I realised in the MCU thread this might go off-topic if I continued so I thought I'd make a thread :
One more may not have flat out erased but look at him now.
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/01/Amazing-Spider-Man-1.jpg
He seems younger more immature (he even moved back with Aunt may) and characters like harry osborn just returned from the dead. It's as if all the character development and the heart was removed. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion here or not but one more day / brand new day was the start of the decline of how spider-man was treated. It was as if instead of devoice they removed or at least messed up the continuity in a really bad way. Bad as a) it was not needed b) was confusing and c) making a deal with the devil is not great responsibility IMO
That's not true companies do try to push one character down (in this case Spider-man) in order to make another look better (iron man in this case) and some stuff with it was good but
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/01/sup6.jpg
Come on! Tease MJ (WHICH THEY ANNOYED PEOPLE BY REMOVING) and show Pet's ghost suffering as we keep getting told the new one is Superior, ironically I think they have wanted us to think otherwise but it came across as a big middle finger to spider-man fans. I mean look at this
http://www.mandatory.com/2013/08/20/the-10-worst-changes-to-spider-man-in-the-comics/11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day#Reception
Already this + the rest are appearing all over as the dumbest things in spider-man. Even beating clone saga + maximum carnage. I really can't see it been that accidental even more so when we see how they treat people not in marvel movies (see MCU post)
Not true. Lots of cartoons do not feel that way. Example Super Hero Squad was fun. My nephew use to love Spider-man he loved spectacular. Ultimate came on and he no longer likes Spider-man. He moved to Ninja turtles and power rangers.
I think a lot of this is down to the writing and presentation. It's like Community + Family Guy are both adult shows. Family guy however is so dumb. Ultimate is presented like family guy for kids. It goes typical scene : Story - break forth wall - pop culture reference - story to the point of turning spider-man into deadpool meets family that's just bad. The art on the show looks great though but the rest.... yeah
Spider-man use to be the underdog, the every man. The stories were about a real subject like his aunt's sick then add the spider-man elements so it became an every man with power. Now hos stories seem to be shock and awe for the sake of it (as are alot of marvel ones now but thats off topic). Like how the saw sequels were just gore for gore's sake. Spider-man was so much more than just "casual shock" They make money but that does not mean it's good. Transformers 2 to 4 made lots of money but they are terrible.
It feels to me like spider-man has been pushed aside and I know it may be geeky but that makes me sad. Honestly though I think it's right to feel that. It's like people have sports teams they remember the statistics and they feel sad if their team preforms badly. That is the same way I feel us "nerds" feel imo about or stuff we love it when Spider-man has a story like Kraven's Last Hunt and we feel bad when we get given the current product.
I'm not sure if on here im alone in this or not but me and my friends all use to go the comic store together. Spider-man was the one title we all bought. Now we look at it like we look at twlight and such and no one picks it up. Everyone was team marvel now everyone is team DC and I don't know if it is Disney's involvement , If it's the fact the movies are now treated better than the comics , a combo of both or if just the guy in charge of marvel hates spider-man. But i am curious what you all think.
Spider-Man did not get his continuity erased in One More Day, which I believe is what you mean. Everything that happened with Spider-Man after he was initially married to Mary Jane still happened, just with him and MJ as a couple or whatever, to a point where they eventually broke up.
One more may not have flat out erased but look at him now.
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/01/Amazing-Spider-Man-1.jpg
He seems younger more immature (he even moved back with Aunt may) and characters like harry osborn just returned from the dead. It's as if all the character development and the heart was removed. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion here or not but one more day / brand new day was the start of the decline of how spider-man was treated. It was as if instead of devoice they removed or at least messed up the continuity in a really bad way. Bad as a) it was not needed b) was confusing and c) making a deal with the devil is not great responsibility IMO
they didn't make anything with Superior so people wouldn't like it. No one does anything like that on purpose. And in fact, Superior Spider-Man was a big success for Marvel and made that 'version' of Spider-Man quite popular. Some things that were done with him were really quite smart and ingenious.
That's not true companies do try to push one character down (in this case Spider-man) in order to make another look better (iron man in this case) and some stuff with it was good but
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/01/sup6.jpg
Come on! Tease MJ (WHICH THEY ANNOYED PEOPLE BY REMOVING) and show Pet's ghost suffering as we keep getting told the new one is Superior, ironically I think they have wanted us to think otherwise but it came across as a big middle finger to spider-man fans. I mean look at this
http://www.mandatory.com/2013/08/20/the-10-worst-changes-to-spider-man-in-the-comics/11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day#Reception
Already this + the rest are appearing all over as the dumbest things in spider-man. Even beating clone saga + maximum carnage. I really can't see it been that accidental even more so when we see how they treat people not in marvel movies (see MCU post)
The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon may feel dumb to you, but what do you expect when they are purposely making the cartoon for little kids? Of course something like that will feel dumb to adults.
Not true. Lots of cartoons do not feel that way. Example Super Hero Squad was fun. My nephew use to love Spider-man he loved spectacular. Ultimate came on and he no longer likes Spider-man. He moved to Ninja turtles and power rangers.
I think a lot of this is down to the writing and presentation. It's like Community + Family Guy are both adult shows. Family guy however is so dumb. Ultimate is presented like family guy for kids. It goes typical scene : Story - break forth wall - pop culture reference - story to the point of turning spider-man into deadpool meets family that's just bad. The art on the show looks great though but the rest.... yeah
Spider-man use to be the underdog, the every man. The stories were about a real subject like his aunt's sick then add the spider-man elements so it became an every man with power. Now hos stories seem to be shock and awe for the sake of it (as are alot of marvel ones now but thats off topic). Like how the saw sequels were just gore for gore's sake. Spider-man was so much more than just "casual shock" They make money but that does not mean it's good. Transformers 2 to 4 made lots of money but they are terrible.
It feels to me like spider-man has been pushed aside and I know it may be geeky but that makes me sad. Honestly though I think it's right to feel that. It's like people have sports teams they remember the statistics and they feel sad if their team preforms badly. That is the same way I feel us "nerds" feel imo about or stuff we love it when Spider-man has a story like Kraven's Last Hunt and we feel bad when we get given the current product.
I'm not sure if on here im alone in this or not but me and my friends all use to go the comic store together. Spider-man was the one title we all bought. Now we look at it like we look at twlight and such and no one picks it up. Everyone was team marvel now everyone is team DC and I don't know if it is Disney's involvement , If it's the fact the movies are now treated better than the comics , a combo of both or if just the guy in charge of marvel hates spider-man. But i am curious what you all think.