Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[Dallas Kinard]

 

[SoyaCS]

Dude, I was literally watching that as I read through the replies. I'm in the Trueman show.

 

[myusernameyes]

bet the show's glazers must feel reeeeeeal stupid rn huh

 

[SoyaCS]

bet the show's glazers must feel reeeeeeal stupid rn huh

....?

 

[Dego Strange]

bet the show's glazers must feel reeeeeeal stupid rn huh

bet spectacular spiderman will never coming back.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Uxoricide_Victim_Maria_Castle_Universehttps://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Frank_Castle/Castle-Lieberman_Thanksgiving_MassacreThis **** is hilarious, oh my God!

 

[selfishmisery]

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Uxoricide_Victim_Maria_Castle_Universehttps://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Frank_Castle/Castle-Lieberman_Thanksgiving_MassacreThis **** is hilarious, oh my God!

Dreams are dreams unless pointed out to be another reality.
That's what Marvel established. Not this *****.

Deadpool could dream about a Elephant shaped like the letter "Q" that turns air into paperclips and craps moons out of its mouth but that doesn't mean such a universe exists.

 

[SoyaCS]

Dreams are dreams unless pointed out to be another reality.
That's what Marvel established. Not this *****.

Deadpool could dream about a Elephant shaped like the letter "Q" that turns air into paperclips and craps moons out of its mouth but that doesn't mean such a universe exists.

Wait when did Marvel say "Dreams are dreams unless pointed out to be another reality"?

 

[selfishmisery]

Wait when did Marvel say "Dreams are dreams unless pointed out to be another reality"?

What I meant is if it's not insinuated to be another reality within the narrative or story, it's simply a dream.

The Dream Dimension in Marvel lore is a collection of fears and dreams, some of things that don't exist.
Nightmare himself CAN create new realities from dreams, but that has to be pointed out.

 

[SoyaCS]

What I meant is if it's not insinuated to be another reality within the narrative or story, it's simply a dream.

The Dream Dimension in Marvel lore is a collection of fears and dreams, some of things that don't exist.
Nightmare himself CAN create new realities from dreams, but that has to be pointed out.

But when is this established in the MCU...?

 

[selfishmisery]

But when is this established in the MCU...?

When is it established in the MCU that Frank comes face-to-face with clone Frank who shoots his wife in front of him and this is Earth-50934 or whatever?

 

[SoyaCS]

When is it established in the MCU that Frank comes face-to-face with clone Frank who shoots his wife in front of him a la Earth-50934 or whatever?

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

 

[selfishmisery]

Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness

You're going to have to be more specific.

Lines of dialogue, scenes.

 

[Pro Bot]

When is it established in the MCU that Frank comes face-to-face with clone Frank who shoots his wife in front of him and this is Earth-50934 or whatever?

I like to joke that it's a multiversal Frank Castle killing his family across the multiverse so that they'll always be a Punisher. It's just such a stupid scene to take literally so I find that amusing.

 

[selfishmisery]

I'm aware of what Doctor Strange said pertaining to dreams being a glimpse into other lives.
For starters, that's narrative driven so that applies to existing dreams that are presented within that story.

Not home intruder / clone Frank. I don't recall that scene in Dr Strange 2.

 

[SoyaCS]

You're going to have to be more specific.

Lines of dialogue, scenes.

 

[selfishmisery]

Is Frank part of that equation? Where is Frank Castle in that scene?

I didn't see him. Also, read what I said above.

 

[SoyaCS]

I'm aware of what Doctor Strange said pertaining to dreams being a glimpse into other lives.
For starters, that's narrative driven so that applies to existing dreams that are presented within that story.

Not home intruder / clone Frank. I don't recall that scene in Dr Strange 2.

They literally establish all dreams are universes. They even make a joke about it when Wong talks about the dream where he runs naked from a clown and America Chavez says "it's somewhere out there".

 

[selfishmisery]

Yes, Dr Strange, Wong and Chavez can look into other lives via dreams because they have the ability to.

They are mystical-powered people. Not Frank.

 

[SoyaCS]

Yes, Dr Strange and Chavez can look into other lives via dreams because they have the ability to.

They are mystical-powered people. Not Frank.

That is not established in the film. That is you coping because you don't like the idea of all dreams being another universe.

 

[Starvel]

They literally establish all dreams are universes. They even make a joke about it when Wong talks about the dream where he runs naked from a clown and America Chavez says "it's somewhere out there".

"Dreams are windows into the lives of our multiversal selves"

"So that recurring nightmare where I'm running naked from a clown" "somewhere out there it's real"

But what's also important to note is that America Chavez states "that was [Defender Strange's] theory" and that doesn't necessarily mean *every* single dream is in fact another reality just that dreams theoretically are windows into other realities.

 

[Starvel]

Yes, Dr Strange, Wong and Chavez can look into other lives via dreams because they have the ability to.

They are mystical-powered people. Not Frank.

Okay so this is never established to be a thing in the film either. They do not establish that "mystical powered people" see into other realities with dreams, just that theoretically dreams are windows into other realities.

 

[SoyaCS]

"Dreams are windows into the lives of our multiversal selves"

"So that recurring nightmare where I'm running naked from a clown" "somewhere out there it's real"

But what's also important to note is that America Chavez states "that was ]Defender Strange's] theory" and that doesn't necessarily mean *every* single dream is in fact another reality just that dreams theoretically are windows into other realities.

And as of now we have no reason not to believe said theory.

 

[Pro Bot]

Is Frank part of that equation? Where is Frank Castle in that scene?

I didn't see him. Also, read what I said above.

He's mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still... that he becomes invisible to the eye.

 

[SoyaCS]

He's mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still... that he becomes invisible to the eye.

 

[selfishmisery]

Okay, since I'm "coping" with said 'facts', let's create a new TRN for Frank Castle's dreams like his clone shooting Frank's wife in front of him and also, while we're at it, put X-Men 97 and all of the 90s-adjacent cartoons in this timeline.

How does that sound?

 

[Starvel]

And as of now we have no reason not to believe said theory.

Unfortunately yes, I believe the implication is all dreams are windows into other realities. However it is stated to just be a theory and given that making all dreams windows into other realities is a stupid ass decision I've elected to use that line to ignore it lol

 

[SoyaCS]

Okay, since I'm "coping" with said 'facts', let's create a new TRN for Frank Castle's dreams like his clone shooting Frank's wife in front of him and also, while we're at it, put X-Men 97 and all of the 90s-adjacent cartoons in this timeline.

How does that sound?

....?

 

[selfishmisery]

....?

You are literally arguing for that.

Is that true?

 

[SoyaCS]

You are literally arguing for that.

Is that true?

I think you worded it weird because I thought you were saying the universe where Frank murders his wife is the same as the animated universe.

So I was confused.