watch the "A bit of everything" video sourced above, he goes through some of them.

Oh, I haven't seen the video yet. Will watch later

 

[woodlark_289]

Explain

what i meant is if the original 199999 timeline which includes everything from iron man to endgame, including all of marvel television (agents of shield etc) exists simultaneously with the "616" branch that the mcu considers canon (everything on the disney+ sacred timeline) then it makes sense, to me at least, how they can now go back and add in things as they become relevant, as they did with the defenders saga, to new projects that come out post-loki

 

[SoyaCS]

what i meant is if the original 199999 timeline which includes everything from iron man to endgame, including all of marvel television (agents of shield etc) exists simultaneously with the "616" branch that the mcu considers canon (everything on the disney+ sacred timeline) then it makes sense, to me at least, how they can now go back and add in things as they become relevant, as they did with the defenders saga, to new projects that come out post-loki

I don't think that's what the theory was saying. MCU Earth 616 has always been the original timeline.

A bit of Everything was saying that there could also be another universe that exists within the comics multiverse that's very similar to 616 but not quite. Aka Earth 199999.

 

[Megatron]

I don't think that's what the theory was saying. MCU Earth 616 has always been the original timeline.

A bit of Everything was saying that there could also be another universe that exists within the comics multiverse that's very similar to 616 but not quite. Aka Earth 199999.

personally I think that they're the same earth, but with different designations.

Like for Earth-838 the MCU is Earth-616.

For Earth-616 the MCU is Earth-199999.

Simple as that. As to me at least sounds stupid that we have 2 earths that are almost the same, without any major difference.

 

[SoyaCS]

personally I think that they're the same earth, but with different designations.

Like for Earth-838 the MCU is Earth-616.

For Earth-616 the MCU is Earth-199999.

Simple as that. As to me at least sounds stupid that we have 2 earths that are almost the same, without any major difference.

That's what I always assumed. I was just explaining the new theory.

 

[selfishmisery]

We GOTTA see them meet in Secret Wars or in the MCU at some point.
("But Wanda's dead-" for now.)



I still think "worst Wolverine" from DP&W is from The Gifted universe.

 

[Megatron]

We GOTTA see them meet in Secret Wars or in the MCU at some point.
("But Wanda's dead-" for now.)
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I still think "worst Wolverine" from DP&W is from The Gifted universe.

Wait a sec, Lorna in the gifted Is played by the same actress Who plays Peige in Charmed?

 

[Dego Strange]

Wait a sec, Lorna in the gifted Is played by the same actress Who plays Peige in Charmed?

no

 

[ScottishRyzo]

personally I think that they're the same earth, but with different designations.

Like for Earth-838 the MCU is Earth-616.

For Earth-616 the MCU is Earth-199999.

Simple as that. As to me at least sounds stupid that we have 2 earths that are almost the same, without any major difference.

It's not dissimilar to every DC earth thinking they're/or should be Earth One

 

[selfishmisery]

There are Vision and F4 leaks that came out too that I can't post obviously.

 

[SoyaCS]

Where did the Doomsday concept art come from? How do we know it's official?

 

[selfishmisery]

Where did the Doomsday concept art come from? How do we know it's official?

One of the long-standing concept artists for Marvel Studios apparently had it on her website, which is now gone now. I can't remember the website name.

 

[woodlark_289]

Where did the Doomsday concept art come from? How do we know it's official?

Spoiler: spoilers

https://thedisinsider.com/2025/03/0...k-at-vision-quest-avengers-doomsday-and-more/

 

[marioxb]

I didn't see Venom: The Last Dance until last night. Was there any talk about the opening scene? (No Way Home bar scene). Looks to me that it was meant to be the same scene, just without the mention of MCU hero names (and skinny dipping). In NWH, you only see the flash of Eddie disappearing from the bartender's perspective, and in TLD, you see the actual portal, which could have been the same portal in NWH. Also, TLD cuts away before the symbiote piece is left on the bar in MCU-verse. So it appears that it happens in both universes. Shouldn't (parts of) the scene be on this timeline as well? I didn't notice it.

 

[Pro Bot]

When I get The Last Dance on blu-ray (or if anyone else wants to cover it), I'll post that scene in isolation here so it can be placed if you'd like.

 

[woodlark_289]

I didn't see Venom: The Last Dance until last night. Was there any talk about the opening scene? (No Way Home bar scene). Looks to me that it was meant to be the same scene, just without the mention of MCU hero names (and skinny dipping). In NWH, you only see the flash of Eddie disappearing from the bartender's perspective, and in TLD, you see the actual portal, which could have been the same portal in NWH. Also, TLD cuts away before the symbiote piece is left on the bar in MCU-verse. So it appears that it happens in both universes. Shouldn't (parts of) the scene be on this timeline as well? I didn't notice it.

yea it's essentially the same as the scene from venom 2 just slightly different, id say it's worth including both here

 

[DrewVeenstra]

btw the changes will be only about the present day events and the flashbacks about Daredevil's 1st nights on crime or all of season 1 will change? So like the flashbacks with fisk killing his father etc...

Most of the flashbacks are solid as is, it's mostly just the present day events that need to be changed. I went ahead and changed the dates of the college flashbacks, the Landman and Zack flashback, and the Stick flashbacks back in October to better dates. I guess it wouldn't hurt revisiting them, but where they are at now is generally around the right area.

By the way, we've ended up deciding that we're going to wait to move Season 1 to 2014 until Daredevil: Born Again Season 1 wraps up in April in case that series ends up supporting 2015 or something.