Greg Lantern the Movie

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While the screenplay may be the main source of Casino Royale's greatness overall, I still think it's specifically a really well-directed film, and in a lot of the same ways as Zorro and GoldenEye. That's what I have confidence in.
 
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I completely understand that. What I'm trying to say is that while the director might be a very good director, it won't matter much if he's given a turkey, and so you hope the director (like Eastwood and Fincher) is very picky about their material (which Campbell might be) which, to me, is more of a risk than gambling on a consistently effective writer like Haggis.

But I completely understand your optimism. If I'd seen EDGE OF DARKNESS and loved it, I might be as optimistic as you. I simply haven't seen it, and THE MASK OF ZORRO was, for me, just okay. Whereas IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH is one of the finest detective films ever, up there with NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, SEVEN, FARGO, JFK, and CHINATOWN, in my opinion. So I value Campbell's directing less than you do (since ELAH was directed by Haggis).

Is EDGE OF DARKNESS good? (I hope so. I like Mel Gibson.)
 
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I understand that too, I just think that even if the script DOES suck, Campbell's direction alone still could set it ahead of a lot of superhero films for me.

I thought Edge Of Darkness was great, but I was expecting something much simpler and more like Taken and didn't know it was Campbell until the credits rolled so there's a factor of pleasant surprise. It's certainly an achievement for Gibson and would be a worthy Crowning Performance if his acting career never takes off again.

Now for something completely different: I just realized what the trailer reminds me of - this is IF TED MOSBY BECAME THE GREEN LANTERN. Seriously, watch it with this in mind. It's uncanny.
 
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Bass said:
I completely understand that. What I'm trying to say is that while the director might be a very good director, it won't matter much if he's given a turkey, and so you hope the director (like Eastwood and Fincher) is very picky about their material (which Campbell might be) which, to me, is more of a risk than gambling on a consistently effective writer like Haggis.

But I completely understand your optimism. If I'd seen EDGE OF DARKNESS and loved it, I might be as optimistic as you. I simply haven't seen it, and THE MASK OF ZORRO was, for me, just okay. Whereas IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH is one of the finest detective films ever, up there with NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, SEVEN, FARGO, JFK, and CHINATOWN, in my opinion. So I value Campbell's directing less than you do (since ELAH was directed by Haggis).

Is EDGE OF DARKNESS good? (I hope so. I like Mel Gibson.)
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Hey, me too! And I'm even Jewish!
 
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Yeah, it's weird he's come up because when I was dreamcasting a GREEN LANTERN movie, I cast Mel Gibson as Hal Jordan - not because their names are similar (which they totally are) - but because I imagined the movie as an 80s buddy cop movie. In space.

Ergo, 'tis awesome.

I'll pick up EDGE OF DARKNESS once it's on super-sales.
 
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The Overlord said:
Has anyone seen this article that has been generating bad buzz about this film? http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/19191.html
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I stopped reading after:
Back in November fan reaction to the first trailer for The Green Lantern was far from positive, but then the initial trailer for the first Iron Man film didn't thrill anyone either
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Who wasn't thrilled by the Iron Man trailer? As I remember everyone loved it
 
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Indeed, Random. IRON MAN's trailer came out and everyone, including myself who thought the movie would be bad, thought it looked like a lot of fun. The trailer for GREEN LANTERN on the other hand, just looks like a bad IRON MAN rip-off.
 
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While I agree that it looks like they modeled the Green Lantern trailer off of the Iron Man one, I doubt that the overall movie is an exact copy. I really hope this movie is good and the agent they talk about doesn't know what's going on, but I could be wrong. Hopefully they can put together a better trailer in the spring.
 
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Does anyone get the impression some of the bad buzz could be due to the fact that this is a VERY comic book-y comic book movie? By that I mean this movie seems to be reveling in the fantastic elements of its source material, as opposed to downplaying them like the more successful Nolan Batman movies do?

Granted, to do a GL movie justice, the space battles, galactic police force, and giant green hands coming out of his ring to punch people should be included...but is the tone right in your opinion (that being, from the little we've seen in the trailer).

When I see a good movie trailer (even for a bad movie), I'm hooked by that trailer and can't wait to see the movie. I looked forward to this movie until I saw the trailer, now I doubt I'll even bother watching it on DVD...so in effect, this trailer had the opposite intended effect on me (and apparently many others).

I guess what I'm saying, from the way things appear in the trailer, what do you think went wrong?

I realize its presumptuous to ask considering none of us have seen the movie yet, but who cares?
 
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it went wrong in a few areas:

1) choosing a lead actress because she is pretty instead of choosing one who can act. I had never heard of Blake Lively before she was cast for this, but based on the two lines she had in the trailer, she's not good at all.

2) it seems to me that the trailer didn't show what the bulk of the movie is going to be about. It played it off as a stupid half-hearted attempt to recreate what made Iron Man cool, except without any of the realism and more sci-fi. I'm still clinging to hope that the bulk of the movie will be an epic space opera with a little bit of Iron Man-esque humour thrown in and the trailer didn't focus on that b/c they didn't want to give too much away.

It's also possible that I'm completely wrong about this and the movie is going to be exactly as it seems to be in the trailer, in which case...they deserve what they get, I guess.

3) the suit looks stupid.

4) I know lots of people who have never heard of Green Lantern. I don't know anyone under the age of 50 who has never heard of Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, or the X-Men. So selling a concept that is VERY over-the-top and sci-fi-ish to people who don't know the character is a difficult task. And not respecting the character (as the trailer seems to suggest) is going to turn off the few people who do know Green Lantern (fan-boys).
 
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DIrishB said:
Does anyone get the impression some of the bad buzz could be due to the fact that this is a VERY comic book-y comic book movie? By that I mean this movie seems to be reveling in the fantastic elements of its source material, as opposed to downplaying them like the more successful Nolan Batman movies do?

Granted, to do a GL movie justice, the space battles, galactic police force, and giant green hands coming out of his ring to punch people should be included...but is the tone right in your opinion (that being, from the little we've seen in the trailer).
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To me that's not why I don't like it. It has nothing to do with how down played or crazy over the top the mythology is, but how it's put together. Here, according tot the trailer. It just looks lame, there's no kick ass action moment, an actually funny one liner, or genially good acting clip in the trailer. Take the one fake fan made trailer that had Nathan Fillion as Hal. That trailer was able to build up the fantasy of space element and made me want to explore that world and mythology. The real trailer had nothing to make it seem exciting or interesting. Which is crazy considering that fake trailer was usually only stuff that has already been made by other people and this original piece can't do it on it's own.

DIrishB said:
I guess what I'm saying, from the way things appear in the trailer, what do you think went wrong?
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Too me the trailer seems to imply the movie is focusing on the wrong things a Green Lantern movie should be about. It looks too much like a comedy movie with super powers than a galactic peace keeper fighting alien threats. And for Superheros that can work well with that comedy aspect Green Lantern is low on the list. So I have the feeling that the light-hearted comedy will make the film seem like they didn't taken seriously. It's like they want it to be Iron Man in the comedy/action but didn't have the talent or time to make it right.

But like you said it's all based on that one trailer
 
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Captain Canuck said:
it went wrong in a few areas:

1) choosing a lead actress because she is pretty instead of choosing one who can act. I had never heard of Blake Lively before she was cast for this, but based on the two lines she had in the trailer, she's not good at all.
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That's quite a jump. She's been the lead in a show for several years now, and while I've only seen her in The Town and SNL, but she was surprisingly good and versatile in both.

2) it seems to me that the trailer didn't show what the bulk of the movie is going to be about. It played it off as a stupid half-hearted attempt to recreate what made Iron Man cool, except without any of the realism and more sci-fi. I'm still clinging to hope that the bulk of the movie will be an epic space opera with a little bit of Iron Man-esque humour thrown in and the trailer didn't focus on that b/c they didn't want to give too much away.
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This, I think, is the most important thing to consider. The fan-made Fillion trailer looked like a much more original and interesting film, but it didn't have tens of millions of dollars to potentially lose by speaking its mind. This could well be easing people in with an Iron Man-type approach before selling them on a more unique space opera-type story.

I also think there's a good chance all this "bad buzz" stuff has been snowballing under its own power on the internet. I dunno. The trailer looked decent and intriguing to me, but among my non-fanboy friends, the response was amazing. Especially among girls, some of whom I've never SEEN talk about a superhero movie since Spider-Man, who are crazy about Reynolds now. It could easily be a hit, and that article talking about how Iron Man, the single biggest example of a trailer for a lesser-known superhero movie winning everybody over and creating a massive hit "didn't thrill anyone".... is clearly full of **** anyway.
 
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I think a lot of the growing back lash against the Green Lantern movie is "fanboys" on the internet feeding off of one another. Let's be honest, even those comic book fans who say that the trailer looks like **** and that they won't even see it in theaters, are probably going to be there opening weekend, especially if early reviews are positive. This trailer wasn't made for comic book fans, who know who the Green Lantern is. It was made for the general audience, upon whom the success or failure of this movie will depend. The point is to let these people know that this movie even exists. In other words, I wouldn't judge the movie too much based upon this one trailer.

As for Blake Lively, while I agree that the delivery of her line from the trailer seemed off, she was good in The Town. So it's a bit harsh to say she's a terrible actress, based upon one line in a trailer.
 
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For me personally, nothing about GREEN LANTERN interests me. I have no interest in any of the actors (not because they're awful or anything, but because I hardly know them - I don't think I've actually seen Ryan Renolds in anything), and because I think Green Lantern isn't a particularly good superhero, nor is the universe he inhabits even remotely appealing.

And nothing in the trailer made me change my mind. I'm sure I'll see the movie, because I sincerely hope it'll make me like Green Lantern as much as so many other people do.

I also agree with the idea that it's possible this trailer is a tease to get people into the idea before going all sci-fi crazy. It's certainly plausible. I just have a terrible feeling that the film will be designed similarly, and that this first move is just 'setting things up' (which it will). We'll see.
 
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Planet-man said:
That's quite a jump. She's been the lead in a show for several years now, and while I've only seen her in The Town and SNL, but she was surprisingly good and versatile in both.
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As for Blake Lively, while I agree that the delivery of her line from the trailer seemed off, she was good in The Town. So it's a bit harsh to say she's a terrible actress, based upon one line in a trailer.
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you may be right, I didn't realize she had been in a real show and a movie previous to this. I thought she was from one of those semi-reality shows (like the hills or Jersey Shore) in which the characters don't really act. I jumped to a conclusion based on that misconception coupled with the terrible delivery of the two lines she had in the trailer.

So I'll drop that point.
 
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