Transformers Movie Universe - Timeline

[Pro Bot]

Does anyone actually know where I could find the Titan comics in general? I know that even if it's impossible to fit entirely within the IDW/Movie timeline, the original 2007 run is still mostly canon according to the wiki.

 

[Pro Bot]

The "IDW canon" ones that the wiki agrees on was reprinted by IDW as Transformers: Saga of the Allspark, so at least I can include those entries. The last one is apparently weird because it suggests Barricade died in the film, which is ignored by both the IDW series and Titan's future releases. Maybe it's a sequel to only the comic book adaptation of Transformers, or maybe Barricade shares his name and look with another Deception. Ultimately, #1-7 are definitely canon while #8 is dubious (I'll try).

 

[Megatron]

The "IDW canon" ones that the wiki agrees on was reprinted by IDW as Transformers: Saga of the Allspark, so at least I can include those entries. The last one is apparently weird because it suggests Barricade died in the film, which is ignored by both the IDW series and Titan's future releases. Maybe it's a sequel to only the comic book adaptation of Transformers, or maybe Barricade shares his name and look with another Deception. Ultimately, #1-7 are definitely canon while #8 is dubious (I'll try).

well, Barricade died in Dark of the Moon, but he is alive and well in The Last Knight, so I think we can ignore this problem.

 

[Megatron]

Does anyone actually know where I could find the Titan comics in general? I know that even if it's impossible to fit entirely within the IDW/Movie timeline, the original 2007 run is still mostly canon according to the wiki.

The Wiki started a campaign involving everyone who has the titan comics to scan them, to not made them become "lost media".

Here there is what we have left

https://mega.nz/folder/WJRXma4K#ME1APwa5W35JK9_ZZtY_gw/folder/6cpRyaLS

 

[Megatron]

The Wiki started a campaign involving everyone who has the titan comics to scan them, to not made them become "lost media".

Here there is what we have left

https://mega.nz/folder/WJRXma4K#ME1APwa5W35JK9_ZZtY_gw/folder/6cpRyaLS

if i were u, i would use the wiki summaries on the most part.

 

[Megatron]

Lost Media of the titan comics:

• Transformers #3-8 (these are available via the Saga of the Allspark reprints, but the rest of the material from the magazines is lost)
• Transformers #9-25, Animated #1-3, Revenge of the Fallen #1-2, #9 and #20-21, Dark of the Moon #1-3, Prime #16, Age of Extinction #1-4 (again, we have all the comic scans for these, but the rest of the magazines are lost)
• Revenge of the Fallen #3-8 and 10-19, Prime #15 and 17-20, Age of Extinction #5 (we have nothing from these issues)

(taken from the wiki document)

 

[selfishmisery]

The Wiki started a campaign involving everyone who has the titan comics to scan them, to not made them become "lost media".

Here there is what we have left

https://mega.nz/folder/WJRXma4K#ME1APwa5W35JK9_ZZtY_gw/folder/6cpRyaLS

As someone who has found some UK comics with Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon comic stories that were never printed in the US via eBay, these are 100% out there in someone's possession and are in no way lost.

Hell, there are adult XXX arcade game cabinets that were exclusively in adult shops in the 80s/90s that are to this day sold from time to time in auctions. NOTHING is surely lost unless it's super super old.

 

[Megatron]

As someone who has found some UK comics with Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon comic stories that were never printed in the US via eBay, these are 100% out there in someone's possession and are in no way lost.

Hell, there are adult XXX arcade game cabinets that were exclusively in adult shops in the 80s/90s that are to this day sold from time to time in auctions. NOTHING is surely lost unless it's super super old.

ehm... that's what i said

 

[selfishmisery]

ehm... that's what i said

I was giving credence to the fact they can't be lost with evidence and personal analysis.

 

[Jozaca]

The only way they could be lost would be if they were 150 old and the ink was starting to dissolve or something

 

[Megatron]

ohhhhhhhhh the titan comics has arrived!

 

[Megatron]

Oh btw, I'm super curious on how you'll make the "Revenge of the Fallen", "Dark of the Moon" and the "Age of Extinction" Lines of the titan comics fit with the IDW ones.

 

[BB10]

As someone who has found some UK comics with Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon comic stories that were never printed in the US via eBay, these are 100% out there in someone's possession and are in no way lost.

Hell, there are adult XXX arcade game cabinets that were exclusively in adult shops in the 80s/90s that are to this day sold from time to time in auctions. NOTHING is surely lost unless it's super super old.

I have a lot of issues of the UK Spectacular Spider-Man Adventures that are unavailable online, but they are not in English.

 

[Megatron]

I have a lot of issues of the UK Spectacular Spider-Man Adventures that are unavailable online, but they are not in English.

How can they not be in English if they come from the UK?

 

[BB10]

How can they not be in English if they come from the UK?

They were reprinted in other countries as well.

 

[BB10]

I have the first issue of the Titan Prime magazine as well but that comic has already been archived.

 

[Pro Bot]

According to Selishmisery:
G.I. JOE: Rise of Cobra (film) - August 9-11th, 2015
Operation H.I.S.S. (comic) - August 11-13th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Rise of Cobra (video game) - August 13 - 14th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Retaliation Prequel (comic) - August 14-16th, 2015(?; I don't own the trade paperback)
Operation H.I.S.S. (animated shorts) - August 16-17th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Retaliation (film) - August 17-21st, 2015

The problem with this is this:

1. The Pyramid of Giza was damaged in Revenge of the Fallen. It appears in G.I. Joe and is completely fine. It later appears in The Last Knight with the damage from Revenge of the Fallen.

2. Whatever the **** this is.

London is rebuilt in... 8 years? Wha... huh? Who did they hire for that job? Japan from the Godzilla franchise?

Technically, the Snake Eyes movie doesn't contradict anything but... I just... don't see them acknowledging that film.

 

[Jozaca]

Technically, the Snake Eyes movie doesn't contradict anything but... I just... don't see them acknowledging that film.

Doesn't the movie have a different Baroness?

 

[selfishmisery]

Technically, the Snake Eyes movie doesn't contradict anything but... I just... don't see them acknowledging that film.

Doesn't the movie have a different Baroness?

For Snake Eyes the character, you don't turn from white to Asian unless it's a Uwe Boll tier film.

Also, there's a Snake Eyes tie-in comic to the film, written by Ray Park, that conflicts completely with the Snake Eyes movie.
I own/read it.
https://www.amazon.com/G-I-Joe-Movie-Snake-Eyes/dp/1600106234

 

[Pro Bot]

I meant with Transformers, not the old G.I. Joe films XD. Come on guys, the whole discussion there was LITERALLY about the old films contradicting Transformers.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Rise_of_the_Beasts_(film)

G.I. Joe and Transformers have frequently crossed over in comics and the occasional toyline over the years, though this marks the first time the two have co-existed in a feature film. Notably, the G.I. Joe insignia on Burke's business card is the version introduced in the film G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra.

They had to use the same logo, huh? Well, they can't be canon anyway so it doesn't really matter right now.

A poster for Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins uses the same logo from the 2009 series. In the actual film, I believe they use a different logo... but theoretically, Snake Eyes can be canon to Transformers.

 

[Pro Bot]

Snake Eyes (2021) Timeline
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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:00:32 - 0:01:33)

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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:01:34 - 0:02:03)

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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:02:04 - 0:02:48)

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Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins

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Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins
Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:00:00 - 0:00:31)
Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:02:49 - 0:03:07)

Interestingly, the blu-ray extra short has scenes with Snake Eyes in costume from the end of the film doing action poses and about to fight Storm Shadow, so I guess it's a sequel kinda. Should this film be considered canon, it does limit what they can do with the G.I. Joe crossover, but they did say (I think?) that they want to use more obscure characters so I guess it could work? But what's even the point if you can't use Snake Eyes? Either way, Snake Eyes is canon or none of them are and we get a new universe (as far as G.I. Joe is concerned).

 

[isaaac.jpeg]

Hey everyone
I was watching Bumblebee (2018) and wondered about its timeline, so I came here. There seems to not be a specific month of when it happens in 1987, but I gathered some clues and figured that it's supposed to be set in mid-October to early-November 1987. Since:

–When Charlie and her mom are arguing, Charlie says "In ten months from now, you won't even have to deal with me", suggesting she's going to start her final year in high school and leave after the summer ends in August. This brings us to November.

–Also, earlier, Charlie plays The Smiths' album "Strangeways, Here We Come", which came out on September 28, 1987, and she says "It's brand new".

Oh, and I think there's supposed to be a time-jump between the prologue (B-127 escaping in the pod, crashlanding on Earth, Blitzwing taking out his voice box, and him scanning the Volkswagen before shutting down) and the first time we see Charlie (her going to work and then to the scrapyard). It has to be at least a few weeks apart, maybe 4 weeks, since B-127 in Beetle form has a honeycomb in its fender, and I searched, and it takes a honeycomb about 4 weeks to grow to the point we see in the film. So, that would happen in mid-September 1987.

What do y'all think? Can we settle the film on those months?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Hey everyone
I was watching Bumblebee (2018) and wondered about its timeline, so I came here. There seems to not be a specific month of when it happens in 1987, but I gathered some clues and figured that it's supposed to be set in mid-October to early-November 1987. Since:

–When Charlie and her mom are arguing, Charlie says "In ten months from now, you won't even have to deal with me", suggesting she's going to start her final year in high school and leave after the summer ends in August. This brings us to November.

–Also, earlier, Charlie plays The Smiths' album "Strangeways, Here We Come", which came out on September 28, 1987, and she says "It's brand new".

Oh, and I think there's supposed to be a time-jump between the prologue (B-127 escaping in the pod, crashlanding on Earth, Blitzwing taking out his voice box, and him scanning the Volkswagen before shutting down) and the first time we see Charlie (her going to work and then to the scrapyard). It has to be at least a few weeks apart, maybe 4 weeks, since B-127 in Beetle form has a honeycomb in its fender, and I searched, and it takes a honeycomb about 4 weeks to grow to the point we see in the film. So, that would happen in mid-September 1987.

What do y'all think? Can we settle the film on those months?

Excellent analysis!

 

[Pro Bot]

The 28 Days blu-ray includes 24 minutes of footage from the In-Universe Santa Cruz show. I thought, hey, that's cool. I can include that on the timeline.

Then I saw this...

How can the in-universe fiction from the 1980s/1990s (I assume) view the in-universe non-fiction as in-universe fiction within the fiction? I'm so confused. Is this actually set after the movie and the film was adapted into a film which was then a poster in the in-universe show, or did Sandra Bullock (the actor, not her character) star in a film called 28 Days in-universe prior to the events of the actual 28 Days film, which was seen on a poster in the in-universe Santa Cruz show?

 

[Pro Bot]

There's quite a few more extras than I anticipated on that disc, as is reflected by the timeline now.

 

[BB10]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Are_Dangerous
https://aminoapps.com/c/more-than-m...-dangerous/P3dx_g5tmuDx7xPeaonwrNRLrzQWkwea4V
ARG campaign prequel to AOE.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

I have not seen the original two live action GI Joe films, but why can't they be canon to this timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

While the G.I. Joe organisation shares the same logo from that universe, the events of the sequel are way too wide to fit. More specifically, they destroy the entirety of London. Somehow, it'd be completely rebuilt in The Last Knight. Also, the pyramid was damaged in RotF, is completely fine in G.I. Joe, but then maintains the damage in TLK.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

While the G.I. Joe organisation shares the same logo from that universe, the events of the sequel are way too wide to fit. More specifically, they destroy the entirety of London. Somehow, it'd be completely rebuilt in The Last Knight. Also, the pyramid was damaged in RotF, is completely fine in G.I. Joe, but then maintains the damage in TLK.

Good enough for me. I am so curious how the next live action film is going to tie in and which universe they go with.