compound
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I seriously do not want to see a 'gritty', 'realistic', and most of all 'adult' version of Whirlwind because I remember all too well what ahppened the last time they attempted it, in 616. *shudders*
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compound said:I seriously do not want to see a 'gritty', 'realistic', and most of all 'adult' version of Whirlwind because I remember all too well what ahppened the last time they attempted it, in 616. *shudders*
TheManWithoutFear said:Or Whirlwind doesn't have to be a pyscho stalker obsessed with Jan.
The Overlord said:Hey, psycho stalkers are realstic, isn't that the purpose of the Ultimate Universe? besides do you have a better idea to ultimize Whirlwind?
'Psycho stalkers are realistic?'The Overlord said:Hey, psycho stalkers are realstic, isn't that the purpose of the Ultimate Universe? besides do you have a better idea to ultimize Whirlwind?
Agreed. I wish there were less hypothetical Ultimatizations like this.MWOF said:Yeah, it could happen but I don't see too much enjoyment out of "man gets powers and longs after celebrity superhero" When he's never met her and chaos shortly ensues... too ... meh for my tastes.
TheManWithoutFear said:No yet. But you guys aren't ultimizing the character your ultimizeing one of his subplots. The stalker thing could be done away with easily and no one would care. Yeah, it could happen but I don't see too much enjoyment out of "man gets powers and longs after celebrity superhero" When he's never met her and chaos shortly ensues... too ... meh for my tastes.
ourchair said:'Psycho stalkers are realistic?'
I mean, by the logic you suggested the Whirlwind should be a ballet dancer, since ballet dancers are you know, 'realistic' too.
Agreed. I wish there were less hypothetical Ultimatizations like this.
You don't get it. You're thinking to 616ish. Whirlwind can be reinventive any possible way. He could be given some other motive that makes him a major threat that wouldn't make him "just another thug". You just have to thinkin and not use the same storylines as 616.The Overlord said:Ah, that subplot is only thing that prevents Whirlwind from being just another thug with a gimmick. Besides there tons nuts who stalk movie stars they have never met.
TheManWithoutFear said:You don't get it. You're thinking to 616ish. Whirlwind can be reinventive any possible way. He could be given some other motive that makes him a major threat that wouldn't make him "just another thug". You just have to thinkin and not use the same storylines as 616.
Why do you expect me to pull an ultimization out of my *** all the time? Would you really like the writers of the Ultimate Universe to just throw some garbage down to impress comic book fans? I already told you I don't know yet.The Overlord said:Alright, then how would you Ultimize Whirlwind then?
TheManWithoutFear said:Why do you expect me to pull an ultimization out of my *** all the time? Would you really like the writers of the Ultimate Universe to just throw some garbage down to impress comic book fans? I already told you I don't know yet.
I am you just asked me 3 times to ultimize him and I can't because I'm completely unfamiliar with the character. It'd be like asking someone to ultimize Stilt-Man if they didn't read Daredevil. Would you expect a good ultimization from that?The Overlord said:Alright, fine. Relax will ya.
TheManWithoutFear said:I am you just asked me 3 times to ultimize him and I can't because I'm completely unfamiliar with the character. It'd be like asking someone to ultimize Stilt-Man if they didn't read Daredevil. Would you expect a good ultimization from that?
The Overlord said:Fine, its just that when someone criticizes my ideas I like them to present alternatives. Besides Millar ultimized magneto with no prior knowledge of the character.
TheManWithoutFear said:Why? I was directly critiquing your idea as much as the general idea that ultimization should carry over 616 subplots with them.
Millar had no prior knowledge of Magneto? Cmon... That's like saying I know nothing about Santa Clause. He's a comic book writer. Magneto's gonna be in your face. And he obviously did some research (Wanda and Pietro)
The Overlord said:But as you noted the subplot with Magneto having Wanda and Pietro as his children was carried over from the 616, so I don't see why a subplot from the 616 universe should not be carried over to Ultimate Universe if it fits in the tone of the title in question. Frankly I bleieve the only way to make Whirlwind fit in with the grim and gritty Ultimates title is to exapnd on the psycho stalker angle.