X-Men: First Class discussion (spoilers!)

How would you rate X-Men: First Class?

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Gothamite said:
Was anyone else put off by the complete lack of smoking in the film? It was set in the early 60s and there should have been plumes of cigarette and cigar smoke in every scene and there was nothing. Usually the villains will at least be seen doing it.

I think Wolverine might have been the only person who smoked in the whole film and even then, there's a possibility his cigar wasn't even lit.

This is going to be even more annoying in the Captain America movie.
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This doesn't have to do with the movies, but I read that in the comics Joe Quesada had a non-smoking policy for a while.

I thought it was kind of hilarious that Sebastian Shaw looked directly at Darwin when he said the word "enslaved," because I guess it was in keeping with the '60s.

TheManWithoutFear said:
I'm gonna clear this up right now The Dark Knight was a 5 star movie and a better 5 star movie than X-Men: First Class (which is also a 5 star movie IMO [and apparently only my opinion])

Am I getting it right that everyone here just believes that The Dark Knight was so great nothing can get a 5 star rating now? Or am I being ignorant and not looking at the rating trend and not realizing you guys don't give 5 star ratings?
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There are plenty of other 5-star movies. First Class just wasn't one of them.
 
ProjectX2 said:
Because I thought Super 8 was better than X-Men: First Class. Opinions are opinions; why does it matter you're the only one that gave it 5 stars?
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It doesn't. I just thought that I'm on a comic book board and a really good movie came out that can save a franchise most of us love and someone would else would give it a higher rating. Because I thought I saw some pretty bad comic book movies get some pretty good praise from a few people. I'm just surprised I was the only one. But you apparently think that I should be mocked or something for thinking this? I'm not offended people didn't give it 5 stars I didn't put anyone down for it. I was proactively searching for someone with common taste I guess.

Langsta said:
I thought it was kind of hilarious that Sebastian Shaw looked directly at Darwin when he said the word "enslaved," because I guess it was in keeping with the '60s.
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My friend talks about that like it was the greatest most interesting thing in the movie. He thought it was hilarious. And I don't think either of us thought it was just Shaw looking at Darwin. I think it was the fact that camera face planted him right when the word was said.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Am I getting it right that everyone here just believes that The Dark Knight was so great nothing can get a 5 star rating now? Or am I being ignorant and not looking at the rating trend and not realizing you guys don't give 5 star ratings?
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You are completely misunderstanding. TDK is a superb film, but that doesn't mean others can't be as superb or even more. The thing is (in mine & others' opinions) that XFC & others just haven't gone to that level that would make it such a film on the level of TDK.

If you don't notice 5 star ratings, you haven't noticed Scott Pilgrim vs The World get it from some people.
 
Who's mocking you? You seem to be taking this way too seriously.
 
I fail to understand how something can be a better 5 star movie than another 5 star movie. Like, is it better at having 5 stars than the other? Are those 5 stars more starry than the other movie's 5 stars?
 
Bass said:
Right. But then why does the Overlord tell me that I shouldn't be bringing it up when I didn't bring it up? Surely he should be quoting MWOF and responding to him, not me. And I was the third person to respond.

I know I'm the nexus and everyone hangs on my every word, but sometimes it would be nice to not be told how importantly awesome I am to every discussion we have here. ;)
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I just brought that because I'm bit sick of people comparing every comic book movie to Dark Knight, I don't think its a fair comparison, Dark Knight is the best of this genre, so there is no shame in not being better then the Best. Expecting every comic book movie to be as good as Dark Knight is like expecting every crime movie to be as good the Godfather, its not realistic and sets yourself up for disappointment.
 
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The Overlord said:
I just brought that because I'm bit sick of people comparing every comic book movie to Dark Knight, I don't think its a fair comparison, Dark Knight is the best of this genre, so there is no shame in not being better then the Best. Expecting every comic book movie to be as good as Dark Knight is like expecting every crime movie to be as good the Godfather, its not realistic and sets yourself up for disappointment.
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Which is why I didn't bring it up until MWOF compared the two.
 
I don't think you should be. I'm just miffed that I'm getting reamed for comparing the two when I didn't. I think it's perfectly valid to compare the two, and I think you asked a reasonable question about FIRST CLASS' reception.
 
Bass said:
Which is why I didn't bring it up until MWOF compared the two.
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I just wanted to make my point that I was sick of people measuring every comic book movie movie to the Dark Knight and choose your post to make that point at random, there was no agenda behind it.

Anyway getting back on topic, it seems interesting that Shaw was more like Ultimate Magneto then 616 Shaw. 616 Shaw was just corporate business man, a poor man's Lex Luthor, here he was a psychopathic monster who used mutant supremacy beliefs to justify all sorts of hideous acts of evil and had no sympathetic qualities and was comparable to the Nazis, like Ultimate Magneto, it made for an interesting contrast with the more sympathetic Magneto in the movie.
 
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Bass said:
and I think you asked a reasonable question about FIRST CLASS' reception.
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Thank you Bass.

Overlord said:
Anyway getting back on topic, it seems interesting that Shaw was more like Ultimate Magneto then 616 Shaw. 616 Shaw was just corporate business man, a poor man's Lex Luthor, here he was a psychopathic monster who used mutant supremacy beliefs to justify all sorts of hideous acts of evil and had no sympathetic qualities and was comparable to the Nazis, like Ultimate Magneto, it made for an interesting contrast with the more sympathetic Magneto in the movie.
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I thought they were the same. Erik was just trying to accomplish one goal before moving onto supremacy and when He defeated Shaw he took over the mantel.
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
Thank you Bass.

I thought they were the same. Erik was just trying to accomplish one goal before moving onto supremacy and when He defeated Shaw he took over the mantel.
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Except Magneto has a tragic back story that explains why he is so messed up, Shaw is just a monster, there is no reason why he is that evil, he just is. Also I don't think Movie Magneto had acts of on screen cruelty that matched what Shaw did Darwin or what he did to Magneto's mother.
 
The Overlord said:
Except Magneto has a tragic back story that explains why he is so messed up, Shaw is just a monster, there is no reason why he is that evil, he just is. Also I don't think Movie Magneto had acts of on screen cruelty that matched what Shaw did Darwin or what he did to Magneto's mother.
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That's why Movie Magneto (and similarly 616 Magneto) have always been better than Ultimate.
 
bluebeast said:
That's why Movie Magneto (and similarly 616 Magneto) have always been better than Ultimate.
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I like pure evil villains, I just don't like Magneto as one, I prefer him to be sympathetic. But it is always interesting to contrast Magneto with a far more evil villain, like Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister, Shaw, etc. It is part of what made the rivalry between Magneto and Shaw work in this film, Magneto strikes out against humanity at the end, because they choose to attack him and his followers, Shaw attacks humanity, because he is power mad psychopath with delusions of grandeur like Ultimate Magneto. Both have similar goals, but extremely different approaches. I don't think 616 Magneto would like ultimate Magneto very much.
 
Great movie. Best X-Men film ever.

Though it's kind of that by default, seeing as the previous 4 were more "Wolverine plus some other guys" then X-Men films.
 
This movie was pure popcorn fun. Big, dumb summer entertainment done right. (Take note, Michael Bay!) 3 out of 4, or B+
and,
Rose Byrne > January Jones.









(But Jennifer Lawrence > both of them)
 
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