Marvel Crossover Universe - Timeline

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Interesting notes here. They suggest that First Born could have occurred in both Earth-7642 and Earth-Top Cow. They note how The New Avengers/Transformers is not the same continuity as the prior Transformers comics set on Earth-91274 and Earth-120185 but is part of a reboot, which technically acknowledges that it's part of the Hasbro universe, I guess?

Earth-91274

284 appearance(s) of Earth-91274 51 image(s) of Earth-91274 11 characters that originate from Earth-91274 1 teams that originate from Earth-91274 1 organizations that originate from Earth-91274 Joepedia - The G.I. Joe Wiki TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki

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Earth-120185

97 appearance(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-120185 62 image(s) of Earth-120185 4 characters that originate from Earth-120185 1 teams that originate from Earth-120185 Joepedia - The G.I. Joe Wiki TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki

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this is the appendix?

 

[Pro Bot]

Yes - specifically the Earth-Crossover page I've linked to. It's a good detailed guide to base the timeline off of. Interestingly, it says that crossovers with characters Marvel have the publishing rights of are not part of Earth-7642, disproving that there's any relationship between that reality and the Alien/Predator crossovers.

 

[Pro Bot]

You could probably place X-Men/WildC.A.T.s #1, "The Dark Age" comic in 2019 on your timeline by the way, since it does set itself there. I just decided to calculate how many years 2019 was away from the release of the comic. Since it's an alternate future like 2099 and such, it doesn't really matter if events go past it either since it likely split off soon after WildC.A.T.s/X-Men #3, "The Modern Age". In fact, you could honestly completely ignore it with no issues... I'm a completionist though.

I'll probably translate it when it's done.

 

[Megatron]

You could probably place X-Men/WildC.A.T.s #1, "The Dark Age" comic in 2019 on your timeline by the way, since it does set itself there. I just decided to calculate how many years 2019 was away from the release of the comic. Since it's an alternate future like 2099 and such, it doesn't really matter if events go past it either since it likely split off soon after WildC.A.T.s/X-Men #3, "The Modern Age". In fact, you could honestly completely ignore it with no issues... I'm a completionist though.

I'll probably translate it when it's done.

I think 2019 is perfect tho, as it is 1 year after Unicron.

 

[Pro Bot]

I listed the two brief appearances of this universe in What If...? and Avengers Forever. They add essentially nothing, but the completionist in me has got to do it.

 

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Godzilla vs. Hulk Vol 1 1

Featured Characters: Hulk (Dr. Bruce Banner) (First appearance) Supporting Characters: United States Armed Forces (First appearance) United States Air Force (First appearance) Thunderbolts (First appearance) General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross (First appearance) Doc Samson (Dr. Leonard Samson)...

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Apparently this isn't Earth-616 or Earth-7642. Tony dies?

 

[Pro Bot]

Earth-TRN1577/Appearances

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[Pro Bot]

Honestly, I think the recent Godzilla crossovers fit into Earth-7642 better than the Predator crossovers. Tony definitely isn't dead because he's in the later Avengers crossover, Rick Jones died prior to the Hulk comic but his only appearance in 7642 is in the 1960s era, Hulk's identity is a secret in both, the contradictions to 616 don't contradict the crossover universe... I think they've got it backwards, but granted I could be wrong.

 

[Pro Bot]

Lol, Predator versus Wolverine was meant to be Earth-616?

 

[Megatron]

Lol, Predator versus Wolverine was meant to be Earth-616?

lmaoooo.

 

[Pro Bot]

Honestly, I think the recent Godzilla crossovers fit into Earth-7642 better than the Predator crossovers. Tony definitely isn't dead because he's in the later Avengers crossover, Rick Jones died prior to the Hulk comic but his only appearance in 7642 is in the 1960s era, Hulk's identity is a secret in both, the contradictions to 616 don't contradict the crossover universe... I think they've got it backwards, but granted I could be wrong.

Nevermind, post-Secret Wars events contradict.
Earth-7642

This mirrors Earth-616.

Earth-GZvM


Peter loses his suit way earlier due to a fight with Godzilla, then Eddie Brock becomes a Godzilla-based Venom.

 

[Pro Bot]

I mean, they might still fit, but it'd be a difficult timeline.

1. Events of Secret Wars occur.

2. Events of Godzilla vs Spider-Man occur soon after. Peter realises the symbiote is alive after losing it to Godzilla, but Spider-Man and Godzilla defeat the symbiote. The symbiote bonds with Eddie to become Godvenom.

3. Peter goes to Reed Richards for help defeating the symbiote (either because it rebonded with him or to defeat Godvenom), which works.

4. The symbiote escapes and bonds with Eddie once again, becoming a traditional Venom.

 

[Pro Bot]

All the characters in Team X and Team 7 are somewhat immortal, so I actually think there's no reason to apply a sliding timeline to it.

 

[Pro Bot]

Despite what the Marvel wiki says, it actually sounds like the Appendix is suggesting that Red Fever exists in Earth-616, Earth-Archie and Earth-7642, but the specific story seen in the comic is Earth-7642. Probably similar to how DC comics referenced Darkseid being trapped in the source wall after the X-Men/Teen Titans crossover and the criminal gangs from the Batman/Punisher comics, as well as a vague allusion to a vigilante with a name similar to Pulverizer. The events happened without the crossover elements I guess? Granted, I haven't seen the reference in the Women of Marvel: Celebrating Seven Decades book, perhaps that confirms that Punisher Meets Archie is fully Earth-616.

 

[Pro Bot]

The New Avengers/Transformers is set before Civil War, apparently between the Breakout and Sentry arcs in The New Avengers comic line (so 2005, publication timeline). Fusion is set soon after Civil War (2006-2007).

Since the Appendix timeline lists Unholy Union and the other "Year 12" books before The New Avengers/Transformers, it actually works out fine to just place Fusion in Year 12 without any changes, I think. In other words, they're all set in 2007 under the context of IDW Transformers.

 

[Pro Bot]

Oh, and of course, if the Godzilla vs Marvel stuff ends up not creating any substantial contradictions, Godzilla vs Avengers would likely fit between TNA/TT and Fusion.

 

[Pro Bot]

'Godzilla vs. Avengers' #1 Assembles 2000s Style in June

The Godzilla vs. Avengers #1 comic book by writer David F. Walker and artist Georges Jeanty arrives in comic book shops and online on June 18 from Marvel Comics

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Fin Fang Foom is said to be dead in Godzilla vs Hulk, killed by a Kaiju destroyer, but is alive in Godzilla vs Avengers. I suppose he must have used his obscure possession power to survive.

Spiritual Possession: If Foom's body were to sustain injury beyond his natural ability to heal, his body will die but his spirit will remain as viable as ever and doesn't cross over into some form of afterlife. Foom's spirit can then possess the bodies of other beings, including humans. Foom can use these other bodies as hosts for a while before his energies wind up burning them out and killing them. However, what he typically does is somehow transform the body he inhabits into a copy of his original body possessing all of his various natural attributes. This ultimately explains Foom's reappearances despite having been witnessed being destroyed on multiple occasions.

Tony is in that comic, eliminating a contradiction with Earth-7642 regarding a secondhand account of his death in the late 1970s/Year 5 during Godzilla vs Hulk.

 

[Pro Bot]

If the Betty and Veronica from Earth-Archie vs Predator try calling Frank Castle after Riverdale is attacked by Yautja in Earth-Archie vs Predator II, then I guess the first Archie crossover is set in Crossover Earth. Damn... I know I was talking about it, but I didn't actually know that there was a "Frank" thing at all. That's... yeah, well, I guess that confirms an Earth-7642 placement. It does make things feel a bit inconsistent to be honest, but... oh well I guess?

 

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Honestly, I think the recent Godzilla crossovers fit into Earth-7642 better than the Predator crossovers. Tony definitely isn't dead because he's in the later Avengers crossover, Rick Jones died prior to the Hulk comic but his only appearance in 7642 is in the 1960s era, Hulk's identity is a secret in both, the contradictions to 616 don't contradict the crossover universe... I think they've got it backwards, but granted I could be wrong.

Does that mean Predator versus Wolverine isn't on Earth 7642?

 

[Pro Bot]

Does that mean Predator versus Wolverine isn't on Earth 7642?

I don't see how Godzilla vs Marvel relates to Predator versus Marvel, but on the topic of Predator versus Marvel:

1. The Appendix states this. Predator comics are fully licensed by Marvel.


2. Black Panther gets his leg chopped off, which doesn't contradict anything yet necessarily, but Earth-7642 generally maintains the status quo. This is unlikely to be acknowledged in future crossovers.

3. Predator Kills the Marvel Universe is going to make it very difficult to fit them together.

4. This tweet suggests that it's not in-continuity with any other Marvel comics. Wouldn't actually stop it from being Earth-7642 if not for upcoming permanent character deaths.