Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

[DIrishB]

I have to disagree. Consider the end dialogue of 3-22

Coulson "call the director. We struck out again."
Mac "he'll take us off the trail"
Coulson "and call in the national guard. Yeah."
Mac "where will we be assigned?"
Coulson "guess we will have to wait and see. "

Then in 4-01 we discover that Coulson and Mac have been pulled off the daisy case and have spent the last 6 weeks in the air on zephyr one without touching down.

Mac was right the director did reassign them as he predicted. And must have spent at least 6 additional weeks not tracking daisy after 3-22.

So rewatching the episode and it never confirms the ending portion of 3x22 occurred 6 weeks before. The 6 weeks comment could very well have included the events at end of 3x22 (the flashforward). The only info given is that they've been on various missions around the globe for 6 weeks. Touching down obviously refers to them returning to the base, so presumably they have been gone from the base for a month and a half. But nowhere is it stated they were pulled off the Daisy case 6 weeks ago, only that they've spent 6 weeks on various missions. They very well could only have been pulled off the Daisy case a week or two before, or a month, etc. Its not specified.

You're taking the six weeks comment to mean since their last encounter with Daisy, but the six weeks comments are completely separate from that event, and only apply to the list of missions they'd been on (one of which could have included chasing Daisy for some portion of those 6 weeks when other assignments didn't conflict).

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they intended that to be six weeks after the flashforward.

Also, there will likely be some degree of crossover element with Doctor Strange. If that film has any timeline markers that'll set the precedent, but I am reluctant to force 4x01 through presumably 4x07 or so for the crossover episodes and Doctor Strange all in December (assuming DS is still meant to be set in 2016, which is likely given most of the films at least match their release year in terms of timeline). While I don't utilize the release date order nonsense, there is some validity to the approach of the films/episodes retaining some element of modern time. Forcing 4x01 into December likely would push everything after 4x04 or so and onwards into 2017, including the Doctor Strange film, which I don't think is accurate.

For now I'm going to leave it in October. Maybe I missed something but nothing I saw indicated the six weeks comment applied to their reassignment, only how long they'd been gone from the base on various assignments, nor six weeks since they'd been taken off Daisy's case.

Also, don't forget AIDA. The 3x22 ending scene has the Dr. Radcliffe declaring that "today" was AIDA's birthday. Her body was clearly complete through the hazy glass wall at that point too. Presumably he wouldn't wait 6 weeks to introduce her to Fitz.

I don't know. Just doesn't seem likely they intended 4x01 to pick up 6 weeks after the 3x22 ending, and the dialogue doesn't necessarily support that either. We'll see if upcoming episodes feature any clues (like the baseball/fall clues in early Season 3) that give a clearer timeline, but I truly doubt they intend it to pick up in December.

 

[dsethlewis]

I finally finished Part 1 of my MCU edit. Part 1 runs from 2988 BC to 14 June, 1943, lasts about an hour (I'm trying to make all my parts about this length), and includes all content on this timeline except comic adaptations. So Part I alone has content from:

Thor - The Dark World
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 2 episodes
Thor
Agent Carter - 3 episodes
Captain America - The First Avenger: First Vengeance
Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Captain America - The First Avenger

I'd love to get feedback on it so I can correct any mistakes and improve it going forward. If you're willing to take a look at it, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you the magnet link.

Also, I've already started working on Part 2, which will run from 14 June, 1943 to October, 1943. No promises on when I'll get it out though. I'm trying out a heavier duty video editing program (DaVinci Resolve) because WMM had sever limitations (and bugs!), and it's taking some time to learn. I may just end up going back to WMM...

 

[Donutman]

The Comic adaptation of Iron Man and Iron Man 2 have some extra panels you don't see in the movies. Are you planning to add these as well?

 

[dsethlewis]

The Comic adaptation of Iron Man and Iron Man 2 have some extra panels you don't see in the movies. Are you planning to add these as well?

Yep, I've read all the adaptations and intended to include new material. There are definitely the IM1 and IM2 additions, but I can't recall if there are others. I feel like I remember something new in the Thor one, but I may be confusing that with the TDW Prelude. I should probably read through them again and note any new stuff.

Thanks for the reminder and enjoy the megacut!

 

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

I think you have done great work D. Please understand that I'm not trying to be argumentative. However I believe you are overlooking one important detail. At the end of 3x22 coulson and Mac are chasing daisy on the ground. They've been in that hotel for numerous days. They are on the new directors mission. Then in 4x1 they have been in the air for 6 weeks. They could not have been on the ground chasing daisy for at least 6 weeks since they haven't touched ground. Most likely they were pulled off the daisy case after their failure in 3x22 as they stated that they believed they would be reassigned as they apparently were. To ingnore this is an error in my opinion. Maybe Doctor strange will tighten (or even contradict) the timeline. Maybe it won't. But until such time that more evidence is given I do not believe that this obvious time mark should be ignored.

Again I should stress that you have done an excellent job with this timeline. It's by far the most detailed and accurate one out there. Know my medications are to keep that high standard not to be right. If further evidence shifts this in the timeline so be it.

 

[dsethlewis]

Know my medications are to keep that high standard not to be right. If further evidence shifts this in the timeline so be it.

I haven't watched the end of Season 4 recently enough to argue this point. Both your arguments seem legit to me.

So my only question is...your medications?

 

[Zpdedoda]

I finally finished Part 1 of my MCU edit. Part 1 runs from 2988 BC to 14 June, 1943, lasts about an hour (I'm trying to make all my parts about this length), and includes all content on this timeline except comic adaptations

Pardon my ignorance about the comic section but what is the difference between Captain America - The First Avenger: First Vengeance and the comic adaptions that means it gets included? If you are having everything in 1 hour sections then currently you'd have about 120 sections, in case you wondered (that will go up as soon as Luke Cage comes out)


As for a video editing program, VideoPad Video Editor has served me pretty well

 

[vintsukka]

I think you have done great work D. Please understand that I'm not trying to be argumentative. However I believe you are overlooking one important detail. At the end of 3x22 coulson and Mac are chasing daisy on the ground. They've been in that hotel for numerous days. They are on the new directors mission. Then in 4x1 they have been in the air for 6 weeks. They could not have been on the ground chasing daisy for at least 6 weeks since they haven't touched ground. Most likely they were pulled off the daisy case after their failure in 3x22 as they stated that they believed they would be reassigned as they apparently were. To ingnore this is an error in my opinion. Maybe Doctor strange will tighten (or even contradict) the timeline. Maybe it won't. But until such time that more evidence is given I do not believe that this obvious time mark should be ignored.

Again I should stress that you have done an excellent job with this timeline. It's by far the most detailed and accurate one out there. Know my medications are to keep that high standard not to be right. If further evidence shifts this in the timeline so be it.

"How long has it been?"
"Six weeks in the air. Only the Quinjet touched down."
- May and Coulson

You could argue that what we saw in 3x22 was Coulson and Mac on a Quinjet trip, while the Bus was in the air.

While I think the writers meant there is a 6 week gap between 3x22 and 4x01, it can be argued both ways. Guess we should wait for further proof either way.

 

[dsethlewis]

Pardon my ignorance about the comic section but what is the difference between Captain America - The First Avenger: First Vengeance and the comic adaptions that means it gets included?

First Vengeance is basically the TFA prelude, but it came out before Marvel started calling their prelude comics preludes (FBW was the first and still one of the best). I really enjoyed First Vengeance so I definitely recommend a read.

If you are having everything in 1 hour sections then currently you'd have about 120 sections, in case you wondered (that will go up as soon as Luke Cage comes out)

Oh, I'm well, almost painfully, aware. I've toyed with the possibility of skipping any "pure" sections - i.e., releases that have no flashbacks or overlap with other releases.

There are relatively small sections, like Agent Carter 1x03 - 1x04, and larger sections, like

Agent Carter 2x05 - 2x10
Ant-Man Prelude
possibly Iron Man (only issue is at the end and I don't remember if there actually is anything that will need to be cut together)
Black Widow Strikes
Item 47
Iron Man 3, basically
All Hail the King and Winter Soldier Infinite
Agents of SHIELD 1x01 - 1x07
...and plenty of others,

that can be watched or read straight through without cutting to anything else.

So is it worth my time to chop up three comic books and put them back together in video form? Would anybody want to watch that? I don't know. I could probably throw a title page up that says "Go read Black Widow Strikes. I'll wait. Or skip to [timestamp] to continue watching", put in some soundtrack ("Natalie Intro," "Black Widow Kicks Ass," "Red Ledger," "Lemurian Star," "Natasha," etc. etc.) for 20 minutes, and include a copy of the series in the torrent package. It would probably be more enjoyable and easier for me.

And why chop up a 2 hour movie into three awkward parts? There's no point. It's just a question of where I can add value and where I'm just wasting everyone's time.

But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

As far as overlapping sections and flashbacks, though, I would like to cut those together. That's the whole point! But who knows how much I'll get through before I grow old and die. It's just a fun hobby project, so I'll do as much as I feel like.

As for a video editing program, VideoPad Video Editor has served me pretty well

Yep, I downloaded it. It's my backup in case DaVinci Resolve doesn't work out. I'll admit I chose Resolve over it essentially because Resolve has a beautiful black UI and VideoPad looks like boring open source software. I have no idea which is functionally better.

 

[Zpdedoda]

I've toyed with the possibility of skipping any "pure" sections - i.e., releases that have no flashbacks or overlap with other releases.

There are relatively small sections, like Agent Carter 1x03 - 1x04, and larger sections, like

Agent Carter 2x05 - 2x10
Ant-Man Prelude
possibly Iron Man (only issue is at the end and I don't remember if there actually is anything that will need to be cut together)
Black Widow Strikes
Item 47
Iron Man 3, basically
All Hail the King and Winter Soldier Infinite
Agents of SHIELD 1x01 - 1x07
...and plenty of others,

that can be watched or read straight through without cutting to anything else.

So is it worth my time to chop up three comic books and put them back together in video form? Would anybody want to watch that? I don't know. I could probably throw a title page up that says "Go read Black Widow Strikes. I'll wait. Or skip to [timestamp] to continue watching", put in some soundtrack ("Natalie Intro," "Black Widow Kicks Ass," "Red Ledger," "Lemurian Star," "Natasha," etc. etc.) for 20 minutes, and include a copy of the series in the torrent package. It would probably be more enjoyable and easier for me.

And why chop up a 2 hour movie into three awkward parts? There's no point. It's just a question of where I can add value and where I'm just wasting everyone's time.

But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

As far as overlapping sections and flashbacks, though, I would like to cut those together. That's the whole point! But who knows how much I'll get through before I grow old and die. It's just a fun hobby project, so I'll do as much as I feel like.

With small sections like you have, dealing with the 'pure' sections for the tv shows/films, it would probably be easier by leaving them as they are otherwise, as you said, it would be awkward having something cut into separate parts when it doesn't really need it. How you'd deal with the comics would be up to you and however you felt was best to present it. Because my edits are ~10 hours long each, I've stitched them all together anyway, also I've cut out every single credit and title sequence to make it run smoother so I'd have had to edit every episode anyway.

 

[DIrishB]

I think you have done great work D. Please understand that I'm not trying to be argumentative. However I believe you are overlooking one important detail. At the end of 3x22 coulson and Mac are chasing daisy on the ground. They've been in that hotel for numerous days. They are on the new directors mission. Then in 4x1 they have been in the air for 6 weeks. They could not have been on the ground chasing daisy for at least 6 weeks since they haven't touched ground. Most likely they were pulled off the daisy case after their failure in 3x22 as they stated that they believed they would be reassigned as they apparently were. To ingnore this is an error in my opinion. Maybe Doctor strange will tighten (or even contradict) the timeline. Maybe it won't. But until such time that more evidence is given I do not believe that this obvious time mark should be ignored. Again I should stress that you have done an excellent job with this timeline. It's by far the most detailed and accurate one out there. Know my medications are to keep that high standard not to be right. If further evidence shifts this in the timeline so be it.

But thats the thing, they're referring to "touching down" not as the jet being in the air for 6 weeks, but being away from the Hub/base for 6 weeks. Obviously they landed the jet to accomplish the recent mission they talk about while playing the game (think it was in Berlin), meaning they haven't been aloft in the jet for 6 weeks. The idea is they've been away from base for 6 weeks, completing missions, etc. That's what they mean by touching down. Normally that would refer to landing at all, but presumably its a part of SHIELD parlance, touching down meaning returning to base, which they hadn't done in 6 weeks.

Again, there's no direct evidence indicating the 6 weeks is since they lost track of Daisy in terms of ending of 3x22. I think its entirely possible Daisy getting away occurred during the 6 weeks they were gone from base on missions.

The AIDA plot also kind of indicates not much time has passed between ending of 3x22 (the flashforward) and 4x01. Its undetermined exactly how much time, could be a few weeks, we just don't know.

But like I said, I doubt very much they're intending that to mean 6 weeks after Daisy's escape in 3x22. There's no evidence of that. The six weeks comment doesn't specify its been since that event, only that that's how long they've been away from base. And the 3x22 ending, with them in hotel room tracking her, very well could've occurred during those six weeks.

And don't worry about being argumentative, that's best way to make determinations.

But I truly don't think that was the intent of the six weeks comment. Its entirely possible the 3x22 ending occurred during those 6 weeks.

We should try to ask one of the showrunners of AoS on Twitter to clarify, assuming any use it.

"How long has it been?"
"Six weeks in the air. Only the Quinjet touched down."
- May and Coulson

You could argue that what we saw in 3x22 was Coulson and Mac on a Quinjet trip, while the Bus was in the air.

While I think the writers meant there is a 6 week gap between 3x22 and 4x01, it can be argued both ways. Guess we should wait for further proof either way.

But how are they performing the recent missions they discussed if they've "been in air" the entire time? Further, whats the point of having two highly trained agents riding around in the jet for 6 weeks? This is the issue I'm having.

When they say "touch down", I'm 99% sure they mean returning to base, not actually landing.

I'm open to the idea if its confirmed, but it seems unlikely, and outright doesn't make sense considering they blatantly state they recently completed missions... they couldn't have done so while on the jet. Hence I'm taking "touch down" to mean return to base, which does make sense given they've recently completed missions as established by their dialogue during the backgammon game.

 

[vintsukka]

But how are they performing the recent missions they discussed if they've "been in air" the entire time? Further, whats the point of having two highly trained agents riding around in the jet for 6 weeks? This is the issue I'm having.

When they say "touch down", I'm 99% sure they mean returning to base, not actually landing.

I took it to mean the Bus has been in the air for six weeks, but the Quinjet (which presumably works like a shuttlecraft in Star Trek, a smaller vessel inside the big one) has been used for missions. So yes, they've been busy with missions for six weeks, but the Bus has stayed in the air that whole time, only the Quinjet has landed.

So basically, it can be argued both ways.

 

[DIrishB]

Trailer for Luke Cage shows a date of December 1 on a police cruiser camera (at 1:44 mark):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snJ-nRgx8o0&sns=em

So that disputes the claim made by one of the actors in a behind the scenes interview that Luke Cage occurs a few months after Jessica Jones. We'll find out this weekend. The December date is also supported by the cold weather/no leaves on trees.

Presumably Luke Cage will span at least November to December (unless that scene is from first episode and it picks up on Dec 1). This is backed up by an interview with Charlie Cox who revealed Luke Cage would parallel/cross over with Daredevil Season 2 in some ways, and the dates aligning perfectly prove that. Love it when a plan comes together. Gonna rewatch Daredevil Season 2 this week and chart it out in detail to prep for inserting the Luke Cage episodes where they fall.

"One thing that I thought was really cool is that in the second season [of 'Daredevil'], we had a scene together and in the storyline we hadn't seen each other for a long time and it takes place at the hospital," said Cox. "Roasario had — Claire Temple has a cut in her eyebrow. So I was like, 'What is that?' Apparently it had nothing to do with our world but it's part of 'Luke Cage.' The timeline had been thought through and worked out so that whatever's going on in 'Luke Cage,' which we don't know, I don't know, somehow at some point during that show, the next day she's in the hospital talking to me."

http://io9.gizmodo.com/daredevils-charlie-cox-explains-how-tiny-details-tie-ma-1785645920

I took it to mean the Bus has been in the air for six weeks, but the Quinjet (which presumably works like a shuttlecraft in Star Trek, a smaller vessel inside the big one) has been used for missions. So yes, they've been busy with missions for six weeks, but the Bus has stayed in the air that whole time, only the Quinjet has landed.

So basically, it can be argued both ways.

Fair enough, but again, as said they could've easily taken Quinjet to track down Daisy as shown in ending of 3x22. There's no direct evidence six weeks have passed between that 3x22 flash forward and 4x01, and I'm reluctant to place it as such without hard proof as it'll inevitable create problems for the remaining AoS episodes set in 2016 (likely through at least 4x11, AND any upcoming Doctor Strange crossover episodes).

 

[DIrishB]

Researching Daredevil Season 2. Gonna do my best to find a spot to insert a time jump to account for the heat wave depicted in early episodes, and the July date on police report. If anything, assuming it can work, I'll just account for Punisher's bruises not healing while in custody as new bruises he got from various fights with other prisoners (who would have a vendetta against him). We'll see.

 

[DIrishB]

At very end of Daredevil 2x06: "Regrets Only"

Foggy: "Reyes [the DA] pulled every string she has, and fast tracked the trial..."

Matt responds and Foggy says, "You don't understand, Matt. Frank agreed. He thinks he's sticking it to Reyes or something. I hope your schedule is clear, buddy, because the People vs Frank Castle starts next week."

I originally took that to mean Reyes was pushing to start the trial on Monday the following week, but can push that to a full seven days to push back the earlier sections and heat wave stuff to November.

Unfortunately, no other opportunities to place any large time jumps to account for the heat wave (should be summer, July based on police report date, but the show itself just doesn't offer any such opportunities for a large time jump). We'll have to assume the police report dated July 21 was an earlier Castle attack that happened to have a guy who looked and dressed exactly like one of the guys killed in the Kitchen Irish massacre, and that the heat wave was extraordinarily late in the year in the MCU world's New York. I'm moving the dates up by a few days to put a full week in between DD 2x06 and 2x07.

 

[Lebnyx]

I think I might have an idea that might work as possible alternative for my earlier suggestion of Zemo travelling for 29 hours to get to Siberia... this is the problem when a movie deals with travel and multiple time zones, the timeline gets tricky :shifty:


I looked it up, and according to the comics, the speed of a Quinjet is Mach 2.1, that's 1611.27 mph. Since Cap and Bucky went to Siberia via Quinjet, that means their flight would have taken about 2.5 hours.

Considering Zemo called his hotel, as it was breakfast time in Berlin and possibly mid-afternoon in Siberia, and Tony was notified shortly afterwards about the dead psychiatrist, perhaps the airport battle in Leipzig actually took place in the morning, and Tony might have been estimating when he said Ross gave him his ultimatum 24 hours ago (in reality, it would have been 17-19 hours ago).


I found out just now that there are airports closer to Oymyakon than Yakutsk (which is where the 20-hour drive starts, according to my earlier suggestion). Ust-Nera Airport is only a 10 hour-drive away, and Zemo could have theoretically chartered a private plane to arrive at Oymyakon more directly and drive to the HYDRA compound.

Not only would that latter option be quicker for Zemo, but it also would make more sense with the (assumed) 2.5 hour-long flight from Leipzig to Siberia, and the climax of the movie would take place in the same day as the airport fight.

So, my final suggestion for this:

April 11:
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 12: "Hawkeye Returns" (1:25:00 - 1:29:28 )
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 13: "You're After the Wrong Guy" (1:29:29 - 1:34:08 )
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 14: "We Fight" (1:34:09 - 1:45:37)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 15: "We Played This Wrong" (1:45:38 - 1:55:53) (Zemo calls the hotel; morning in Germany, mid-afternoon in Siberia)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (1:55:54 - 2:01:42)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:01:55 - 2:02:02)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:05 - 2:02:06)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:09 - 2:02:10)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:19 - 2:02:20)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:30 - 2:02:34)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 17: "Steve vs. Tony" (2:02:35 - 2:12:13) (Cap, Tony and Winter Soldier fight; mid-morning in Germany, late afternoon in Siberia)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 18: "We All Need Family" (2:12:14 - 2:12:58 ) (Zemo is arrested; afternoon in Germany)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:18:34 - 2:19:59) (mid-credits scene; afternoon in Wakanda)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:26:29 - 2:27:25) (post-credits scene; evening in New York)


Thoughts, DIrishB? Do you prefer my earlier suggestion of placing the climax in Siberia on the morning of April 12th, or my new suggestion? If it helps, I'm thinking of rewatching the other MCU movies and give suggestions for them based on travel time.

 

[SexySnorlax]

According to this set photo that's been circulating on Reddit, Stark Expo might be in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstud...derman_homecoming_is_filming_in_queens_looks/
If this picture is real, then either Stark Expo (and the movie) are set in October 2018 (between the 17th and the 27th) or Stark Expo is gonna last from October 2017 to October 27th 2018 (a year long, like the Iron Man 2 Expo).
Based on the way the date on the poster is printed, I think it's probably the former.

 

[DIrishB]

I think I might have an idea that might work as possible alternative for my earlier suggestion of Zemo travelling for 29 hours to get to Siberia... this is the problem when a movie deals with travel and multiple time zones, the timeline gets tricky :shifty:


I looked it up, and according to the comics, the speed of a Quinjet is Mach 2.1, that's 1611.27 mph. Since Cap and Bucky went to Siberia via Quinjet, that means their flight would have taken about 2.5 hours.

Considering Zemo called his hotel, as it was breakfast time in Berlin and possibly mid-afternoon in Siberia, and Tony was notified shortly afterwards about the dead psychiatrist, perhaps the airport battle in Leipzig actually took place in the morning, and Tony might have been estimating when he said Ross gave him his ultimatum 24 hours ago (in reality, it would have been 17-19 hours ago).

This I disagree with. Given the set time of 36 hours to bring him in, I don't think Tony would estimate at all in such a short time span which holds such heavy stakes. I take that to actually be 24 hours (or close to it, estimating within an hour of 24 hours after Ross gives Stark the time frame).

Everything else is great work, but I wouldn't presume to shorten the 24 hour comment to 17-19 hours. All evidence shows it to be 24 hours after.

I found out just now that there are airports closer to Oymyakon than Yakutsk (which is where the 20-hour drive starts, according to my earlier suggestion). Ust-Nera Airport is only a 10 hour-drive away, and Zemo could have theoretically chartered a private plane to arrive at Oymyakon more directly and drive to the HYDRA compound.

Not only would that latter option be quicker for Zemo, but it also would make more sense with the (assumed) 2.5 hour-long flight from Leipzig to Siberia, and the climax of the movie would take place in the same day as the airport fight.

So, my final suggestion for this:

April 11:
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 12: "Hawkeye Returns" (1:25:00 - 1:29:28 )
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 13: "You're After the Wrong Guy" (1:29:29 - 1:34:08 )
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 14: "We Fight" (1:34:09 - 1:45:37)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 15: "We Played This Wrong" (1:45:38 - 1:55:53) (Zemo calls the hotel; morning in Germany, mid-afternoon in Siberia)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (1:55:54 - 2:01:42)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:01:55 - 2:02:02)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:05 - 2:02:06)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:09 - 2:02:10)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:19 - 2:02:20)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 16: "Zemo Revealed" (2:02:30 - 2:02:34)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 17: "Steve vs. Tony" (2:02:35 - 2:12:13) (Cap, Tony and Winter Soldier fight; mid-morning in Germany, late afternoon in Siberia)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 18: "We All Need Family" (2:12:14 - 2:12:58 ) (Zemo is arrested; afternoon in Germany)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:18:34 - 2:19:59) (mid-credits scene; afternoon in Wakanda)
-Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:26:29 - 2:27:25) (post-credits scene; evening in New York)


Thoughts, DIrishB? Do you prefer my earlier suggestion of placing the climax in Siberia on the morning of April 12th, or my new suggestion? If it helps, I'm thinking of rewatching the other MCU movies and give suggestions for them based on travel time.

I think its better to leave the day between. It crams too much into a single day and depends too much on ignoring the 24 hour comment by Tony.

 

[DIrishB]

According to this set photo that's been circulating on Reddit, Stark Expo might be in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstud...derman_homecoming_is_filming_in_queens_looks/
If this picture is real, then either Stark Expo (and the movie) are set in October 2018 (between the 17th and the 27th) or Stark Expo is gonna last from October 2017 to October 27th 2018 (a year long, like the Iron Man 2 Expo).
Based on the way the date on the poster is printed, I think it's probably the former.

Nice! Great info.

Pretty sure the Homecoming Dance tickets showed a September 2017 date. Maybe it was just a September date with no specific day, can't remember.

If I had to guess, I'd say these tickets are for a Stark Expo the next year after the events of the film. It'd be weird to set the film a year ahead of its release year. Though, it could be there is a year flash forward towards end or something where these play in. We'll see.

Good info, though!

 

[Hurricanebtvs]

Currently on episode 4 of Luke Cage. Without spoilers, episode 4 is a flashback episode to his time at Seagate. I had previously assumed that because of the dashcam footage in the latest trailer, he got his powers in 2001. But, in prison he's just name dropped Nicki Minaj. So he was in prison within the last six years and the dashcam footage (If it's actually cannon and appears in a future episode) places the series around November/December. Which would match Daredevil season 2 being set at the same time.

Edit:

Episode 5 counteracts that slightly. Claire tells the story of the Hand's attack on the hospital. She arrives in Harlem just after the attack (Maybe a couple of weeks after) So it's happening concurrently, but she doesn't have any cuts on her like she did in Daredevil.

Turk (The arms dealer from Daredevil) appears in the first two episodes, and at the end of episode 2 he says "I'm heading back to Hell's Kitchen". He appeared in Daredevil episode 2x13 and it's mentioned he's under house arrest.

 

[DIrishB]

Towards end of Luke Cage 1x02, Luke mentions he's been working at the barber shop for five months. If Luke Cage Season 1 covers November-December as I suspect, that means Luke got the job at shop a few months after events of Jessica Jones, most likely. Only 2 episodes in so not sure if there are any time jumps or places to insert a larger period of time, but the direct crossover elements from Daredevil Season 2 will help.

Currently on episode 4 of Luke Cage. Without spoilers, episode 4 is a flashback episode to his time at Seagate. I had previously assumed that because of the dashcam footage in the latest trailer, he got his powers in 2001. But, in prison he's just name dropped Nicki Minaj. So he was in prison within the last six years and the dashcam footage (If it's actually cannon and appears in a future episode) places the series around November/December. Which would match Daredevil season 2 being set at the same time.

Edit:

Episode 5 counteracts that slightly. Claire tells the story of the Hand's attack on the hospital. She arrives in Harlem just after the attack (Maybe a couple of weeks after) So it's happening concurrently, but she doesn't have any cuts on her like she did in Daredevil.

Turk (The arms dealer from Daredevil) appears in the first two episodes, and at the end of episode 2 he says "I'm heading back to Hell's Kitchen". He appeared in Daredevil episode 2x13 and it's mentioned he's under house arrest.

Turk also appears in Daredevil 2x01. Great info. I'm slowly going through it now, enjoying the show.

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Towards end of Luke Cage 1x02, Luke mentions he's been working at the barber shop for five months. If Luke Cage Season 1 covers November-December as I suspect, that means Luke got the job at shop a few months after events of Jessica Jones, most likely. Only 2 episodes in so not sure if there are any time jumps or places to insert a larger period of time, but the direct crossover elements from Daredevil Season 2 will help.




Turk also appears in Daredevil 2x01. Great info. I'm slowly going through it now, enjoying the show.

In the first episode they mention JJ in the form of the shotgun blast scene. Pops and Cage talk about it. I don't remember the exact dialogue since I'm not going back to check until its done. I'm 7 in and taking a break.

There is also the joke about his bartending in the same episode implying he once worked at a bar. Very certain its after JJ at that point.

 

[DIrishB]

So Luke Cage 1x05 features Claire Temple returning home to her mother's restaurant after events of Daredevil Season 2 (specifically 2x11 due to her specifically mentioning the events of that episode).

I would think the entirety of Luke Cage picks up after Daredevil Season 2, though weather wise it doesn't seem to be the case, though plot wise it must.

 

[DIrishB]

Just started watching Luke Cage 1x06. There's a possible time jump between 1x05 and 1x06.

A radio show hosted by Trish Walker (from Jessica Jones) had a caller mention Luke Cage broke up a fight "last week". Only 5 days have passed from 1x01 to 1x05, and Luke only publicly showed his super powers in 1x04 (the night of Day 4).

Therefore 1x06 must occur at least a week after 1x04.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Just started watching Luke Cage 1x06. There's a possible time jump between 1x05 and 1x06.

A radio show hosted by Trish Walker (from Jessica Jones) had a caller mention Luke Cage broke up a fight "last week". Only 5 days have passed from 1x01 to 1x05, and Luke only publicly showed his super powers in 1x04 (the night of Day 4).

Therefore 1x06 must occur at least a week after 1x04.

I have only watched the first four episodes so far, but is it possible that the "last week" comment could take place on Monday and refer to the previous Friday? It might not necessitate a week-long jump.

 

[SexySnorlax]

So Luke Cage 1x05 features Claire Temple returning home to her mother's restaurant after events of Daredevil Season 2 (specifically 2x11 due to her specifically mentioning the events of that episode).

I would think the entirety of Luke Cage picks up after Daredevil Season 2, though weather wise it doesn't seem to be the case, though plot wise it must.

It's not just the weather that doesn't make sense. The police footage that goes viral in episode 9 is dated for December 1st.

Also, in the first episode, the guys in the barber shop are talking about the upcoming 2015 Knicks season and their trepidation on the recent drafting of Porzingis, meaning the first episode is set before October 28. EDIT: My friend reminded me that Pop would have started to form an opinion on Porzingis once the preseason was underway, so the episode is probably before October 7th.

Also the kids in the shop are playing NBA 2k16 which was released September 29th.

 

[DIrishB]

The Seagate prison flashbacks in Luke Cage 1x04 likely occur in 2012. The Nicki Minaj statement implies it's at least 2010, the Zoe Kravitz comment implies at least 2011 (when she gained more fame), and the GoPro HERO3 HD cameras used to film the prison fights weren't released until 2012.

This also aligns well with the established timeline of Jessica Jones which had Reva dying in January, 2014. Presumably, Luke was in prison at Seagate around 2012 when the flashbacks occur. He escapes in same year, and he and Reva live together for a year or so before her death in Jan 2014.

I have only watched the first four episodes so far, but is it possible that the "last week" comment could take place on Monday and refer to the previous Friday? It might not necessitate a week-long jump.

Like I said:

A radio show hosted by Trish Walker (from Jessica Jones) had a caller mention Luke Cage broke up a fight "last week". Only 5 days have passed from 1x01 to 1x05, and Luke only publicly showed his super powers in 1x04 (the night of Day 4).

That'd mean he publicly displayed his powers the night of Day 4 (1x04, with 1x03 happening earlier that same day). 1x05 occurs over Day 5, meaning one day after he publicly displayed powers and started helping his neighborhood publicly. 1x06, the episode that has that "last week" comment, can't occur only on Day 6 (2 days after he revealed himself, one day after he started involving himself). He wasn't using his powers for vigilante justice before that.

Also, there are some notable repairs made to the barber shop. The glass mirrors and front windows aren't replaced yet, but all the bullet holes in the plaster walls have been patched and painted over also. The shooting occurred on Day 3 (end of 1x02), and hadn't been repaired by Day 5 (1x05), but is in 1x06. A week span allows for that, while being backed up by the dialogue.

It's not just the weather that doesn't make sense. The police footage that goes viral in episode 9 is dated for December 1st.

Also, in the first episode, the guys in the barber shop are talking about the upcoming 2015 Knicks season and their trepidation on the recent drafting of Porzingis, meaning the first episode is set before October 28. EDIT: My friend reminded me that Pop would have started to form an opinion on Porzingis once the preseason was underway, so the episode is probably before October 7th.

Also the kids in the shop are playing NBA 2k16 which was released September 29th.

Ugh. Yep. They weren't even trying, it seems. Sigh.

 

[Hurricanebtvs]

Episode 9 is on December 1st thanks to the dash cam.

 

[Lebnyx]

Haven't seen Luke Cage, but I think that for things like NBA 2K16 and the mention of the Knicks, we should just hand-wave it as the video game release date and the Knicks season being at different dates in the MCU than in the real world if they contradict, while reverse-calculating other dates from how the show matches up with the other two Netflix shows if possible.

 

[DIrishB]

Actually, maybe there isn't a week span between 1x05 and 1x06.

In 1x08, Misty is interviewing the hostess, Candace, who mentions she saw Luke and Misty together the "other night" at the club. This refers to the first episode, so there must not have been any large expanse of time between those two episodes (1x05 and 1x06) as I previously thought. Maybe Luke was using his powers more subtly to stop problems in neighborhood before?

Episode 9 is on December 1st thanks to the dash cam.

We just have to assume the dash cam is wrong due to the hard Christmas dates in Daredevil Season 2, and Luke Cage occurring after DD Season 2 (at the very least after 2x11, and given 2x12-2x13 follow immediately after, its safe to assume entirely of Luke Cage picks up after DD Season 2.

Its easier to assume the dash cam was wrong than trying to rewrite when Christmas occurs in the MCU.

Haven't seen Luke Cage, but I think that for things like NBA 2K16 and the mention of the Knicks, we should just hand-wave it as the video game release date and the Knicks season being at different dates in the MCU than in the real world if they contradict, while reverse-calculating other dates from how the show matches up with the other two Netflix shows if possible.

Yup. Not everything in the MCU aligns with our reality. Events occur on different dates, etc.