Ultimate Thor - influence & inspiration

[DigiEmissary]

Ironically
Religion: The response a person gives to the mystery of life

So in and of itself, atheism is a religion.

Uh... no.

Dictionary.com:
Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Merriam-Webster:
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

Digi, it's not uh no... I don't see a clear cut definiton of "religion" . Didn't your mothers ever tell you the three main things never to talk about?

 

[The Captain]

I'm not entirely sure, but C.S Lewis (Author of the chronicles and narnia, and professor of medieval and renaissance english at oxford university) once posed the question of Jesus Christ that was similar. Asking if he was a Liar, Lunatic, or Lord. This was a logical debate on the possibilities of all of those three things that could apply. It should also be noted that Lewis was once an atheist that became an evangelical christian, it was in the times when he was a christian that this question was explored. Coming to the conclusion that Jesus christ was the real deal.

On a side note, I personally am of the belief that Lewis never actually became a christian, but understood the worth of christianity as a tool to understand the world, and preached about it to educate certain language and behavioural set pieces(that the bible explains well, and in detail through allegory) to society, that he deemed to be a glue of society that was becoming fractured.

wow, thats some pretty deep stuff.....mind if i email it to myself to reread before i put on my pjs and go to bed??

 

[The Captain]

I recommend to you guys The Life of Pi... It's a great book that explains religion as we know it and how it comes down to God.

and what does this have to do with Thor???

 

[The Captain]

x travagant # 1

You'll find most Athiest scientists who spend there life trying to prove christianity doesnt exist become believers themselves, the Bible holds too much evidence. (I know hes not a scientist, but im just saying it could happen to him too)

Just my 2 cents

exactly..once again, you prove your intellect reigns supreme.....you are a genius amongst dunces....dont let anyone tell you anything different

 

[DigiEmissary]

Digi, it's not uh no... I don't see a clear cut definiton of "religion" . Didn't your mothers ever tell you the three main things never to talk about?

I only have one mother. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :wink:

Also, you'll notice that all the definitions I posted refer to God, the supernatural or unknown, and/or faith (things that are related and about as "clear-cut" as it gets), whereas jtg's was some pseudo-philosophical comment on atheism. Not believing in God is not the same thing as believing in some sort of "no God."

Also, what's the third thing? Religion, politics and...?

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

I only have one mother. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :wink:

I was just pluralizing it because there were multiple people taking part in the discussion.

Also, what's the third thing? Religion, politics and...?

Can't say, my mother told me not to talk about it :wink:

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

Sports is the third thing

 

[DigiEmissary]

Sports is the third thing

Oh. Well, i don't have to worry about that one. :wink:

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

This three things always get you into a discussion.
With God, whithout God, with a bunch of Gods, it doesn't matter, you are still talking about comics and doing the same things you always did, so what i need to argue about? LoL

 

[jtg3885]

I only have one mother. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :wink:

Also, you'll notice that all the definitions I posted refer to God, the supernatural or unknown, and/or faith (things that are related and about as "clear-cut" as it gets), whereas jtg's was some pseudo-philosophical comment on atheism. Not believing in God is not the same thing as believing in some sort of "no God."

Also, what's the third thing? Religion, politics and...?

But if you're entirely sure there's no god or gods or goddess or whatnot, then surely that means you do have a clear cut set of beliefs about how the things that most people turn to religion for actually work. The meaning of life, what happens when you die, etc. Ergo, you have religion.

 

[ourchair]

I'm pretty sure this thread was about Thor at one point, but I can't remember when.

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

I'm pretty sure this thread was about Thor at one point, but I can't remember when.

In the first post lol

 

[DigiEmissary]

But if you're entirely sure there's no god or gods or goddess or whatnot, then surely that means you do have a clear cut set of beliefs about how the things that most people turn to religion for actually work. The meaning of life, what happens when you die, etc. Ergo, you have religion.

Logicial fallacies are fun! :roll:

The definition of religion is a set of beliefs regarding one or more deities. People may use religion as their explanation for "the meaning of life," "what happens when you die," etc, but that doesn't make it the definition of religion.

Also, there is no "meaning of life," and what happens when I die is that my brain stops sending out organized electrical impulses, causing organ failure and cell destruction.

 

[jtg3885]

Well aren't you depressing.

 

[Goodwill]

That's from an analitical stand point... To say that there's nothing more than a brain is both narrow-mindedness and nonsense. I'm terribly sorry if I'm coming off as offensive because, believe me, that's the last thing I want to be doing, I just don't think you can accept the fact that all you are is dust in the wind, so to speak.

 

[Caduceus]

I just don't think you can accept the fact that all you are is dust in the wind, so to speak.

Thats a traditional sign of insecurity. You just need to get yourself some faith. Not necessarily in a god or goddess or gods. Just some faith.

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

Even a sand grain can be special sometimes, there is always one that goes to your eyes and hurts a lot. So even if you are just one more person in the crowd it doesnt mean you cannot change something. One life affects many others, either for good or for worst it is still a change and thats when you stop being just a dust in the wind.
I feel poethic today lol

 

[DigiEmissary]

That's from an analitical stand point... To say that there's nothing more than a brain is both narrow-mindedness and nonsense. I'm terribly sorry if I'm coming off as offensive because, believe me, that's the last thing I want to be doing, I just don't think you can accept the fact that all you are is dust in the wind, so to speak.

And yet i've done just that. Seems like you're the one who can't accept it.

 

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Anyways, getting back to Thor...

 

[onenewquestion]

David Icke is the inspiration of Thor. his books helped influence Millar's storylines for this series. Reality warping gods? 4th-dimensional time jumping reptilian shape shifters? the name Chitauri? And someone having a breakdown, then proclaiming that they achieved godhood? Check his site and books. Makes me glad I'm an Objectivist! :mrgreen:

 

[ourchair]

David Icke is the inspiration of Thor. his books helped influence Millar's storylines for this series. Reality warping gods? 4th-dimensional time jumping reptilian shape shifters? the name Chitauri? And someone having a breakdown, then proclaiming that they achieved godhood? Check his site and books. Makes me glad I'm an Objectivist! :mrgreen:

I answered your question earlier in this thread when you asked us to "impress you", onq :
http://www.ultimatecentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36382&postcount=28

 

[Ultimate Travis]

Haha. I knew it. Thor always did kind of remind me a little bit of that David Icke character.

 

[Guijllons]

Thats a traditional sign of insecurity. You just need to get yourself some faith. Not necessarily in a god or goddess or gods. Just some faith.

Damn Straight!

And David Icke was the idea behind Thor? Oh my!!
David Icke has some fine points of view, but really, there are levels when possibility become flamboyant ridiculousness, and he crosses it often.
David Icke really did believe he was Christ at one point during his midlife crisis, but I never really saw Thor in that role. I did see him within that line of possibility, just. (For the Universe we are dealing with of course)