Timeline Hub

[Megatron]

I am going to start a timeline, but if anyone has a better idea, feel free to start your own timeline.

Good luck Mr. Jozaca. Since I am a fan, I will certanly help you out. If you need.

 

[Pro Bot]

I don't really know where to ask this, and I don't want to start a new thread.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tina_Minoru_(Earth-199999)Do you guys view Tina Minoru in Doctor Strange as a different character to the version seen in Runaways or the same? Kevin Feige stated that the Doctor Strange character was just an easter egg and the Runaways creators say that the Doctor Strange version has no baring on them, but the Prelude confirms the same name. Also, later seasons kinda make it make sense, since Tina recognises the Dark Dimension corruption in Nico's eyes, and she was at the Hong Kong Sanctum during Kaecilius' attack. I do believe that, officially, they're separate characters. It's messier like that to me though. Two separate magical characters with the same name with their own staff of one in the same universe?

The Marvel wiki actually combines the characters, which, if nothing else, makes for an interesting read. Since we only see her only briefly in Doctor Strange and its Prelude comic, it doesn't really present any huge issues for me. That's just my take though.

 

[Pro Bot]

I was thinking about the John Wick timeline (ignoring Payday, lol). Are there any dates throughout the series? Each film takes place consecutively.

So, either they're set in 2014 or 2023 maybe?

197? - The Continental Season 1
???? - John Wick
20?? - John Wick: Hex
2014 - John Wick
2014 - John Wick: Chronicles: An Eye for An Eye
2014 - John Wick: Chapter 2
2014 - John Wick: Chapter 3: Parabellum
2014 - Ballerina
2014 - John Wick: Chapter 4
202? - John Wick: Chapter 5

Oh, if that Atomic Blonde crossover ever happened, that's set in 1989. I doubt it though.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Out of curiosity, has anyone considered doing a timeline for the 24 series? Given that the show takes place in real-time (each episode being set within an hour), would be interesting to see, especially with the various novels, comics and even PS2 game.

 

[proudhug]

Out of curiosity, has anyone considered doing a timeline for the 24 series? Given that the show takes place in real-time (each episode being set within an hour), would be interesting to see, especially with the various novels, comics and even PS2 game.

Yes, we did one back in the day on the 24 Wiki. (https://24.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline) I also did a lot of work on a much more detailed one, but never finished it, sadly. The show has a sliding timescale, where each season takes place more than a year after the previous season (sometimes several years), yet it always takes place in the "present", so we went with a "relative" timeline for the Wiki. All novels, comics and short films are included as well.

 

[Lucid_Dreamer]

I don't really know where to ask this, and I don't want to start a new thread.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tina_Minoru_(Earth-199999)Do you guys view Tina Minoru in Doctor Strange as a different character to the version seen in Runaways or the same? Kevin Feige stated that the Doctor Strange character was just an easter egg and the Runaways creators say that the Doctor Strange version has no baring on them, but the Prelude confirms the same name. Also, later seasons kinda make it make sense, since Tina recognises the Dark Dimension corruption in Nico's eyes, and she was at the Hong Kong Sanctum during Kaecilius' attack. I do believe that, officially, they're separate characters. It's messier like that to me though. Two separate magical characters with the same name with their own staff of one in the same universe?

The Marvel wiki actually combines the characters, which, if nothing else, makes for an interesting read. Since we only see her only briefly in Doctor Strange and its Prelude comic, it doesn't really present any huge issues for me. That's just my take though.

the whole Tina Minoru thing is one of those problems where I end up making a fan theory that is wildly more complex then it needs to be.

Since when Tina sees her daughter do the "Crispy eyes" thing she implies shes seen it before. She also seems to be younger in the first doctor strange movie which is a bit of a conflict. I used to have this whole idea about how she was sent back in time due to timestone shenanigans, but I think the simpler theory was that Tina was "moonlighting" between her roles as guardian at Kamar-Taj and CEO of Wizard Computers. Which is a hell of a schedule to keep, but comic book characters arent exactly strangers to ridiculously busy schedules. The difference in looks can be attributed to her using magic to change her appearance, either out of vanity or to keep her "secret identity" of CEO of Wizard computers hidden.

That being said, since we see a lot more of Tina in Runaways and she never mentions her role of guardian, so I also assume she would have left her role at Kamar-Taj sometime after the Dr Strange movie. Maybe she rejected Dr Strange being appointed Sorcerer Supreme, or maybe she was concerned that her role with the Pride would be discovered.

 

[Pro Bot]

Renfield is an alternate sequel to Dracula (1931), interestingly.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/

But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of Bumblebee, Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between '94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, "It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…" At first, they're like, "Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?" And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.

Told you Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts was part of the Bayverse. Now... how did Unicron merge with Earth? Lol

 

[Megatron]

https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/
Told you Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts was part of the Bayverse. Now... how did Unicron merge with Earth? Lol

I Hope It Isn't true, but we will see.

 

[Jozaca]

I Hope It Isn't true, but we will see.

Why you don't want that?

 

[Megatron]

Optimus compassion is always at the center of his charachter, having him become the brutal killing machine he is in the bay movies is like killing the charachter. Infact if you search for Bob Budiansky original charachter profile for Optimus from back in the 80s, in the weakness section, after the physical ones he write this: "Otherwise, the only weakness he could be accused of having is being too compassionate and concerned about the safety of others. He would be a more effective military commander if he were more ruthless, but then he wouldn't be Optimus Prime".

 

[Pro Bot]

https://collider.com/renfield-dracula-1931-sequel-chris-mckay-comments/

"I kept telling marketing that that's what we should say, that this is the only direct sequel. I guess you could argue 'Dracula's Daughter' is a sequel because the opening scene is the aftermath of the Tod Browning movie, but Bela Lugosi's not in it, it's a whole different set of characters. And it's a great movie, it's wild if you haven't seen it. I thought the movie was great. But to me, this is the only real direct sequel with the Dracula and the Renfield of that movie. So yeah, I wish they'd use that in the marketing. I think that would've been a funny way of positioning this movie. The longest time between the original movie and the sequel, beating 'Psycho,' or whatever. I guess 'Avatar' maybe now, since it feels like a long time since the first one."

 

[Pro Bot]

https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/
Told you Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts was part of the Bayverse. Now... how did Unicron merge with Earth? Lol

???? - Transformers One
1987 - Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7
1987 - Bumblebee
1989 - Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome
1994 - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
2000 - 28 Days
2003 - Transformers: Beginnings
2007 - Transformers
2008 - Friday the 13th
2009 - Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2018 - Transformers: Age of Extinction
2023 - Transformers: The Last Knight

Notes:
-Yes, I'm including 28 Days and Friday the 13th in this listing. You can't stop me! Muhahahaha!

-The tie-in comics take place in an alternate timeline where only the first three movies are canon apparently. I guess the Bumblebee prequel comic would fit here maybe (?), though it connects with The Last Knight's depiction of Bumblebee being on Earth since WW2.

 

[Megatron]

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???? - Transformers One
1987 - Bumblebee
1987 - Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7
1989 - Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome
1994 - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
2000 - 28 Days
2003 - Transformers: Beginnings
2007 - Transformers
2008 - Friday the 13th
2009 - Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2010 - Transformers: Cyber Missions 1x01-1x13
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2018 - Transformers: Age of Extinction
2023 - Transformers: The Last Knight

Notes:
-Yes, I'm including 28 Days and Friday the 13th in this listing. You can't stop me! Muhahahaha!

-The tie-in comics take place in an alternate timeline where only the first three movies are canon apparently. I guess the Bumblebee prequel comic would fit here maybe (?), though it connects with The Last Knight's depiction of Bumblebee being on Earth since WW2.

Cyber Missions is in the expanded live-action universe. The main one has only the movies. IDK what is agent Burns and beginnings, but Sector 7 adventures might be canon if the fact thet Bumblebee wasn't a reboot is true.

 

[Pro Bot]

Cyber Missions is in the expanded live-action universe. The main one has only the movies. IDK what is agent Burns and beginnings, but Sector 7 adventures might be canon if the fact thet Bumblebee wasn't a reboot is true.

I just saw that it featured Lockdown, so yeah. That makes sense. Transformers: Beginnings might be part of the Expanded Live-Action Universe too.

Bumblebee had a prequel comic as well, but he was on Earth between 1945-1987 in that comic since it was based on an earlier version. In the canon, Bumblebee must have returned to Cybertron before reaching Earth again in 1987, since apparently Bumblebee and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts are still connected officially.

 

[Megatron]

I just saw that it featured Lockdown, so yeah. That makes sense. Transformers: Beginnings might be part of the Expanded Live-Action Universe too.

Bumblebee had a prequel comic based on an earlier version of the film as well, but he was on Earth between 1945-1987 in that comic since it was based on an earlier version. In the canon, Bumblebee must have returned to Cybertron before reaching Earth again in 1987, since apparently Bumblebee and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts are still connected officially.

and agent burns?

 

[Pro Bot]

and agent burns?

It's a short video on the home release of Bumblebee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(film_series)Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7 (2019)
A short released as an in-universe orientation video, of Agent Burns addressing new hires.

 

[Megatron]

View attachment 1071

???? - Transformers One
1987 - Bumblebee
1987 - Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7
1989 - Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome
1994 - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
2000 - 28 Days
2003 - Transformers: Beginnings
2007 - Transformers
2008 - Friday the 13th
2009 - Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2013 - Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2018 - Transformers: Age of Extinction
2023 - Transformers: The Last Knight

Notes:
-Yes, I'm including 28 Days and Friday the 13th in this listing. You can't stop me! Muhahahaha!

-The tie-in comics take place in an alternate timeline where only the first three movies are canon apparently. I guess the Bumblebee prequel comic would fit here maybe (?), though it connects with The Last Knight's depiction of Bumblebee being on Earth since WW2.

oh and with the Dark of the movie prequel game is a mistery, it contradicts the prequel comics so it isn't in the expanded universe, but seems to coontradict the movies too, don't remember but one guy in the tf wiki asked about this and Chris (the guy who do the basics) says it isn't canon in the main movie universe. (I personally didn't find any, telling only for advise you)

 

[Megatron]

It's a short video on the home release of Bumblebee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(film_series)Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7 (2019)
A short released as an in-universe orientation video, of Agent Burns addressing new hires.

also saw a possible shared universe with G. I. Joe (not a new thing in the franchaise) but anyway, it's canon?

 

[Megatron]

It's a short video on the home release of Bumblebee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(film_series)Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7 (2019)
A short released as an in-universe orientation video, of Agent Burns addressing new hires.

could it be in the Sector 7 ARG timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

oh and with the Dark of the movie prequel game is a mistery, it contradicts the prequel comics so it isn't in the expanded universe, but seems to coontradict the movies too, don't remember but one guy in the tf wiki asked about this and Chris (the guy who do the basics) says it isn't canon in the main movie universe. (I personally didn't find any, telling only for advise you)

I think it says that they haven't seen any Deceptions for 3 years or something along those lines, implying that it's 3 years after ROTF rather than 4 years.

 

[Pro Bot]

could it be in the Sector 7 ARG timeline?

Probably not. I doubt that would be the intention anyway.

 

[Pro Bot]

I'm not working on a detailed timeline or anything, but this is what I've gathered from a quick glance here and there.

65,000,000 B.C.
????
Transformers: Age of Extinction (Flashback)

17,000 B.C
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Flashback)

484
????
Transformers: The Last Knight (Flashback)

1641 [Canon Disputed]
????
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra (Flashback)

1897
September 7
Transformers (Flashback)

1945
????
Transformers: The Last Knight (Flashback)

1961
????
Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Flashback)

1969
July 16
Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Flashback)

197?
????
28 Days (Flashback)

1980
June 13
Friday the 13th: Killer Cut (Flashback)

1987
????
Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7
Bumblebee

1989
????
Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome

1994
????
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

2000
????
28 Days

2007
May-June
Transformers

2008
May-June
Friday the 13th: Killer Cut

2009
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

2010
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

2013
????
Transformers: Dark of the Moon

2018
????
Transformers: Age of Extinction

2021 [Canon Disputed]
????
Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins

2023
????
Transformers: The Last Knight

20?? [Canon Disputed]
????
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
G.I. Joe: Retaliation

 

[Megatron]

If I can make a suggestion I would wait for rise of the beasts to come out, if the movie proves that the prequel route it's true, then if you want you can make a timeline, since I will do this in the far future I will certanly start with the expanded universe one. If you make the timeline can I use it for the Multiverse Order I did for Transformers?

 

[Pro Bot]

https://collider.com/renfield-dracula-1931-sequel-chris-mckay-comments/

Looking back at this, it's possible he's saying that this is the only "direct" sequel. Dracula's Daughter doesn't feature Dracula. Son of Dracula doesn't feature Dracula. The only films that feature Dracula after the 1931 film are crossovers like House of Frankenstein.

Now, Renfield isn't present in those films since he was supposed to be dead in the 1931 film, so that would be an issue. Renfield appears to retcon it so that Dracula let him live to serve.

Other than that, there's a possibility all these films are the same universe.
1899 - Frankenstein
1899 - The Bride of Frankenstein
1931 - Dracula
1931 - Dracula's Daughter
1931 - The Invisible Man
1935 - Werewolf of London
1939 - Son of Frankenstein
1939 - The Wolf Man
1940 - The Invisible Man Returns
1940 - The Invisible Woman
1941 - Invisible Agent
1942 - The Ghost of Frankenstein
1943 - Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man
1943 - Son of Dracula
1944 - House of Frankenstein
1944 - The Invisible Man's Revenge
1946 - House of Dracula
1948 - Meet Frankenstein
1951 - Meet the Invisible Man
2023 - Renfield

Technically speaking, if we include novel crossovers as canon then The Mummy's Hand series is canon. Then, if we include the sequel mobile game that you can't even find anymore of The Mummy (2017), then The Mummy/Scorpion King films are canon because that game crosses over with The Mummy's Hand. The Mummy (2017) had references to the Creature from the Black Lagoon so that would be canon too. The longest running shared universe, lol.

 

[Pro Bot]

If I can make a suggestion I would wait for rise of the beasts to come out, if the movie proves that the prequel route it's true, then if you want you can make a timeline, since I will do this in the far future I will certanly start with the expanded universe one. If you make the timeline can I use it for the Multiverse Order I did for Transformers?

I'm not making any timeline of it right now, but sure. If I did make one, of course you can.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Cyber Missions is in the expanded live-action universe. The main one has only the movies. IDK what is agent Burns and beginnings, but Sector 7 adventures might be canon if the fact thet Bumblebee wasn't a reboot is true.

Yup Cyber Missions is canon, it is set after Revenge of the Fallen funny enough. https://bwspotlight.com/2019/10/19/...e-transformers-cyber-missions/comment-page-1/

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

It's a short video on the home release of Bumblebee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(film_series)Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7 (2019)
A short released as an in-universe orientation video, of Agent Burns addressing new hires.

It is funny to see someone using the thing I wrote (with sources + I own Bumblebee on Blu-ray) on wikipedia, yeah of course it was proofread by someone else, english is not my first language, but yeah

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Looking back at this, it's possible he's saying that this is the only "direct" sequel. Dracula's Daughter doesn't feature Dracula. Son of Dracula doesn't feature Dracula. The only films that feature Dracula after the 1931 film are crossovers like House of Frankenstein.

Now, Renfield isn't present in those films since he was supposed to be dead in the 1931 film, so that would be an issue. Renfield appears to retcon it so that Dracula let him live to serve.

Other than that, there's a possibility all these films are the same universe.
1899 - Frankenstein
1899 - The Bride of Frankenstein
1931 - Dracula
1931 - Dracula's Daughter
1931 - The Invisible Man
1935 - Werewolf of London
1939 - Son of Frankenstein
1939 - The Wolf Man
1940 - The Invisible Man Returns
1940 - The Invisible Woman
1941 - Invisible Agent
1942 - The Ghost of Frankenstein
1943 - Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man
1943 - Son of Dracula
1944 - House of Frankenstein
1944 - The Invisible Man's Revenge
1946 - House of Dracula
1948 - Meet Frankenstein
1951 - Meet the Invisible Man
2023 - Renfield

Technically speaking, if we include novel crossovers as canon then The Mummy's Hand series is canon. Then, if we include the sequel mobile game that you can't even find anymore of The Mummy (2017), then The Mummy/Scorpion King films are canon because that game crosses over with The Mummy's Hand. The Mummy (2017) had references to the Creature from the Black Lagoon so that would be canon too. The longest running shared universe, lol.

This is the longest running cinematic universe... wow

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Is someone doing a Blair Witch timeline?