Universal Monsters - Viewing Order

[Pro Bot]

But seriously, how? What? Why?! I didn't expect anything anime to be connected to the Universal Monsters timeline.

It's a bit of a weird one, yeah. I'm less confident in that one actually being part of the universe since it's an adaptation of an existing work. Honestly could remove it very easily but it's fine for now.

Basically, it features traditional monsters from the Universal Monsters brand, and is by Universal (Universal + Dracula/vampires). Personally, I think it's something that can easily be tossed, like the Van Helsing live-action series. The modern era gets like this, lol.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

It's a bit of a weird one, yeah. I'm less confident in that one actually being part of the universe since it's an adaptation of an existing work. Honestly could remove it very easily but it's fine for now.

Oh.

Basically, it features traditional monsters from the Universal Monsters brand, and is by Universal (Universal + Dracula/vampires). Personally, I think it's something that can easily be tossed, like the Van Helsing live-action series. The modern era gets like this, lol.

Huh

 

[Pro Bot]

Alucard is Dracula, Anderson is Frankenstein's Monster, and the Captain is the Wolf Man too. It does make sense, Dredd. The Ultimate series is also Universal, so again, makes sense. Just leaving a disclaimer that it's more of a take that it's an adaptation of the classic monsters by Universal. So... unless it's contradicted, it's gonna be in here.

It's just nowhere near as solid as, like, all The Mummy films being connected or something like that, lol. No direct links, just Universal Monsters franchise characters in a series by Universal.

 

[Jozaca]

Alucard is Dracula, Anderson is Frankenstein's Monster, and the Captain is the Wolf Man too. It does make sense, Dredd. The Ultimate series is also Universal, so again, makes sense. Just leaving a disclaimer that it's more of a take that it's an adaptation of the classic monsters by Universal. So... unless it's contradicted, it's gonna be in here.

It's just nowhere near as solid as, like, all The Mummy films being connected or something like that, lol. No direct links, just Universal Monsters franchise characters in a series by Universal.

I will consider that a more solid link that "Mighty Monsterwheelies" to be honest

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

I will consider that a more solid link that "Mighty Monsterwheelies" to be honest

Mighty Monsterwheelies is officially part of the franchise.

 

[barryh]

The Ultimate series is also Universal, so again, makes sense.

Hellsing Ultimate's first episode aired in February 2006 and made it to episode 5 by November 2008. Geneon merged with Universal Studios Japan in February 2009.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Hellsing Ultimate's first episode aired in February 2006 and made it to episode 5 by November 2008. Geneon merged with Universal Studios Japan in February 2009.

they marged in 2008. name change was 2009 tho yes

 

[Pro Bot]

Hellsing Ultimate's first episode aired in February 2006 and made it to episode 5 by November 2008. Geneon merged with Universal Studios Japan in February 2009.

So it ain't Universal originally? Then that's something to toss. Good job on checking that one up, I appreciate it.

 

[barryh]

they marged in 2008. name change was 2009 tho yes

Announced in 2008 and the deal closed in 2009. https://www.screendaily.com/upie-ac...-in-dentsus-dvd-outfit-geneon/4041963.article

 

[barryh]

Jack Griffin
1931 - The Invisible Man (1933)
-Played by Claude Rains

Frank Griffin (Jack Griffin's brother)
1940 - The Invisible Man Returns
1948 - Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein
-Played by John Sutton

Frank Griffin Jr. (Jack Griffin's nephew/Frank Griffin's son)
1941 - Invisible Agent
-Played by Jon Hall

Robert Griffin
1944 - The Invisible Man's Revenge
-Played by Jon Hall

Arnaud DeFöhn/"Hawley Griffin"
2000 - The Invisible Man (2000 TV Series) [9 Episodes]
-Played by Joel Bissonnette

Adrian Griffin
2020 - The Invisible Man (2020)
-Played by Oliver Jackson-Cohen

Tom Griffin
2020 - The Invisible Man (2020)
-Played by Michael Dorman

There was also a made-for-TV The Invisible Woman (1983) https://invisible-man.fandom.com/wiki/The_Invisible_Woman_(1983_film)

 

[Pro Bot]

Perfect, thank you!

 

[Pro Bot]

There was also a made-for-TV The Invisible Woman (1983) https://invisible-man.fandom.com/wiki/The_Invisible_Woman_(1983_film)

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Wikipedia missing important information here, lol. No wonder we missed it.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Wikipedia missing important information here, lol. No wonder we missed it.

Typical of Wikipedia. They're either missing information or full of biased information.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Typical of Wikipedia. They're either missing information or full of biased information.

Universal Monsters page is perfect example of bias

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Universal Monsters page is perfect example of bias

So are pages for the likes of Gamergate and Bridget (Guilty Gear). The former they've dubbed a "harassment campaign" despite evidence to the contrary, the latter written to essentially remove all trace of him being male due to agenda-pushing localizers falsely retconning him into being a trans-girl.

... yeah, I know that's incredibly off-topic, but just shows the problem with Wikipedia.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

BTW, not sure if it counts, but Hollow Man 2's (a standalone sequel to the original with Kevin Bacon) main character is Michael Griffin. Again, IDK if it counts or not.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

BTW, not sure if it counts, but Hollow Man 2's (a standalone sequel to the original with Kevin Bacon) main character is Michael Griffin. Again, IDK if it counts or not.

it's Sony. so it doesn't count

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

it's Sony. so it doesn't count

****!

 

[Pro Bot]

BTW, not sure if it counts, but Hollow Man 2's (a standalone sequel to the original with Kevin Bacon) main character is Michael Griffin. Again, IDK if it counts or not.

Griffin is a real life name. Also, it comes from the H.G. Wells' The Invisible Man novel. If anything, I'd rather prefer including The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, but it's not Universal and has no direct connections or crossovers. The Monster Squad movie, however... apparently the Director's commentary confirms the monsters are the same from Universal. I can't verify that for myself. Here's what the Television Crossover Universe blog has to say:

Notes: The monsters are all meant to be the Universal monsters (based on the director commentary). This was also the case with Van Helsing, and as with Van Helsing, we have to assume they are not. But at least in the case of this film, we are closer to the original film versions. The Dracula of this film uses the alias Alucard, as did the Dracula from Son of Dracula. Thus, I presume that this is the same vampire from that film, rather than Armand Tesla. The Frankenstein Creature of this film can't be the one from the Universal series, who is in suspended animation in La Mirada, Florida at this time. But there certainly have been plenty of other creatures out there created by the Frankenstein family. The Wolf Man of this film claims to be Larry Talbot, but since the Universal Wolf Man is also in suspended animation in La Mirada, this must be his son, Larry Talbot Junior. The Mummy here likely isn't Kharis, but it might be Klaris who did survive the events of Abbott and Costello Meet the Mummy as revealed in Return of the Wolf Man. On the other hand, the Gill-Man present could be the same from the original films, or at least the same species.

The film does have the Universal Monsters as in-universe films, notably. But... so does Hollywood on Parade No. A-8, Abbott and Costello Meet the Creature from the Black Lagoon, McCloud 7x06, "McCloud Meets Dracula", The Munsters (2022) and Lisa Frankenstein, so hardly that notable.

 

[Joao99]

I guess Nosferatu happens twice in the same year in the same universe, XD.

Wait both Nosferatu are in the same Universe? The Old one And the New ?

 

[Pro Bot]

Wait both Nosferatu are in the same Universe? The Old one And the New ?

It's complicated. Nosferatu (2024) is a Universal Monsters movie. The 1922 film, however, is not... but, the short film Boo!, which is Universal Monsters, uses footage from that film as a stand-in for "Dracula". Thus, the original film is tangentially related, similar to, say, Return of the Vampire being a sequel to Dracula except with a different name.

They're different enough, plot-wize. It'd be nice if they were set in different years though.

 

[barryh]

The Monster Squad movie, however... apparently the Director's commentary confirms the monsters are the same from Universal. I can't verify that for myself.

It's an unofficial tribute, one of dozens. They took care to avoid replicating Universal designs to avoid getting sued. It doesn't count as UM.

 

[Pro Bot]

It is unofficial, that is correct. I wouldn't ever count it as an official instalment unless it's made by Universal.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

It is unofficial, that is correct. I wouldn't ever count it as an official instalment unless it's made by Universal.

or unless Uni bought the full rights to the film and treats it as part of UM

 

[iceman109]

It's complicated. Nosferatu (2024) is a Universal Monsters movie. The 1922 film, however, is not... but, the short film Boo!, which is Universal Monsters, uses footage from that film as a stand-in for "Dracula". Thus, the original film is tangentially related, similar to, say, Return of the Vampire being a sequel to Dracula except with a different name.

They're different enough, plot-wize. It'd be nice if they were set in different years though.

The 100th anniversary edition of Nosferatu 1922 puts the events in 1843

 

[Pro Bot]

The 100th anniversary edition of Nosferatu 1922 puts the events in 1843

Seems like a toss up between '38 and '43. I think the original script might have been '43, but I'm not sure.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

The 100th anniversary edition of Nosferatu 1922 puts the events in 1843

yeah, it neither was in the original script nor approved by the F.W. Murnau Stifftung. That's something that Reel Vault did. Film is in public domain everyone can make changes to it. Unless it's officially changed (so by F.W. Murnau Stifftung) then we should ignore other changes.

 

[Pro Bot]

http://www.filmsufi.com/2008/10/nosferatu-f-w-murnau-1922.html?m=1

The story of Nosferatu begins not in late 19th century London, but in Germany and is said to describe the Great Death of Wisborg in 1843. This fictitious city is thought to refer to the northern Hanseatic German city of Wismar, but some English-language translations of the titles say that the setting is in Bremen in 1838. The titular adjustment to 1838 may be an attempt to match history more closely, since there was a real plague that swept through northern Europe in 1838.

https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2000/cteq/nosferatu/

Galeen's script is set at the time of "The Great Death in Wisborg in the year 1843 A.D." In the English language version, the intertitles have altered the location and era to Bremen, 1838, with the historian's name given as Johann Cavallius. The English language version alters several other plot details and sadly, loses the lyrical, Expressionistic character of Galeen's original intertitles.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

http://www.filmsufi.com/2008/10/nosferatu-f-w-murnau-1922.html?m=1

https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2000/cteq/nosferatu/

now I am confused...

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

I will watch the F.W. Murnau Stifftung approved remaster soon