I'm going to update for the Thor - Ragnarok: Prelude issues once all four issues are out, so I can add them in by page number between chapters of Incredible Hulk and Thor - The Dark World.
Part of the issue seems to be that we assumed that the "8 years since Iron Man" reference in Civil War meant that Marvel was ignoring the references in Iron Man 2 to the events of Iron Man occurring six months before, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Now it seems that they're also assuming the Avengers took place within six months of Iron Man 2,
But thats impossible given Fury specifically mentions in Avengers that the events of Thor occurs "last year". That means at least a year between IM2/Thor/IH and Avengers.
in order for both the Spider-Man title card and Vision's dialogue to be correct-ish. Sounds like it's a matter of pushing Iron Man 2/Hulk/Thor, Avengers and Thor: The Dark World back on the timeline than anything else. Something like:
2008
(Jan-May)
Iron Man
(October)
Iron Man 2/Hulk/Thor
2009
(April)
The Avengers
2010
Thor: The Dark World
2016
Civil War/Spider-Man: Homecoming
I realize this would mean tossing most of the on-screen dates, and the TV shows suddenly have a huge time gap to deal with (though this could be beneficial for the Netflix shows), and we're still a year off with the Homecoming title card/Vision's dialogue references, but this seems to be the direction the MCU is headed.
TC
I think its better to take the Occam's Razor approach and not throw baby out with the bathwater.
Hopefully the 8 years later tag is simply a mistake they'll fix before US release, but if not, I'd rather all the other conflicting dates previously established override that single one, else we'll have to do away with years entirely and utilize a "Year 0, Year 1, Year 2, etc" approach.
We'll see how it plays out. But don't think we should ignore numerous other specific time references (even just accounting for dialogue and other time stamps, Avengers must occur in 2012 since IM3 picks up a few months (or six months depending on interview) afterwards, and its flashbacks to New Year's Eve 1999 are dated as 13 years before. Fury mentions events of Thor occurred a year before (meaning IM2 and IH also occur a year before). Sam mentioned in Civil War they'd been looking for Bucky for a couple years, not to mention the tie-in episodes of AoS and how those date themselves based on the show's internal timeline (as well as in regards to the overall MCU timeline since it often ties in with the films).
How is it exactly crappy? Because, I far as my concern, we deal better with dates than with you.
Except you don't. You take, to me, a very lazy approach by just assigning them as occurring on or around their release dates, even when it conflicts with onscreen dates. You also then break said rule to utilize correct approach for say, GotG Vol. 2, in 2014 instead of 2017 (its release date).
I wouldn't call that a better approach. Its subjective anyway, you're entitled to prefer yours.
And it is very disrespectful from you to despise others work. Who clearly does a better job, I work in the MCU wiki, and I AM PROUD OF HOW WE WORK... Also, it is a WIKI for a reason, right?? Do you think the Marvel Studios guys will focus on other timeline that is not the one the guys from the wiki did??
Again, subjective. In my opinion, your approach is lazy and often conflicts with itself (again, GotG Vol 2 is a perfect example).
Further, I assure you, the powers that be have a sort of series bible and existing timeline already, I very much doubt they're checking your wiki, no offense. It is a great tool for the fans, however, and commend you on the work you've done. I just question the conflicting logic with approach you take to placements that conflict with onscreen dates, prop or otherwise.
And our timeline is not crappy, it works well, and we think before doing silly things... Now 6 months after "I am Iron Man" is 3 years... oh yeah, pretty good work from yours...
He says, immediately after this:
And it is very disrespectful from you to despise others work.
Not silly at all. Necessary due to the retcon established by Fury's Big Week and fact Avengers establishes Thor, IM2, and Hulk occurred a year before. Meanwhile the wikia version you worked on has multiple mistakes directly contradicting onscreen dates merely to meet your illogical criteria for release date alignment.
Different approaches.
Getting really tired of you constantly chiming in and ripping on this version. As far as I know none of the members here are doing so over on the wikia Talk pages, are they? I'd ask you to offer same courtesy. You're within your rights to defend yourself, but you decided to attack my work in the process (I didn't insult you, to remind you). Further, if this timeline is so riddled with mistakes, why are you still checking in on it (apparently often based on response time to Craig's initial post)?
Seriously, stop the drama. Its a damn fictional timeline.
