No, just Murlun, Spider (1602) and Mairon Jane Watsonne. (1602).
That can't seriously be where All-New X-Men's current arc takes place.
Woohoo! It'll be nice to actually feel like this timeline is "complete". I'll stop collecting the comics as well. You've done such a kick ass job on this thing.
Hello there Timeline guy!
I created a reading order based on your Ultimate Marvel Timeline, and now reading through it. I'm here to possibly help in your work by pointing out any wierd contradictions during my read to improve the timeline further, and also to get a little insight on why you did it the way it is now. I should note that I'm NOT reading it page-by-page, as it is presented in your timeline, I just put every issue in order taking the "present day" happenings in the issue into consideration while securing it's place in the continuity. So it is possible that I didn't see something because it happened in a flashback in an issue from much later.
I'm currently in Year 0, and just finished Ultimate X-Men #7. So here are some of the contradictions I found so far.
- In Ultimate Fantastic Four #5, page 5 Doctor Storm yells at Johnny not to go fight the giant monster and "Let The Ultimates handle it". According to your timeline the Ultimates hasn't been assembled yet.
- In Ultimate Spider-Man #6, page 14 Peter Parker says "This can't be how Captain America does it!" The sentence is in present tense, altough the Cap hasn't been defrozen and put back to action yet by this point.
- In Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #1, page 27 one of the citizens mentions the Sentintels who are actually making their debut on the first pages of Ultimate X-Men #1.
- Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #11 happens after USM #16 I'm sure, but it cannot happen BEFORE Ultimate X-Men #7, because Wolverine leaves for Weapon X in #6 and arrives in #7. Therefore he cannot be present in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #11.
That's all I found so far, I hope you don't mind my nitpicking. I'm really looking forward for your reply.
Thanks for your work!
Yeah, I'm aware of Team-Up #9 not being canon, it's not included in my reading order. To my knowledge Team-Up #4-5 with Iron Man isn't canon either because of the suit and the backstory (also it was kinda Silver Age-ish and silly XD). So I'm not really taking into account those.
Thank you for your answer. So basically what you're saying is that you are well aware of these problems, and took them into consideration while creating this timeline.
Well that should've been obvious to me. But I just love pointing these out, and I feel like your answers to these questions are enchancing the experience.
So thank you for your time, I'll be back once I dug myself much deeper into the books. Probably after I finished Ultimatum.
Thank you for your work!
PS.: I see what you did there
UMTU #4-5 I believe are still meant to be canon. It's been a long time since I read that early stuff, so I'm fuzzy oh the details of each issue. Stylistically I know it doesn't match up (the Silver Age type artwork as you said), but it's merely a stylistic approach, not necessarily a determining factor on its canonicity or not. Different artists portray characters differently (in terms of physical appearance based on the artists' own personal styles and influences, etc). If we were to use that same logic you are, does that mean, to account for the different "looks" Peter Parker has when drawn by different artists (as well as every other character), are we to assume they're all undergoing some degree of cosmetic surgery and hair style changes between every different artist?
I'm only messing with you, but just to make the point that the art style doesn't necessarily make it non-canon just because it's got that Silver Age look.
It's not the art-style, it's the writing. The way Tony's backstory is handled, and the fact that one of Earths mightiest superhero and biggest brain gets instantly deactivated without any explanation just so the main character can take the spotlight is not really Bendis-esque, it sounds like something from the Silver Age. It was alright, I enjoyed it, but the dialogues were so simplistic and over-the-top like it was written in the sixties. I believe it's an intentional flavor they wanted to add.
I say it's not canon, because the Marvel wiki states so. I only read it because you included it.
Thank you for your interest, I'll be back later then!
A fan confused by the status of Orson Scott Card's "Ultimate Iron Man" series and the original origin of Iron Man in "Ultimate Spider-Man Super Special" and what version would count as the actual origin of the Armored Avenger was looking for answers. "While the Orson Scott Card series was great, it didn't match up with where we were going," Amanat said. The just arrived C.B. Cebulski admitted that in the early days of the Ultimate Universe, Marvel "didn't always know what we were doing" and that the specific origin was one place where things didn't match up. "We used to have No Prizes to figure this stuff out," he added.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. But there's also a Latverian Ambassador working for a dictator (allegedly Van Damme),
which should be a bankrupt Third World country at this point
if I'm not mistaken negotiating with Stark,
AND with a Nick Fury (with hair) in UMTU#4-5.
That's enough inconsistency for me to render it non-canon.