X-Men Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Revised & Original)

[TalonCard]

But how is it official? Where does the number come from? It seems weird that a fan would make up a number (especially since the wiki seems to have a TRN system for doing that where no official numbers exist already), but there's no evidence to the contrary. If it's official, it should exist in a comic or a handbook or the Blu-Ray commentary or somewhere.

 

[Pro Bot]

But how is it official? Where does the number come from? It seems weird that a fan would make up a number (especially since the wiki seems to have a TRN system for doing that where no official numbers exist already), but there's no evidence to the contrary. If it's official, it should exist in a comic or a handbook or the Blu-Ray commentary or somewhere.

It's in a handbook, presumably.

 

[TalonCard]

Given the utter lack of evidence, it's probably something a wiki user made up. I wouldn't consider it binding in any way.

 

[selfishmisery]

Here's where it came from.

Earth-41633 Deadpool's girlfriend Vanessa Carlysle was murdered by criminal Sergei Valishnikov, who had earlier been targeted by Deadpool. After being convinced to join the X-Men by Colossus, Deadpool formed X-Force to protect the mutant Firefist from the time-traveling Cable-66250, ultimately teaming with Cable to prevent Firefist from becoming evil in the first place, diverging Cable's home reality from this reality. Deadpool later used Cable's time-traveling technology to travel into the past, where he prevented Vanessa's death and diverged this reality. Deadpool 2 movie (2018)

The Marvel Appendix is overseen by people who work with Marvel closely, so these reality numbers are conceptualized IN-HOUSE.

 

[Pro Bot]

Here's where it came from.



The Marvel Appendix is overseen by people who work with Marvel closely, so these reality numbers are conceptualized IN-HOUSE.

Assuming that what is said there is 100% canon, then Deadpool 2 is set in 2018.

Earth-66250

Alternate future in which the despot mutant Firefist killed the family of Cable, the son of Cyclops and Jean Grey. This reality's Cable used a time charge to travel back to Earth-41633's year 2018, where he planned to kill Firefist to prevent his becoming evil in Cable's home reality. Deadpool 2 movie (2018)

Also confirmation Cable is the son of Cyclops and Jean Grey, which can be assumed based on the source material but it's nice to have confirmation.

 

[Pro Bot]

Okay, cleaning it up a bit, not including flashbacks, I guess I see it as:

X-Men Cinematic Multiverse
Earth-????/Alternate Original Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine: Unleashed Extended Edition
The Gifted (potentially)
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut

Earth-10005/Original Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine: Unleashed Extended Edition
The Gifted (potentially)
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut

Earth-66250/Cable's Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut
X-Men: Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-????/Wade (Deadpool) Dies Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut
X-Men: Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-41633/Deadpool 2 Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut
X-Men: Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-17315/Venessa Lives Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut
X-Men: Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut
The New Mutants
Logan

Earth-????/Peter Lives Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut
X-Men: Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-18315/Wade (Weapon XI) Dies Timeline
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Origins: Wolverine
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-????/Ryan Reynolds Dies Timeline
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut

Earth-????/Baby Adolf Hitler Timeline
Deadpool 2: Super Duper [email protected]%!#& Cut
Legion (?)

Earth-????/Legion Timeline 2
Legion

Earth-????/Legion Timeline 3
Legion

...
Earth-199999/Marvel Cinematic Universe Timeline? (Based on Deadpool Future)

That about covers all of it. I'm surprised Marvel haven't designated all of Deadpool 2 in one batch, unless everyone just missed it.

Legion is kinda forced in, I admit, so I put a question mark in.

 

[selfishmisery]

I get what you're saying with Legion, since Xavier would potentially be born looking different after an alternate timeline where baby Hitler is killed by Wade (1889)...except Wade didn't kill him.
It showed later after the credits in the Super Duper Cut that he couldn't bring himself to kill a baby regardless. So it didn't create a branch.

As for Peter living, I would equate that to Hawkeye time-traveling to earlier in 2018 to his family farm in Endgame. One little "ripple" isn't going to be big enough to create a branch.
Let's be honest, Peter's life probably didn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, so that and Wade holding baby Adolf (and deciding not to kill him) may be a rare example of time being affected directly.

Ryan Reynolds dying on an Earth that resembles the real world would mess up a lot, so I'll give you that.

(I'm guessing the two alternate Legion futures are one where Lenny is pregnant and alive with future David and the second where she's dead but the future where David redeems himself is set in motion? I'd argue the first of those two alternate timelines is set in stone until undone. So there would be only one alternate timeline where baby David has a better life.)

 

[selfishmisery]

Earth-????/Wade (Deadpool) Dies Timeline


Earth-41633/Deadpool 2 Timeline

Weird how that first one didn't get a reality number. My guess: The first one was the true (as-of-yet undesignated) Deadpool timeline (with the first movie and all) and Earth-41633 is the events of Deadpool 2 still playing out mostly the same but Wade's death is undone.

That definitely works!

 

[selfishmisery]

One thing that bugs me though about shoving Deadpool into the main timeline...two I guess, but I guess Colossus just looked different because he was always chromed-up when see him, but how do you explain the Wade Wilson in the late 70s? Is that his father, Thomas "Wade" Wilson?

 

[Pro Bot]

One thing that bugs me though about shoving Deadpool into the main timeline...two I guess, but I guess Colossus just looked different because he was always chromed-up when see him, but how do you explain the Wade Wilson in the late 70s? Is that his father, Thomas "Wade" Wilson?

Colossus probably just stays metal as a form of respect for his mutation. I guess he emigrated to America in the Original Timeline and picked up an accent. In Days of Future Past promotional material, Chernobyl mutated Colossus. Pahaps in the new timeline, his powers mutated naturally so he has a bigger metallic form.

Depending on how you look at it, Wade is either the same character in his 40s-50s or they're different characters called Wade Wilson who are related in some form.

I just assumed each use of time travel created a new reality, but I guess we could use "Steve was always the Husband" logic here.

 

[Pro Bot]

Having now seen The New Mutants:

Spoiler

I think it's set in 2026-2028.

Firstly, evolution has had it's ups and downs, but I doubt suppressing the X-gene in new births will stop mutants. They probably just became rarer. I'm going to guess that they were snatched up by the Essex Corporation before they became news.

The escape footage occurred in 2026, meaning it's set after then.

The X-Men are referenced as existing heroes. Since Danielle didn't inform the children of the Westchester Incident and the disbanding of the X-Men, it must be set before 2028.

Deadpool is 2015-2017, also.

On Legion, wouldn't it make more sense to designate the Xavier timeline as the alternate timeline and leave the show as the prime reality? It's easier to read that way.

Also, with how messy this timeline is with the different realities, you should probably make a viewing order with all the movies, comics and television series.

 

[selfishmisery]

Having now seen The New Mutants:

Spoiler

I think it's set in 2026-2028.

Firstly, evolution has had it's ups and downs, but I doubt suppressing the X-gene in new births will stop mutants. They probably just became rarer. I'm going to guess that they were snatched up by the Essex Corporation before they became news.

The escape footage occurred in 2026, meaning it's set after then.

The X-Men are referenced as existing heroes. Since Danielle didn't inform the children of the Westchester Incident and the disbanding of the X-Men, it must be set before 2028.

Here's my counter-argument: Laura/X-23 was 11 by 2029. It would have be sometime around 2018, because I can't find any place other than the X-Men movie wiki that states that the footage was in "2026". (Was it specifically the kids escaping or training?)

 

[Pro Bot]

Here's my counter-argument: Laura/X-23 was 11 by 2029. It would have be sometime around 2018, because I can't find any place other than the X-Men movie wiki that states that the footage was in "2026". (Was it specifically the kids escaping or training?)

I swear, I remember reading 2026 in the movie, but I checked and I can't see anything. Maybe it's not the right clip?

It's the escape scene we need.

 

[selfishmisery]

I swear, I remember reading 2026 in the movie, but I checked and I can't see anything. Maybe it's not the right clip?

It's the escape scene we need.

The Hispanic woman who worked for Transigen said she worked there for 10 years. (2029 - 10 = 2019)

The 2026 comes from a simple document unrelated to the supposed escape. (It had to do with Social Media confidentiality.)

Spoiler

The flash of the footage in New Mutants probably had nothing to do with the escape of all the test subjects, but more or less what happened in Transigen/Essex Corp during the experiments.

The latest New Mutants could be set is 2019.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Is it possible to split the timeline into the Original and Revised, instead of having them over-lap like it is now? It's just way too messy and confusing to understand what events happen in what timeline.

 

[Pro Bot]

Is it possible to split the timeline into the Original and Revised, instead of having them over-lap like it is now? It's just way too messy and confusing to understand what events happen in what timeline.

Alternatively, place 1973 and everything after that's in the revised timeline after 2023 of the original timeline. Alternatively, color the original and revised timelines different to distinguish them.

I prefer the former, as well as a straight up split. I don't mind a unified timeline, though.

You could also do a "Earth-10005" and "Earth-17315" designation if split into two, similar to the Animated Universes.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Alternatively, place 1973 and everything after that's in the revised timeline after 2023 of the original timeline. Alternatively, color the original and revised timelines different to distinguish them.

I prefer the former, as well as a straight up split. I don't mind a unified timeline, though.

What Timeline is The Gifted set in???

 

[selfishmisery]

Is it possible to split the timeline into the Original and Revised, instead of having them over-lap like it is now? It's just way too messy and confusing to understand what events happen in what timeline.

I already did that before and was told to merge it. -_-

 

[Dallas Kinard]

I already did that before and was told to merge it. -_-

Eh, do what you want, but I feel it's way less messy the other way. I need some assistance though. What timeline is The New Mutants set in?

 

[Pro Bot]

Eh, do what you want, but I feel it's way less messy the other way. I need some assistance though. What timeline is The New Mutants set in?

Definitely "Earth-17315", the Post-DoFP timeline (Dark future where Logan takes place).

You might get confused by Deadpool 2's timeline, because that was designated a different Earth than Logan because of the ending. Seeing as the timeline where Deadpool dies isn't designated, it's assumed it's Earth-17315.