Random Timeline/Chronology - The View Askew Universe (Kevin Smith movies) REBOOT

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This thread is to serve as a revival of DIrishB's previous Askewniverse thread. With all due respect to DIB, there are a few things that I disagree with in regards to his timeline placing, and this thread will reflect my interpretations and/or interpretations that seem to be the consensus. This thread is also intended to be more thorough, and uniform with the other timeline threads on this board. As such, I'll be adding in Chapter titles and such where I can. Until I can go through everything with a fine-tooth comb, this is just a start. Dates from DIB's thread will serve as stand in dates until dtermined whether or not there's any reason to change them.

VIEW ASKEWNIVERSE

1970s
????
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 1: Opening Credits: "A Long Time Ago…" (00:28-1:48)

1994
April 15-16
Oni Double Feature #1 - "Walt Flanagan's Dog"

Friday - April 16th
Mallrats Chapter 1: Main Titles
Mallrats Chapter 2: Julie Can't Make It
Mallrats Chapter 3: Brandi's Father
Mallrats Chapter 4: Breakfast Time
Mallrats Chapter 5: Willam
Mallrats Chapter 6: Hatchet Man
Mallrats Chapter 7: The Master Plan
Mallrats Chapter 8: Comic Book Store
Mallrats Chapter 9: Fashionable Male
Mallrats Chapter 10: Gwen
Mallrats Chapter 11: Mr. Svenning
Mallrats Chapter 12: At The Flea Market
Mallrats Chapter 13: Ivannah
Mallrats Chapter 14: Brodie & Stan Lee
Mallrats Chapter 15: Stage Business
Mallrats Chapter 16: Set Up
Mallrats Chapter 17: Happy Endings
Mallrats Chapter 18: End Titles

Saturday - April 17th
Clerks Chapter 1: Dante/Opening Credits (00:00-
Clerks Chapter 2: Vilification
Clerks Chapter 3: Jay And Silent Bob
Clerks Chapter 4: Randal
Clerks Chapter 5: Syntax
Clerks Chapter 6: Vagary
Clerks Chapter 7: Purgation
Clerks Chapter 8: Malaise
Clerks Chapter 9: Harbinger (46:57-53:14)
Clerks - The Lost Scene / Clerks - The Lost Scene
Clerks Chapter 9: Harbinger (53:15-53:37)
Clerks Chapter 10: Perspicacity
Clerks Chapter 11: Paradigm
Clerks Chapter 12: Whimsy
Clerks Chapter 13: Quandary
Clerks Chapter 14: Lamentation
Clerks Chapter 15: Juxtaposition
Clerks Chapter 16: Catharsis
Clerks Chapter 17: Denouement

1995
????
Scream Chapter 1: Program Start
Scream Chapter 2: Opening Credits/Wrong Number
Scream Chapter 3: It's Only Billy
Scream Chapter 4: Sidney's Turn
Scream Chapter 5: Questions
Scream Chapter 6: Story With A Punch
Scream Chapter 7: A Call For Sidney
Scream Chapter 8: Confrontation
Scream Chapter 9: Someone's Knocking
Scream Chapter 10: Beer Bust
Scream Chapter 11: The Rules
Scream Chapter 12: Not The One
Scream Chapter 13: No Help Here
Scream Chapter 14: Final Setup
Scream Chapter 15: Thwarted Plan
Scream Chapter 16: Face-Off

1996
Out of Continuity
Oni Double Feature #12 - "Bluntman and Chronic in the Derris Affair"
Bluntman and Chronic #1-3

February
Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Video Stash

Spring
Chasing Amy Chapter 1: Opening Titles
Chasing Amy Chapter 2: To A Really Big Fan
Chasing Amy Chapter 3: Hooper X
Chasing Amy Chapter 4: Pile Of PMS - Alyssa Jones
Chasing Amy Chapter 5: Shared Moment
Chasing Amy Chapter 6: Redbank, NJ - Bankholdup Studios, 2nd Floor
Chasing Amy Chapter 7: Meow Mix
Chasing Amy Chapter 8: Another Shared Moment
Chasing Amy Chapter 9: War Stories
Chasing Amy Chapter 10: Something More Personal
Chasing Amy Chapter 11: "You Are Such My Bitch"
Chasing Amy Chapter 12: Game of Skill
Chasing Amy Chapter 13: Path of Least Resistance
Chasing Amy Chapter 14: Capture The Moment
Chasing Amy Chapter 15: "Everyone Has An Agenda"
Chasing Amy Chapter 16: The Pronoun Game
Chasing Amy Chapter 17: The One Least Likely
Chasing Amy Chapter 18: "Finger Cuffs"
Chasing Amy Chapter 19: Lesbian Chic
Chasing Amy Chapter 20: Cross Examination
Chasing Amy Chapter 21: The Queen of Suburban Legend
Jay and Silent Bob #1 - "Chasing Dogma" pg. 1-23
Chasing Amy Chapter 22: Bluntman and Chronic
Jay and Silent Bob #1 - "Chasing Dogma" pg. 24-25
Chasing Amy Chapter 23: An Indecent Proposal

1996-1998
Jay and Silent Bob #2-4 - "Chasing Dogma"

1997
Spring
Chasing Amy Chapter 24: A Very Personal Story

April
Scream 2 Chapter 1: Program Start
Scream 2 Chapter 2: Scary Movie
Scream 2 Chapter 3: Opening Credit
Scream 2 Chapter 4: Class Discussion
Scream 2 Chapter 5: Any Comments?
Scream 2 Chapter 6: Cici Check's Out
Scream 2 Chapter 7: Sid's in Trouble
Scream 2 Chapter 8: "I Think I Love You"
Scream 2 Chapter 9: Sequel Rules
Scream 2 Chapter 10: A Few Drawbacks
Scream 2 Chapter 11: Dress Rehearsal
Scream 2 Chapter 12: Killer Calls
Scream 2 Chapter 13: Innocent Man
Scream 2 Chapter 14: Disaster For Dewey
Scream 2 Chapter 15: Saying Good-Bye
Scream 2 Chapter 16: Greek "Torture"
Scream 2 Chapter 17: We'll Have To Kill You
Scream 2 Chapter 18: Running Into Cotton
Scream 2 Chapter 19: Mickey's Madness
Scream 2 Chapter 20: A Surprising Partner

1998
March
Clerks - The Comic Book

April 15th
Dogma Chapter 1: Start
Dogma Chapter 2: Loki & Bartleby
Dogma Chapter 3: The Loophole
Dogma Chapter 4: Bethany
Dogma Chapter 5: Azrael
Dogma Chapter 6: Metatron
Dogma Chapter 7: The Fine Print
Dogma Chapter 8: Jay & Silent Bob
Dogma Chapter 9: John Hughes Fans
Dogma Chapter 10: Adulterer Repent!
Dogma Chapter 11: Rufus
Dogma Chapter 12: 13th Apostle
Dogma Chapter 13: Serendipity
Dogma Chapter 14: Golden Calf Massacre
Dogma Chapter 15: A Muse
Dogma Chapter 16: Golgothan Demon
Dogma Chapter 17: A Warning
Dogma Chapter 18: Bethany & Barry
Dogma Chapter 19: Train Fight
Dogma Chapter 20: Epiphany
Dogma Chapter 21: Jesus' Grandniece
Dogma Chapter 22: Foul Play Afoot
Dogma Chapter 23: Holy Bartender
Dogma Chapter 24: Azrael's Grudge
Dogma Chapter 25: "Take A Shot"
Dogma Chapter 26: "He Just Lost It"
Dogma Chapter 27: God Revealed
Dogma Chapter 28: Miracles

December 16-25
Clerks - Holiday Special

1999
November
Clerks - "On the Perils of Cinema"

2000
January 31 - July 23, 2000
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 1: "Leonardo Leonardo Returns and Dante Has an Important Decision to Make"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 2: "The Clipshow Wherein Dante and Randal are Locked in the Freezer and Remember Some of the Great Moments in Their Lives"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 3: "Leonardo Is Caught in the Grip of an Outbreak of Randal's Imagination and Patrick Swayze Either Does or Doesn't Work in the New Pet Store"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 4: "A Dissertation on the American Justice System by People Who Have Never Been Inside a Courtroom, Let Alone Know Anything About the Law, but Have Seen Way Too Many Legal Thrillers"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 5: "Dante and Randal and Jay and Silent Bob and a Bunch of New Characters and Lando, Take Part in a Whole Bunch of Movie Parodies Including But Not Exclusive to, The Bad News Bears, The Last Starfighter, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Plus a High School Reunion"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 6: "The Last Episode Ever"

Summer
Scream 3 Chapter 1: 100% Cotton
Scream 3 Chapter 2: Where Are They Now?
Scream 3 Chapter 3: "It's Happening Again"
Scream 3 Chapter 4: On The Set
Scream 3 Chapter 5: Mother! Oh God, Mother!
Scream 3 Chapter 6: Unhappy Actress
Scream 3 Chapter 7: Two Different People
Scream 3 Chapter 8: Who Dies Next?
Scream 3 Chapter 9: The Mystery Behind Maureen
Scream 3 Chapter 10: "Someone Wants To Kill My Movie"
Scream 3 Chapter 11: Major Crisis
Scream 3 Chapter 12: "And the Killer Gives Mercy To..."
Scream 3 Chapter 13: Key Element
Scream 3 Chapter 14: Rules Of A Trilogy
Scream 3 Chapter 15: Uncovering The Mystery
Scream 3 Chapter 16: They're Only Souvenirs
Scream 3 Chapter 17: Return To Woodsboro
Scream 3 Chapter 18: The Horror Producer
Scream 3 Chapter 19: And The Trilogy Continues
Scream 3 Chapter 20: It's Party Time
Scream 3 Chapter 21: Stab 3 Back In Production
Scream 3 Chapter 22: Out, Cold!
Scream 3 Chapter 23: Surprise, Sidney
Scream 3 Chapter 24: Welcome To The Final Act
Scream 3 Chapter 25: Hero vs. Villain
Scream 3 Chapter 26: Gottcha!
Scream 3 Chapter 27: Let's Try It Again
Scream 3 Chapter 28: New Beginning

2001
Tuesday, March 18th
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 1: Opening Credits: "A Long Time Ago…" (1:46-4:36)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 2: "Where's Our Mother #*$^!@% Movie Check?" (4:37-11:56)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 3: Living By The Book (11:57-15:19)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 4: Doobie Dreams And Distractions (15:20-16:57)

Wednesday, March 19th
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 4: Doobie Dreams And Distractions (16:58-21:58)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 5: "What Is Your Damage, Little Boy?" (21:59-26:53)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 6: Two Patsies (26:54-30:37)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 7: Stealing The Monkey (30:38-40:08)

Thursday, March 20th
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 8: "The Two Most Dangerous Men On The Planet" (40:09-46:20)

Friday, March 21st
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 9: "Surrender the Orangutan" (46:21-54:04)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 10: Finding Miramax And The Monkey (54:05-57:56)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 11: "Ooh What A Lovely Tea Party" (57:57-1:00:16)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 12: "It's Hunting Season" (1:00:17-1:03:56)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 13: "That's One Funky Monkey" (1:03:57-1:09:44)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 14: "A Gay Hood Ornament And The Color Purple" (1:09:45-1:15:11)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 15: "Crazy Crackers With Guns" (1:15:12-1:23:27)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 16: Kick Some Ass (1:23:28-1:24:31)

????
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 16: Kick Some Ass (1:24:32-1:25:52)

2002
February
Clerks - The Flying Car

????
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 17: "One 90-Minute-Long Gay Joke" (1:25:53-1:27:38)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Chapter 18: End Credits (1:27:39-1:44:18)

2003
????
Clerks - Sell Out Test Footage

2006
February
Clerks - "Where's the Beef?!?"

October
Clerks II Chapter 1: Dante's Inferno
Clerks II Chapter 2: The Sound and Fury
Clerks II Chapter 3: Emma
Clerks II Chapter 4: The Idiot
Clerks II Chapter 5: The Kama Sutra
Clerks II Chapter 6: The Hobbit
Clerks II Chapter 7: Sense and Sensibility
Clerks II Chapter 8: Notes From The Underground
Clerks II Chapter 9: Paradise Lost
Clerks II Chapter 10: Death of a Salesman
Clerks II Chapter 11: The Odyssey
Clerks II Chapter 12: Uncle Tom's Cabin
Clerks II Chapter 13: Romeo And Juliet
Clerks II Chapter 14: The Comedy Of Errors
Clerks II Chapter 15: Animal Farm
Clerks II Chapter 16: Crime And Punishment
Clerks II Chapter 17: A Room Of One's Own

2008
November
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 1: Morning in Monroeville
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 2: Black Friday
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 3: Granny Panties
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 4: What Happened To The Water
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 5: Monroeville High's Class of 1998 10-Year Reunion
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 6: Bobby Long And Brandon Saint Randy
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 7: "We Can Make A Porno!"
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 8: The Proposal
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 9: Securing The Producer
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 10: Finding The Cast
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 11: Pre-Production Meeting
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 12: Star Whores
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 13: Going Down
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 14: Swallow My Cockucinno
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 15: The Morning After
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 16: Zack And Miri Make A Porno
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 17: Wrap Party
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 18: The Test
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 19: Front Street

2009
February
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 20: Three Months Later
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 21: Every Movie Needs An Ending
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 22: Happy Ending
Zack and Miri Make A Porno Chapter 23: Zack And Miri Make YOUR Porno

2010
????
Scream 4

2014
January
Tusk

2016
????
Yoga Hosers

2019
????
Jay and Silent Bob Reboot


Media Guide:
Bold - Feature Film
Italics - Comic Book
Underlined - Animated Series / Film / Short
Regular - Feature Shorts
 
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Viewing/Reading Order:
Oni Double Feature #1 - "Walt Flanagan's Dog"
Mallrats
Clerks
Clerks - The Lost Scene / Clerks - The Lost Scene
Scream
Out of Continuity - Oni Double Feature #12 - "Bluntman and Chronic in the Derris Affair"
Out of Continuity - Bluntman and Chronic #1-3
Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Video Stash
Chasing Amy
Jay and Silent Bob #1-4 - "Chasing Dogma"
Scream 2
Clerks - The Comic Book
Dogma
Clerks - Holiday Special
Clerks - "On the Perils of Cinema"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 1: "Leonardo Leonardo Returns and Dante Has an Important Decision to Make"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 2: "The Clipshow Wherein Dante and Randal are Locked in the Freezer and Remember Some of the Great Moments in Their Lives"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 3: "Leonardo Is Caught in the Grip of an Outbreak of Randal's Imagination and Patrick Swayze Either Does or Doesn't Work in the New Pet Store"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 4: "A Dissertation on the American Justice System by People Who Have Never Been Inside a Courtroom, Let Alone Know Anything About the Law, but Have Seen Way Too Many Legal Thrillers"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 5: "Dante and Randal and Jay and Silent Bob and a Bunch of New Characters and Lando, Take Part in a Whole Bunch of Movie Parodies Including But Not Exclusive to, The Bad News Bears, The Last Starfighter, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Plus a High School Reunion"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 6: "The Last Episode Ever"
Scream 3
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
Clerks - Sell Out Test Footage
Clerks - The Flying Car
Clerks - "Where's the Beef?!?"
Clerks II
Zack and Miri Make A Porno
Scream 4
Tusk
Yoga Hosers
Jay and Silent Bob Reboot
 
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This post is reserved for Timeline Placement Reasoning:

View Askew Jay and Silent Bob Movies
Mallrats
According to the View Askew legend, packaged with DVD copies of Chasing Amy, Mallrats occurs the day after Julie Dwyer dies, and the day before Clerks. Clerks: The Lost scene suggests Julie's death is April 15th, 1994 which makes this movie April 16th. (NOTE: According to the legend, Mallrats occurs on Friday. In the real world, the 16th was Saturday.)

Clerks
According to the View Askew legend, packaged with DVD copies of Chasing Amy, Clerks occurs two days after Julie Dwyer dies, and the day after Mallrats. Clerks: The Lost scene suggests Julie's death is April 15th, 1994 which makes this movie April 17th. (NOTE: According to the legend, Clerks occurs on Saturday. In the real world, the 17th was Sunday.)

Chasing Amy
According to the View Askew legend, Chasing Amy takes place 2 years after Clerks. The opening sequence of this film also includes a ton of promo for Banky, Holden and their "Bluntman and Chronic" comic. Some of these can still be viewed on the View Askew website. Seeing as the most recent instances come from March/Spring 1996, that seems to be the setting. There may be something more concrete in the movie, but I'll need to revisit it.

Dogma
There's plenty of props in the film that suggest 1998. One newspaper is specifically dated April 15th. (See the 13:16 mark of this video). My DVD isn't working properly, so I'm unable to section off specific days any further at the moment. Depending on whether or not the Chasing Dogma comic suggests a shorter time frame between films either Chasing Amy or Dogma may be subject to move. Currently leaning towards it being Chasing Amy as the dates there are seemingly less concrete.

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
March 21st 2001 date can be seen on a clapboard for Good Will Hunting 2 (00:34). Other dates are gotten by working backward from there. We're told what day of the week the movie starts and ends on, and these days don't match the real world calendar dates. The March 20th entry might be a bit off. We're told it's the day after the March 21st entry, but while some characters are stating it's night time, when we get to the girl gang (who were watching the same news report) it's seemingly day time. For now, I'm just chalking this up to time zones.

Clerks II
Dante and Emma's wedding is 3 months away, in January of 2007 (19:51)

Jay and Silent Bob Reboot
Jay suggests that it's been 25 years since Clerks. There's probably other evidence to back this up. I'll add it when the home release is available.

Other Movies
Zack and Miri Make A Porno
Kevin Smith has confirmed that Justin Long reprised the role of Brandon Saint Randy in Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. This movie is set around Thanksgiving/Black Friday, but since we know the days of the week are different in the Askewniverse, the exact date can't be tacked down from that alone. Zack and Miri attend their 10-year high school reunion as part of the class of '98, setting this film in 2008.

Tusk
Date is based on this prop from Yoga Hosers. I lent out my BluRay copy to a friend a while back, and it wasn't returned before I moved across the country, so this is the best I've got for the time being.

Yoga Hosers
Miss McKenzie returns in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Current date is based on release date.

Scream Franchise
Scream
Scream 2 specifically states it's 2 years after the first one.

Scream 2
The movie marquee at the start of the film says it's April 12th 1997 (02:20)

Scream 3
Jay and Silent Bob appear in this movie. Some theorize that it's part of their Hollywood trip in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, but seeing as that film features the filming of the Askewniverse's "Scream 4" it seems unlikely. This does open the door to both "Scream" and "Stab" franchises existing in-universe, but there are real world instances of similar movie franchises, so I don't think it's much of a problem. The current date is based on the Scream Wiki, and not very conclusive.

Scream 4
The current date is based on the Scream Wiki, and not very conclusive.

Animated View Askew
Clerks - The Lost Scene
Same logic as Clerks/Mallrats
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 1: "Leonardo Leonardo Returns and Dante Has an Important Decision to Make"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 2: "The Clipshow Wherein Dante and Randal are Locked in the Freezer and Remember Some of the Great Moments in Their Lives"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 3: "Leonardo Is Caught in the Grip of an Outbreak of Randal's Imagination and Patrick Swayze Either Does or Doesn't Work in the New Pet Store"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 4: "A Dissertation on the American Justice System by People Who Have Never Been Inside a Courtroom, Let Alone Know Anything About the Law, but Have Seen Way Too Many Legal Thrillers"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 5: "Dante and Randal and Jay and Silent Bob and a Bunch of New Characters and Lando, Take Part in a Whole Bunch of Movie Parodies Including But Not Exclusive to, The Bad News Bears, The Last Starfighter, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Plus a High School Reunion"
Clerks - The Animated Series Episode 6: "The Last Episode Ever"
Clerks - Sell Out Test Footage
Out of Continuity - Jay & Silent Bob's Super Groovy Cartoon Movie!

View Askew Comics
Oni Double Feature #1 - "Walt Flanagan's Dog"

Clerks - The Lost Scene
Same logic as Clerks/Mallrats

Out of Continuity - Oni Double Feature #12 - "Bluntman and Chronic in the Derris Affair"
Out of Continuity - Bluntman and Chronic #1-3
Jay and Silent Bob #1-4 - "Chasing Dogma"
Clerks - The Comic Book
Clerks - Holiday Special
Clerks - "On the Perils of Cinema"
Clerks - "Where's the Beef?!?"

Other
Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Video Stash
Clerks - The Flying Car
Jay and Silent Bob MTV Shorts
Jay and Silent Bob Rename Your Favorite TV Show
I Love the '90s: Part Deux
Jay and Silent Bob Go Canadian, Eh?
Jay and Silent Bob VR
 
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So the Scream franchise, the True North Trilogy and Madness in the Method is in this universe. Might want to add Drawing Flies too. I've looked and I can't see anything dictating Zack and Miri Make A Porno as part of this universe, I only see it being called the second View Askew Production not connected.
 
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So the Scream franchise, the True North Trilogy and Madness in the Method is in this universe. Might want to add Drawing Files too. I've looked and I can't see anything dictating Zack and Miri Make A Porno as part of this universe, I only see it being called the second View Askew Production not connected.
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Madness in the Method is a bit iffy. Looking at the trailer, it's about Jason Mewes being type cast as Jay, but I'm also seeing reporting that the characters of Jay and Silent Bob pop in as the characters. This could work seeing as most of the Askewniverse movies exist within their world as films, but I've yet to watch this one so I'm not so sure about it.

Zack and Miri got brought in via Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. Justin Long reprises the role of Brandon Saint Randy, and while he wasn't named on screen, this was confirmed by Smith (2:50)

 
iammattie said:
Madness in the Method is a bit iffy. Looking at the trailer, it's about Jason Mewes being type cast as Jay, but I'm also seeing reporting that the characters of Jay and Silent Bob pop in as the characters. This could work seeing as most of the Askewniverse movies exist within their world as films, but I've yet to watch this one so I'm not so sure about it.

Zack and Miri got brought in via Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. Justin Long reprises the role of Brandon Saint Randy, and while he wasn't named on screen, this was confirmed by Smith (2:50)

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What about Drawing Flies?
www.wikiwand.com

View Askewniverse - Wikiwand articles

The View Askewniverse is a fictional universe created by writer/director Kevin Smith, featured in several films, comics and a television series; it is named for...
www.wikiwand.com
Much of the cast of Mallrats featured in a simultaneous View Askew Productions film titled, Drawing Flies. A couple of actors portray the same characters, with Kevin Smith credited as Silent Bob. Smith also wore the same wardrobe within the two films.
 
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What about Drawing Files?
www.wikiwand.com

View Askewniverse - Wikiwand articles

The View Askewniverse is a fictional universe created by writer/director Kevin Smith, featured in several films, comics and a television series; it is named for...
www.wikiwand.com
Much of the cast of Mallrats featured in a simultaneous View Askew Productions film titled, Drawing Flies. A couple of actors portray the same characters, with Kevin Smith credited as Silent Bob. Smith also wore the same wardrobe within the two films.
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Sounds like it's possible. I havent ever seen it, but I think it's all clipped up on youtube so I'll try to give it a look
 
I just scanned through the youtube clips and cant find Smith's scene, I think they were all uploaded when youtube only allowed videos to be so long, so it looks as if it's not entirely the full movie. Everything I'm seeing though says he's referred to as John within the narrative, so for now I think it's safe enough to pass over it until a more concrete connection is established
 
My copy of Chasing Amy was missing the insert that's supposed to come with it, so I didn't know this existed until recently. Was able to get ahold of a copy from Goodwill, so here's a scan. Looks like Mallrats was officially retconned to be the day before Clerks (so Randall is just wrong about Julie having died the night before in that film). Also, the mention of it being Saturday in Mallrats apparently only shows up in the extended cut, so that works out. This also solidifies Chasing Amy being 2 years after Clerks/Mallrats, so that makes me feel better about the 94/96 dates (some folks put the first 2 in 95 for some reason.)

94 also works best with Dante's graduation. Since the legend marks early graduations (See: Tricia Jones), this means Dante was 17 or 18 when he graduated in '88, giving him a 1970 or 1971 birth year. He's 22 in the film, so 1970 doesn't work, but 1971 does if we assume that he hasn't passed his birthday yet. This means he graduates at 17 years old, which confirms he has a summer birthday and thus would be turning 23 after the events of Clerks (In April).
 

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Amazon description from the Drawing Flies bluray suggests Smith is in fact Silent Bob. It looks like it was released through Smodcast so that may be the official word.

Amazon.com: Drawing Flies: Anniversary Edition [Blu-ray] : Jason Lee, Jason Mewes, Martin Brooks, Carmen Lee, Renee Humphrey, Kevin Smith, Ethan Suplee, Scott Mosier, Joey Lauren Adams, Matt Gissing, Malcolm Ingram: Movies & TV

Amazon.com: Drawing Flies: Anniversary Edition [Blu-ray] : Jason Lee, Jason Mewes, Martin Brooks, Carmen Lee, Renee Humphrey, Kevin Smith, Ethan Suplee, Scott Mosier, Joey Lauren Adams, Matt Gissing, Malcolm Ingram: Movies & TV
www.amazon.com
 
For the sake of completion, should we add YouTube videos where Smith and Mewes reprise their roles?




There are probably more, but I just came across these two
 
Removed Madness in The Method from the "other movies" section. Watched it last night and any footage of Jay and Silent Bob was archive from the other films. Kevin Smith plays himself in the film and directly says he created the character of Jay due to inspiration from Jason Mewes so unlike how some of the films exist within the askewniverse that cant be the case here.
 
Well, even if this thread it's abandoned, the synopsis says that Scream (2022) takes place 25 years after Scream (1996) AKA 1995, so 2020, and since a telephone on the film says "9/23", it should take place around September 2020, like on September 24th i think so
 
I wouldn't really consider the Scream films as part of the universe. At one point a Clerks VHS can be seen confirming that movie exists as part of the Scream universe. I think the cameo from Scream 3 wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Especially when we see them making a Scream sequel (rather than what would be Stab) in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. BTW, here's my personal timeline for Scream:

Scream- Late September 1996. We can see a calendar for September 1996 at Stu's home and it makes sense they got the costume at a time when costumes like Ghostface would be easily available and hard to trace (close to Halloween).

Scream 2- April 1998. The movie mentions how it's been a couple of years since the original. While there's an April 1997 date on the marquee, this is just from when the movie was filmed. I do feel however that the month can still work.

Scream 3 Late 1999. Roman mentions to Sidney that he found Maureen 4 years ago, a year before the events of the first movie. The movie is placed late in the year in order to give time for Stab 2 to release and for Stab 3 to begin production (remember Stab was released in April 1998).

Scream 4- Late September 2011. The movie falls on the anniversary of the original murders and in Scream (2022), it's mentioned these events happened in 2011. Making the movie 15 years after the original.

Scream (2022)- Late September 2021. The reporter at the end of the movie says it's almost to the exact day of the original murders and a phone shows the date of 9/23 at one point. Making the movie 25 years after the original.
 
FrankandJoe said:
Any chance this gets updated to include the new scream, clerks 3 and drawing flies
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View Anskew/Scream/Zack and Miri/True North Timeline
1994 - Mallrats
1994 - Clerks
1994 - Clerks: The Lost Scene
1996 - Chasing Amy
1996 - Scream (1996)
1998 - Jay and Silent Bob MTV Shorts
1998 - Dogma
1998 - Scream 2
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x01, "Leonardo Leonardo Returns and Dante Has an Important Decision to Make"
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x02, "The Clipshow Wherein Dante and Randal are Locked in the Freezer and Remember Some of the Great Moments in Their Lives"
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x03, "Leonardo Is Caught in the Grip of an Outbreak of Randal's Imagination and Patrick Swayze Either Does or Doesn't Work in the New Pet Store"
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x04, "A Dissertation on the American Justice System by People Who Have Never Been Inside a Courtroom, Let Alone Know Anything About the Law, but Have Seen Way Too Many Legal Thrillers""
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x05, "Dante and Randal and Jay and Silent Bob and a Bunch of New Characters and Lando, Take Part in a Whole Bunch of Movie Parodies Including But Not Exclusive to, The Bad News Bears, The Last Starfighter, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Plus a High School Reunion"
2000 - Clerks: The Animated Series 1x06, "The Last Episode Ever"
2000 - Scream 3
2001 - Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
2002 - Clerks: The Flying Car
2003 - Clerks: Sell Out
2006 - Clerks II
2008 - Zack and Miri Make a Porno
2011 - Scream 4
2014 - Tusk
2015 - Scream 1x01, "Pilot"
2015 - Scream 1x02, "Hello, Emma"
2015 - Scream 1x03, "Wanna Play a Game?"
2015 - Scream 1x04, "Aftermath"
2015 - Scream 1x05, "Exposed"
2015 - Scream 1x06, "Betrayed"
2015 - Scream 1x07, "In the Trenches"
2015 - Scream 1x08, "Ghosts"
2015 - Scream 1x09, "The Dance"
2015 - Scream 1x10, "Revelations"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Noah, "Welcome to the Morgue"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Kieran, "Thank You Lakewood"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Jake, "I Hope I Live"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Emma, "One Surprise Left"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Brooke, "Thanks For Seeing The Real Me"
2016 - Scream: If I Die: Audrey, "I Love All Of You... Mostly"
2016 - Scream 2x01, "I Know What You Did Last Summer"
2016 - Scream 2x02, "Psycho"
2016 - Scream 2x03, "Vacancy"
2016 - Scream 2x04, "Happy Birthday to Me"
2016 - Scream 2x05, "Dawn of the Dead"
2016 - Scream 2x06, "Jeepers Creepers"
2016 - Scream 2x07, "Let the Right One In"
2016 - Scream 2x08, "Village of the Damned"
2016 - Scream 2x09, "The Orphanage"
2016 - Scream 2x10, "The Vanishing"
2016 - Scream 2x11, "Heavenly Creatures"
2016 - Scream 2x12, "When a Stranger Calls"
2016 - Yoga Hosers
2016 - Scream 2x13, "Halloween"
2016 - Scream 2x14, "Halloween II"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x01, "The Deadfast Club"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x02, "Devil's Night"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x03, "The Man Behind the Mask"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x04, "Ports in the Storm"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x05, "Blindspots"
2018 - Scream: Resurrection 3x06, "Endgame"
2019 - Jay and Silent Bob Reboot
2021 - Clerks III
2022 - Scream (2022)
2023 - Scream VI: House Call
2023 - Calm Sleep Stories: Ghostface's 'Rules for a Good Night's Rest'
2023 - Scream VI

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Heck, throw in the Scream TV series too. It's set in a different part of the world so it wouldn't have any connections, and the third season is a separate story that literally features the Ghostface mask and voice.
 
Rman said:
I wouldn't really consider the Scream films as part of the universe. At one point a Clerks VHS can be seen confirming that movie exists as part of the Scream universe. I think the cameo from Scream 3 wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Especially when we see them making a Scream sequel (rather than what would be Stab) in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
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1. Mallrats and Dogma exist as in-universe movies in the View Askewniverse. Why not Clerks? Heck, Clerks: The Animated Series implies that both Clerks and an animated series exist, although that series is very meta and confusing.

2. I didn't see them state that they were making a Scream movie in the actual film. Let's say they were, the Woodsboro Murders are public domain. Why can't there be Scream and Stab movies in the Scream universe?

3. You say not to take it seriously, but Jay literally called him "Silent Bob" AND they appear on the credits as Silent Bob/Kevin Smith and Jay/Jason Mewes, meaning that they are 100% the same characters. Whether they are the same versions from their films is the question, but I don't really get any indication otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I see View Anskew, Scream, Zack and Miri and True North as separate film series. Logically they should occur in the same universe, but they don't crossover. It does mean that the victims in Scream would go to a Heaven with a God that looks like Alanis Morissette though, lol. Don't overthink it.
 
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