Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[Regsta]

Spoiler: DD: BA - 1x1 and 1x2 Timeline

So the timeline is like this:
Spider-Man: No Way Home (Matt Murdock scene with Peter, May and Happy) - July 2024

Hawkeye - December 2024

Echo - May 2025

She-Hulk (1x8) - August 2025

She-Hulk (1x9) - September 2025

DD: BA - 1x1 (Prologue/Foggy's death) - Late October 2025

DD: BA - 1x1 (Main Events) - Late October-November 3, 2026 (NY Mayor election, probably together with presidential election, the election that Ross win)

DD: BA - 1x2 - December 31, 2026-January 1-3, 2027

 

[Rman]

Not sure if they're going to be noticeable in the show, but there were also set photos that had posters dated for Friday March 12th, which also fits with a 2027 placement. There's also the St Patrick's Day decorations from the bank robbery scene. So, it looks like the show is going to cover months. There's a few shots with warmer weather too so there's a chance it could even pass BNW in the timeline.

 

[SoyaCS]

Well, you wouldn't like me in charge of this timeline then, woooweee, no you wouldn't.

Well if you were in charge you'd make sure timeline decisions were a democracy right? And not a dictatorship?

 

[Dego Strange]

Well if you were in charge you'd make sure timeline decisions were a democracy right? And not a dictatorship?

right?... right????

 

[Pro Bot]

Well if you were in charge you'd make sure timeline decisions were a democracy right? And not a dictatorship?

right?... right????

Yes... but comics with MCU franchise characters get added to either the timeline (in the case of the Kahhori or TVA comics) or viewing order (in the case of MCU TVA's comic appearances), and the canonical Captain Britain numerical system takes priority for me (Earth-10005-Revised and Earth-17315). It's consistency and objectivity with the rest of the multiverse. You could expect me to do the same thing if a character from Earth-616 travelled to Earth-199999 - that scene is set in the MCU, so it's on the timeline. Like how I include the Across the Spider-Verse Earth-688B scene on the Earth-688B timeline, that's just objective.

I know not everyone is happy with that, but not everyone was happy that the Marvel Television shows are canon and included. Tough luck. In the case of actual placements, I wouldn't enforce my rule at all, XD. I don't have any strong opinions against anything here, I wouldn't make big changes, and like, yeah, whatever you guys prefer would be absolutely fine.

 

[Pro Bot]

Anyway, I'm not taking over right now. That's just hypothetical. Maybe the threat of my inclusion of the dreaded TVA comic will encourage someone else, lol. So scary... please though, I don't wanna have to do it. Please?

 

[Pro Bot]

Also, pretty sure that most people here would vote for the TVA comic anyway.

 

[Regsta]

Spoiler: DD: BA - Timeline placement

The timeline is like this:
Spider-Man: No Way Home (Matt Murdock scene with Peter, May and Happy) - July 2024

Hawkeye - December 2024

Echo - May 2025

She-Hulk (1x8) - August 2025

She-Hulk (1x9) - September 2025

DD: BA - 1x1 (Prologue/Foggy's death) - Late October 2025

DD: BA - 1x1 (Main Events) - Late October-November 3, 2026 (NY Mayor election, probably together with presidential election, the election that Ross win)

DD: BA - 1x2 - December 31, 2026-January 1-3, 2027

 

[Dego Strange]

Yes... but comics with MCU franchise characters get added to either the timeline (in the case of the Kahhori or TVA comics) or viewing order (in the case of MCU TVA's comic appearances), and the canonical Captain Britain numerical system takes priority for me (Earth-10005-Revised and Earth-17315). It's consistency and objectivity with the rest of the multiverse. You could expect me to do the same thing if a character from Earth-616 travelled to Earth-199999 - that scene is set in the MCU, so it's on the timeline. Like how I include the Across the Spider-Verse Earth-688B scene on the Earth-688B timeline, that's just objective.

I actually agree with you.

 

[SoyaCS]

Also, pretty sure that most people here would vote for the TVA comic anyway.

Which I don't really understand because from a non biased standpoint the TVA comics themselves don't seem to think of themselves as canon.

 

[Regsta]

I think season 1 of Born Again will end prior CA: BNW, in March or early April of 2027.

 

[Pro Bot]

Which I don't really understand because from a non biased standpoint the TVA comics themselves don't seem to think of themselves as canon.

TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...

 

[SoyaCS]

TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...

Excpet the comic writers have stated that this is just their interpretation of the aftermath of Loki Season 2.

Kevin Feige has stated that the TVA comic is using the MCU how the MCU used comics as inspiration and now this comics is doing the same.

 

[SoyaCS]

TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...

It would be cool if it was canon but that doesn't seem to be the intention of the TVA comics, though the canoncity of the comic is neither left nor right

 

[Slyonic]

TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...

A sequel to Loki AND Deadpool & Wolverine.

I do agree that after watching that video that was posted that the creator's comments do not help with placing it in canon. Calling it a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA is weird as hell, considering it keeps referencing events that happened in the MCU. You could easily make a comic interpration of the MCU TVA (same characters, look & feel) without referencing past MCU events, but they chose not to do so, which to me points more towards it being canon, and the creator's comments being misinterpreted. Seems to me "comic interpretation" was supposed to be taken as "Comic translation" of the MCU TVA.

 

[SoyaCS]

A sequel to Loki AND Deadpool & Wolverine.

I do agree that after watching that video that was posted that the creator's comments do not help with placing it in canon. Calling it a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA is weird as hell, considering it keeps referencing events that happened in the MCU. You could easily make a comic interpration of the MCU TVA (same characters, look & feel) without referencing past MCU events, but they chose not to do so, which to me points more towards it being canon, and the creator's comments being misinterpreted. Seems to me "comic interpretation" was supposed to be taken as "Comic translation" of the MCU TVA.

Crazy idea but maybe comic interpretation just means comic interpretation. And of course the interpretation would reference the events it's inspired by

 

[Slyonic]

Crazy idea but maybe comic interpretation just means comic interpretation. And of course the interpretation would reference the events it's inspired by

But the MCU movies are a movie interpretation of the comics, yet do not reference the comic events (as in "This transpired before the movie events")

 

[SoyaCS]

But the MCU movies are a movie interpretation of the comics, yet do not reference the comic events (as in "This transpired before the movie events")

And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.


And there's also the whole TVA comic artist saying and I quote "MCU and Marvel Comics are not the same thing." Though wether or not that can be used as concrete evidence for non canonicity is debatable, which is why I didn't bring it up before.

 

[Pro Bot]

Excpet the comic writers have stated that this is just their interpretation of the aftermath of Loki Season 2.

Actually, that's distorting the statement. She said that this is her comics interpretation of the TVA following Loki S2. It's a comics interpretation because it's a comic book, not because it's a different TVA. One could say the same for animation. It's the MCU TVA in comic book form... a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA.

Kevin Feige has stated that the TVA comic is using the MCU how the MCU used comics as inspiration and now this comics is doing the same.

That's certainly an interpretation of his statements, but read in a specific way to fit the narrative that it isn't canon. He did not say that it was a different TVA, and it is not an inaccurate statement either.

The Kahhori comic is absolutely canon as it has been confirmed numerous times that it's the same Kahhori. You must accept the movies and comics as the same multiverse. Based on this, you either have to accept that the comics TVA went through the exact same events that the MCU one did while existing in the same multiverse as it, or that we're seeing the MCU TVA interacting with the comics realities. Which is more convoluted?

 

[SoyaCS]

I don't believe anything of what you said was necessarily wrong but I believe nothing I said was necessarily wrong either. So I don't think this debate can really go anywhere. Since their is no conclusive answer, it leaves fans to interpret the quotes to fit the narrative they see most likely.

So as I said early, I'm not really biased one way or another, I just feel Option A is more likely than Option B; because of this I am willing to wait for a undebateable canon statement, before trying to claim Option A or Option B is the 100% correct answer.

 

[Rman]

At this point in time, I feel there's evidence for both sides and it's up to the individual on whether they want to see it as canon or not. In the chance the comic is canon, I'd be surprised if it was ever relevant outside of it.

 

[SoyaCS]

At this point in time, I feel there's evidence for both sides and it's up to the individual on whether they want to see it as canon or not. In the chance the comic is canon, I'd be surprised if it was ever relevant outside of it.

Took the words right out of my mouth

 

[selfishmisery]

Spoiler: DD: Born Again SPOILERS

Where are people getting "October" for the month that Foggy dies?

 

[Rman]

Spoiler: DD: Born Again SPOILERS

Where are people getting "October" for the month that Foggy dies?

I believe it's an estimate, since the show picks up a year after before the November election.

 

[Megatron]

And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.

yeah, but following your logic, we'll have 2 realities, 1 it's the MCU we all know, the other is another reality that has everything that the MCU has + the comics, so in the end you'll always have a reality with both of them being canon. Sooo?

 

[SoyaCS]

yeah, but following your logic, we'll have 2 realities, 1 it's the MCU we all know, the other is another reality that has everything that the MCU has + the comics, so in the end you'll always have a reality with both of them being canon. Sooo?

...?

 

[Megatron]

And there's also the whole TVA comic artist saying and I quote "MCU and Marvel Comics are not the same thing." Though wether or not that can be used as concrete evidence for non canonicity is debatable, which is why I didn't bring it up before.

I mean... yeah? Raimi's Trilogy is different from the comics, like the comics are different from The Days of Future Past's comic timeline, etc...

 

[selfishmisery]

I believe it's an estimate, since the show picks up a year after before the November election.

I would put that scene in a ???? after Werewolf By Night

 

[SoyaCS]

I mean... yeah? Raimi's Trilogy is different from the comics, like the comics are different from The Days of Future Past's comic timeline, etc...

Maybe I'm confused but I don't understand the point you're trying to make

 

[Megatron]

...?

you said this:

And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.

So we have the TVA comic reality wich is 99% as the MCU timeline. So ehm... at this point why don't have both? It seems reductant and useless to have 2 almost identical realities.