It's alright, what I tried to explain is that your point is perhaps a bit muddled. There's two points being made here I think:
1) That more time could have passed on Asgard than on Sakaar. So, despite there seemingly being about 3 days passing for Thor on Sakaar, when he gets off the planet, a week or two or however long has passed for the rest of the universe. This is possible, because time runs "different" on Sakaar - although, I don't feel like it's likely to have been more than about 3 days personally.
2) That the reason that more time could have passed on Asgard is because when Thor arrives on Sakaar, it's been weeks for Loki. This, however, actually supports the other way around. If this were the rule of correlation, then time would pass much faster on Sakaar - if someone in Asgard had a live camera feed showing Sakaar, it would look like it's on fast-forward, and if someone on Sakaar had a live camera feed showing Asgard, it would look like it's in slow-motion. Weeks on Sakaar = mere seconds elsewhere. By that logic, with Thor spending 3 days on Sakaar, only about 1 second would have passed elsewhere. He'd be arriving on Asgard only just as Hela also arrived like a second after she threw him out of the Bifrost.
But, despite this, more time passing on Asgard is still possible. There is also evidence for time passing slower on Asgard, because the Grandmaster suggests that people can be younger on Sakaar than they should be. While he's being all Goldblum-y and not necessarily telling the truth about himself and his age when he trails off, the implication of the possibility is still there. And, as well as this, is what I was saying about Valkyrie. For her, it's perhaps been only a few hundred years, when outside of Sakaar, it's been over 1000 years. This would suggest that on Sakaar, time actually passes slower - the opposite of the Loki stuff. If someone watched Valkyrie on a live feed from Asgard for the last 1000+ years and the correlation was constant, it would have always look like she was moving in slow-motion at like 0.5x speed, but this is different to the Loki stuff, where he'd be moving in fast-forward at like 200,000x speed.
Basically, there's contradictory evidence, so the conclusion can be reached that there is no constant correlation between the time passing on Sakaar and the rest of the universe. It speeds up and slows down randomly, "Time works real different."
So, the amount of time that passes on Asgard could be less, the same, or more than the 3 days on Sakaar.
Basically, yes - your point is perfectly valid. It's possible more time passed on Asgard than Sakaar. But not because of the Loki Sakaar stuff, which actually suggests the opposite.
And, just personally, I'd say that it doesn't seem like Asgard has been more than a few days - that it seems once Thor lands on Sakaar that time is pretty much in sync with Asgard, with about 3 days passing for both, and that this would make sense as well for why he and Heimdall are in sync when Heimdall shows him what's happening on Asgard.
Gotcha. Appreciate you taking the time to discuss. Had a thought in the car, curious what you think. Now it seems to be established through certain ages (Grandmaster and Valkyrie) and Grandmaster's line about how he would look much older that it's possible that time on Sakaar runs slower than everywhere else with the only contradictory evidence seemingly being Loki's line about being there a few weeks. But, what if he was, what if through no speed up or slow down he was actually there for a few weeks? Thor, if I recall correctly, is the only person we see come out of a worm hole. And although I have no knowledge of space time, is it possible that Thor, skipped weeks ahead, arriving in what he thought was a short amount of time, but actually weeks ahead? Just curious.
When Tony checks the flip-phone it's 1:21. When Bruce picks it up after the fight it's 1:40-something.
It was definitely meant to be middle of the night in Scotland, and the train station wasn't abandoned. Didn't catch any time there, but it would have to be hours after the NYC scuffle, since as best we can tell Cap's team was in the Middle East. So they'd have to decide where to start looking, make the flight, then track them down. So for whatever reason, the mind stone was difficult for Proxima and Corvus to track.
The hologram played from Nebula's memory had to be after Ragnarok, since Nebula is warning Gamora of Thanos ramping up his efforts and preparing to start grabbing stones personally/more aggressively. Thanos says that Nebula boarded his ship and tried to kill him "some time ago". Obviously flexible dialogue, but to me that means a good while and in no way recent. This would further support the little gap between end of Ragnarok and its mid-credits scene.
I did not see a clock in the car for the post-credit scene, but if it was daylight when Cap and co. Got to Avengers HQ, it'd have to be 10-something, like y'all said, at the absolute earliest.
Someone on the wiki had a theory I quite liked. They suggested that the Infinity Gauntlet had been a concept for a very long time, and that's why Odin had a fake one in his vault in 2010 (wiki timeline)/2011 (this timeline), but had never actually been forged because it was so dangerous. However, some time when Asgard was not around to help - either during Loki's time on the throne, or post-destruction, so between November 2013 and early 2018 - Thanos went to Nidavellir and forced Eitri to forge the gauntlet. Assuming that the Age of Ultron scene is the same gauntlet, he could be taking it from Nidavellir now that it's complete, or it could be that he had it forged some time soon after Thor: The Dark World and had it stored away, waiting for Ronan to deliver him the Power Stone. When he didn't, some time after, he decided, "Fine, I'll do it myself," and retrieved Eitri's specially-forged gauntlet from storage.
To me, that theory doesn't really work. So Thor was chilling on Earth and likely visiting Asgard periodically for less than two months after TDW. The Avengers reassembled and spent all of 2014 and part of 2015 looking for the scepter, and we know Heimdall was still operating the Bifrost this entire time. I don't think there's any way Heimdall lets Nidavellir get slaughtered on his watch.
Thor then goes on his quest for the stones/investigation into why they're popping up so frequently. This takes over 2 years, and at the beginning of Ragnarok, Thor still thinks Heimdall is there to beam him up. Obviously there's a lot of flexibility with how frequently (if at all) Thor has used the Bifrost to move around or visited Asgard. Also flexible is the length of time that's passed since Loki branded Heimdall a traitor and replaced him with Skurge.
To me, I don't see Thanos having the Gauntlet made until after it's clear that Asgard is no longer protecting the 9 realms. I personally think that's best after the destruction of Asgard, but it could be weaseled in there between Ultron and Ragnarok... but I'd say several months after Thor left on his quest in 2015.
The Age of Ultron credits scene is basically up in the air. Markus and McFeely actually said recently that they weren't going to address that scene and that they weren't really sure what was supposed to be going on in the scene - it's clearly pretty disconnected.
That really sums it up. It was just a stupid throwaway scene to remind the audience about the bad guy for the next Avengers flick, with no foresight into where Markus and McFeely were gonna go with it. I'm not taking it too seriously, just having some fun now that it's relevant again.
Next week's promo for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x21 shows scenes taking place during the morning.
So we're going to have to start seeing characters fade out of existence in the next episode, unless it all takes place before 10:20 EST per the time on the car clock seen in the Infinity War post credit scene.
After seeing IW for my second time yesterday, I think I got a time in Scotland. After the fight, while Cap is walking towards Vision there is a large clock face behind him. It's very out of focus, but it looked to me that it was about 9:10. Maybe if someone is seeing it again this weekend they can look to confirm.
I'm going to go backwards in the timeline a few years. I haven't seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D since the Ghost Rider arc (just didn't have time) and I need to catch up. I'm just now discovering all the webisodes.
So we have Slingshot on the timeline. Ok, cool. I think it would be a good idea to add YouTube links to the episodes as well, since I don't think they have or will have a physical release. What about the other webisodes: Academy, Double Agent and Operation Recruitment? The last one is especially hard to find info about online. I know these mix "real world" with MCU, but is there any way for them to fit in the timeline, same with the Team Thor/ Team Darryl shorts?
Also, are there any other Web exclusives besides Slingshot, Operation Recruitment, Double Agent, Academy, Team Thor 1 and 2, Team Darryl, the 10 WHIH videos, the Stark Expo videos, Runaways Thanksgiving and the Rand one? Am I correct in that Team Thor 2, Team Darryl and Ant Man related WHiH videos are the only internet videos to get a Blu/ DVD release?
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I feel like leaving it on the timeline as it is would be the most natural for viewing, but the film seems to jump around in time a lot.
When Thor's ship is destroyed, I think it took the Guardians less time to get to the wreckage than it took for the Maw and Cull to get to New York. Proxima and Corvus finding Vision and Wanda would have to be at least a little while later than the Maw and Cull in New York because Banner had to tell Cap about everything. So I think the order would go like this:
- Thor's ship destroyed
- Guardians find Thor - Thor/Rocket/Groot leave for Nidavellir
- The Maw and Cull attack New York
- Guardians at Knowhere/Thanos takes Gamora
- Proxima and Corvus in Scotland
- Gamora tells Thanos where the soul stone is/Nebula escapes and tells the Guardians to go to Titan
- The Maw's ship is taken by Iron Man
- Cap goes to the Avengers facility
- Guardians meet Iron Man's ship on Titan
- Thanos sacrifices Gamora and gets the soul stone
- Cap arrives on Wakanda
and the rest of the movie is pretty much happening as it's shown on-screen.
I'm going to go backwards in the timeline a few years. I haven't seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D since the Ghost Rider arc (just didn't have time) and I need to catch up. I'm just now discovering all the webisodes.
So we have Slingshot on the timeline. Ok, cool. I think it would be a good idea to add YouTube links to the episodes as well, since I don't think they have or will have a physical release. What about the other webisodes: Academy, Double Agent and Operation Recruitment? The last one is especially hard to find info about online. I know these mix "real world" with MCU, but is there any way for them to fit in the timeline, same with the Team Thor/ Team Darryl shorts?
No, the AoS Operation Recruitment, Double Agent, Academy webisodes aren't even set in the MCU. They're behind the scenes/promo stuff, not actual story/plot dependent episodes actually set in the MCU timeline like Slingshot is. Same with Team Thor, since it's just a fun tongue in cheek mockumentary (seriously, it's not meant to be taken seriously that Thor was rooming with some dude named Daryl during Civil War, it's just a joke). We also know it CAN'T fit into MCU continuity since Team Thor is obviously supposed to happen during or soon after events of Civil War. Yet Banner appears in Team Thor, despite Ragnarok confirming he spent the two years between AoU and Ragnarok on Sakaar.
Also, are there any other Web exclusives besides Slingshot, Operation Recruitment, Double Agent, Academy, Team Thor 1 and 2, Team Darryl, the 10 WHIH videos, the Stark Expo videos, Runaways Thanksgiving and the Rand one? Am I correct in that Team Thor 2, Team Darryl and Ant Man related WHiH videos are the only internet videos to get a Blu/ DVD release?
I feel like leaving it on the timeline as it is would be the most natural for viewing, but the film seems to jump around in time a lot.
When Thor's ship is destroyed, I think it took the Guardians less time to get to the wreckage than it took for the Maw and Cull to get to New York. Proxima and Corvus finding Vision and Wanda would have to be at least a little while later than the Maw and Cull in New York because Banner had to tell Cap about everything. So I think the order would go like this:
- Thor's ship destroyed
- Guardians find Thor - Thor/Rocket/Groot leave for Nidavellir
- The Maw and Cull attack New York
- Guardians at Knowhere/Thanos takes Gamora
- Proxima and Corvus in Scotland
- Gamora tells Thanos where the soul stone is/Nebula escapes and tells the Guardians to go to Titan
- The Maw's ship is taken by Iron Man
- Cap goes to the Avengers facility
- Guardians meet Iron Man's ship on Titan
- Thanos sacrifices Gamora and gets the soul stone
- Cap arrives on Wakanda
and the rest of the movie is pretty much happening as it's shown on-screen.
I dunno, I don't see any reason to assume that given its all based on assumptions, right? Why would you assume it took Guardians less time to get to the Asgardian wreckage than it took for Thanos' Children to get to Earth? I think odds are Thanos has advanced tech likely beyond even the Guardians, as largely indicated in their battle with Nova Corps against Ronan, and Thanos easily obliterating the entire Nova Corps before he'd gotten even a single one of the Stones. His habit of conquering inevitably means acquiring advanced tech along the way.
Plus, and most important... we know it doesn't take them long at all to get to Earth, since Thanos has the Space Stone. We also see their ships have a "beam up" ability and I think they were shown teleporting if I recall correctly.
Either way, there's no logical reason as of now to re-arrange the film. As presented it seems perfectly in line chronologically, unless some new info is provided.
So after watching last night's AoS episode, it seems entirely possible the series will end either before Infinity War does (with Thanos' snapping his fingers) or simultaneously with that.
Episode 5x19-5x20 occur one right after the other, and occur during night time, set likely after the New York battle (obviously since its mentioned in 5x19) and the Scotland battle, but before Cap, Widow, Falcon, etc arrive at the Avengers compound with Wanda and Vision (the scene with Ross and Rhodes) since that occurs the next morning if I recall correctly (could be wrong, can't remember if the establishing shot of the Avengers compound before that scene was night or day time).
Either way, it seems very likely the season finale will align with Thanos' snap.
So after watching last night's AoS episode, it seems entirely possible the series will end either before Infinity War does (with Thanos' snapping his fingers) or simultaneously with that.
Episode 5x19-5x20 occur one right after the other, and occur during night time, set likely after the New York battle (obviously since its mentioned in 5x19) and the Scotland battle, but before Cap, Widow, Falcon, etc arrive at the Avengers compound with Wanda and Vision (the scene with Ross and Rhodes) since that occurs the next morning if I recall correctly (could be wrong, can't remember if the establishing shot of the Avengers compound before that scene was night or day time).
Either way, it seems very likely the season finale will align with Thanos' snap.
I've been doing some time zone and timing notes for how everything slots together. I lost a bit of my work in a laptop problem, but I'll let you guys know when I've redone it in the next couple of days.
You listed the backstory of the Vibranium meteor as 2,500,000 Million Years Ago, but it's only 2,5 million years ago.
You should list it as either "2,5 Million Years Ago" or as "2,500,000 Years Ago".
Also, since you moved Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:18:34 - 2:19:59) to after Black Panther, then you should also move Avengers - Infinity War: Prelude #1 (pg. 13-14) alongside it, since that's when Bucky gets frozen.
I watched Civil War last night and noticed Steve has the same bruises In the Wakanda end credits scene that he does at the end with Bucky going into cryogenic sleep. I don't think this scene can take place that long after the end of the main events like we have it currently...
I watched Civil War last night and noticed Steve has the same bruises In the Wakanda end credits scene that he does at the end with Bucky going into cryogenic sleep. I don't think this scene can take place that long after the end of the main events like we have it currently...
I just now noticed it was after BP here. I know the Prelude comic says "weeks later" but I think that's wrong.
It would be fine there if not for Shuri's line about "another broken white boy for me to fix". Clearly a Bucky reference. Plus the bruises, like you said.
I've had bruises last a little over a week, but not much. Then again I've never been pummeled by Iron Man lol. But then you have to consider Cap's accelerated healing factor.
You listed the backstory of the Vibranium meteor as 2,500,000 Million Years Ago, but it's only 2,5 million years ago.
You should list it as either "2,5 Million Years Ago" or as "2,500,000 Years Ago".
Also, since you moved Captain America - Civil War Chapter 19: "End Credits" (2:18:34 - 2:19:59) to after Black Panther, then you should also move Avengers - Infinity War: Prelude #1 (pg. 13-14) alongside it, since that's when Bucky gets frozen.
Fixed for those. Also, the CA-CW post credit scene I moved back to just after the events of CW, as it makes sense for Bucky to be frozen before events of BP to explain Shuri's "another white boy" line.
What makes you think that? Infinity War seems to cover about a day, running from early afternoon of Day 1 to around same time the following day (more or less, accounting for different time zones). AoS 5x19 and 5x20 occurred after the attacks on New York and Scotland, the night between those scenes and the Avengers HQ scene with Rhodey and Ross the next morning. It's entirely possible 5x21 will occur in morning before that HQ scene as well, with final episode paralleling latter portion of film, possibly ending with bunch of agents turning to ash to tie into IW ending...
So the 5x21 promo should pick up the morning of the snap. If the next couple episodes of AoS don't cover a long span of time, it works out even with the time zone differences.
I watched Civil War last night and noticed Steve has the same bruises In the Wakanda end credits scene that he does at the end with Bucky going into cryogenic sleep. I don't think this scene can take place that long after the end of the main events like we have it currently...
Just wanted to drop this by, I'm currently reading Heroes' Journey and there was a passage toward the end of the Thor section
"In his heart, Heimdall knew it was right. He could tell by looking at the faces of the people throughout the ship that naming a new king of Asgard would give them faith and hope and the will to carry on. That would prove vital in the days, weeks, and months to come."
This could be indication that they were on the ship for a while or it could be nothing at all, but either way it is here for your consideration.
Also, I'm collecting data for my MCU project and I was wondering if anyone here could link me to the interview in which Kevin Feige says Iron Man 3 happened six months after Avengers? I've looked everywhere, but the only one I can find has the interviewer saying it, and Feige not acknowledging the comment. But, the internet insists that Kevin Feige has said this, so I'm trying to track it down. Any help would be appreciated.
I saw this yesterday, and it's interesting enough at first, but then you keep reading and it sort of just falls apart the longer it goes on. No more than a fan theory.
On the Spider-Man: Homecoming Blu Ray, there are two special features that could possibly be canon. Midtown News: Final Segment and Mr. Harrington: Lessons In Love. Check em out and let me know.
I've seen those; they seem a little like deleted scenes/background material dressed up as standalone bits, so they're a little different from a regular "deleted scene". There's also this pop-up video for Trish Walker's "Cray Cray" that's in-universe and seems to date from her hayday.
Regarding the Wakanda Civil War credits scene, we didn't really see it as a mistake, because there's numerous potential explanations. For example, the comic seems to imply that in the "weeks" since Civil War, they have been trying to come up with a solution for Bucky but haven't found something yet, and have come to the conclusion that for now, the best option is to freeze him. So, in Black Panther, either Bucky has already arrived in Wakanda and Shuri has been trying to come up with a solution, or she's been told about Bucky and that she'll be having to work on him. With the beginning of the film seemingly - and as synopses have said - being T'Challa's first return to Wakanda after his father's death, and the comic saying "weeks later", we decided that it should place after the film, and not before or during the first half.
Also, on my second viewing, I too caught the 10:24 in Fury's car. I didn't catch the clock in Scotland - I can see where it is, from going to that scene on an online version - it's immediately after the Q-ship in Edinburgh flies away. But the angle is very hard to see, and the online versions have the clock-face looking too bright.
Something else that I noticed this time, which weirdly, I hadn't thought of before, was specifics about Thor's hair. It's almost exactly the same as in Ragnarok, including the streaks on the side of his head from Stan Lee's bad haircutting skills. This would also suggest it's been very little time since the events of the film. It's possible that Asgardian hair grows slower than humans, but yeah, just another point there.
I've been doing time zone working and working out the rough timings for all the Infinity War and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. scenes to see how it fits together and where the divides are between days.
The Episode 20 notes are not particularly firmly timed, because there is no next milestone to match it with, like a sunrise to stretch the night's events across - it's just working forwards from the previous timings.
Also, the timings come from an assumption of January 10th-11th, considering it doesn't seem like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. can be later than early January. With Tony's phone saying it's Wednesday, and the S.H.I.E.L.D. events picking up a few days prior in early January, then the earliest it can be is January 10th. So that's the date I used for the timings, with it being the only date I can see working - plus, it's closer to Ragnarok. The sunrise and sunset times would be slightly different depending on the time of year, though, if it were a bit later than January 10th-11th.
But here's the results:
WEDNESDAY
•13:05-12 - The Statesman. ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. Hulk is sent off about 2 minutes before the end of the scene, and that is at least 2 minutes before "Thanos is coming."
•13:12 - "Thanos is coming." ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 2 minutes after Hulk was sent from The Statesman. At least 5 minutes before they talk to Tony and Pepper, because Bruce has to get changed.
•13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony. ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 4-5 minutes after "Thanos is coming." At least 2-3 minutes before the discussion in the Sanctum.
•13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum. ---13:21 - Tony checks the phone. The Q-ship arrives.
•"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05.
•13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship.
•13:42 - Bruce calls Steve. ---"01:42PM" shown on phone.
•13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor. ---Immediately after so as to minimise the time since The Statesman exploded.
•13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened.
•14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom. ---Now things get problematic, and it's all because the Avengers Facility scene is shown to be daytime, when it should be night. ---The birds are cheeping when they return to the New Avengers Facility, suggesting it's the morning, which would mean it's after the 07:19 sunrise - earliest possible 07:25. However, the problem there is that the flight after that from New York to Wakanda (which, from the map in Civil War, is by Lake Turkana, Kenya) is about 7094.589 miles. Quinjet top speeds have been calculated to be about 1600mph - which happens to match the comics' Quinjet top speed of Mach 2.1, which is 1611.27mph. 7094.589 miles/1611.27mph = a 4:24 flight. Even at the dangerous absolute top speed of about 2000mph from The Team, 7094.589 miles/2000mph = 3:33 flight. Including time to get up to top speed, there is absolutely no way the jet is getting to Wakanda before 11:05 New York time, which would be 18:05 Wakanda time - with Wakanda's sunset being 18:46. If they went at absolute top speed and the Wakanda events happened as fast as absolutely possible, you could just about, juuusssttt squeeze the Wakanda events in before sunset, finishing no later than 18:40, 11:40 New York. However, Fury's car in the credits scene says "10:24", and the scene was shot in Atlanta. This would suggest that the scene takes place 10:24 east coast, so 17:24 Wakanda time - but that's before the earliest time that they could possibly have even arrived in Wakanda. Even if it's another time zone and not Atlanta, which would be odd because it looks like Atlanta, it is still a :24, meaning the latest it can be is 11:24 east coast, 18:24 Wakanda, and there's just no way that all the Wakanda events take place in 19 minutes between arrival and the snap - especially with that already assuming that the Avengers went dangerously fast to get to Wakanda already. More likely than it being not Atlanta is the car clock being wrong, but then we're back to still pushing it with 11:40. Also, with it being night in Scotland, if it is morning in New York when they arrive, they must have delayed for several hours before getting back, despite the scene showing Steve directing them "home" (the facility), straight there. ---So, OK, what if the New Avengers Facility scene is actually still on the Wednesday, just before sunset? Sunset is 16:47, so realistically, the latest this can be is 16:40. Well, that wouldn't really make sense with the birds tweeting, but that's not particularly bad - can it fit in otherwise? From Edinburgh Waverley station to New York is about 3262.368 miles. 3262.368 miles/1611.27mph maximum is a 2:01 flight + a few minutes of speeding up and slowing down, which would mean that the latest they could have left Scotland really is 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, to get there by 16:40. So, Steve and co. got there by 14:30, arriving in Wakanda about 48 minutes after Bruce called at 13:42. If they got on the jet immediately, it's a 45-minute journey. 0.75 hours*1611.27mph = 1208.4525 miles maximum that they could have been from Edinburgh. The majority of Europe is within that radius, so if they were in Europe at the time of being called, that works - especially with them mentioning that the plan was always for Vision and Scarlet Witch to stay nearby. And then that allows for the finale to fit comfortably before 10:42 and before the Wakanda sunset. However, Bwdelano says that the clock-face shown at an angle behind Steve after the fight in Edinburgh Waverley station (specifically the shot after you see the Q-ship leave) looks like it might read as 9:10. I didn't catch it myself, it was too fast, and online versions are too unfocused to see any hands. This would make it 21:10, so 16:10 New York, and therefore they cannot get back to the facility before sunset, so it would have to be the next morning. However, apart from the implication from the bird noises and the possible clock-face, this way around works. It also works better for Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight only just turning up, being pretty soon after New York is attacked rather than several hours, as well as the fact that the news is showing the New York events as "breaking news". This also means that the jet can simply go straight back to the facility from Scotland, which makes more sense. And, if the facility scene is that afternoon instead of the next morning, that would also make more sense for the Q-ship Doctor Strange scenes which pick up afterwards - it would allow those scenes to be more like 11 hours after Tony and Peter got on-board, instead of about 19. It seems like Tony and Peter haven't been on-board very long when Tony realises Peter's still there, so the less time the better. ---The third option is that the film actually lasts not 21.5 hours, but 45.5 hours. So the facility scene would be the following morning of the Thursday, but then the Wakanda events are the morning after that, the Friday. This seems unlikely since it would mean that Strange, Tony, and Peter don't eat or drink for 2 days as they travel, and generally doesn't fit with the feel of the film. This possibility though comes down to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the end. If the events of the last 2 episodes carry through to the next morning and coincide with the end of the film, then it's just 21.5 hours. If they spend a whole day still fine, with the end of the film having not occurred yet by next afternoon, then the film lasts 45.5 hours. ---For now though, I'm assuming that the facility scene is 16:40 on the Wednesday, as this is currently the most-supported option, but will put the other options up as well in case. ---So, this scene, about 25 minutes before the fighting ends at 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, would be about 14:10 New York/19:10 Scotland.
•14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.
•15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible. ---Two scenes between 14:35 and 16:40, so 16:40 - 14:35 = 2:05. 2:05/3 = 0:41.66667. 14:35 + 0:41.66667 = 15:16.66667, 15:17. ---Otherwise, two scenes between 16:10 and 07:25, so Thursday 07:25 - Wednesday 16:10 = 15:15. 15:15/3 = 5:05. 16:10 + 5:05 = 21:15.
•15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere. ---15:16.66667 + 0:41.66667 = 15:58.33333, 15:58. ---Otherwise, 21:15 + 5:05 = 02:20.
•16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility. ---As explained, either 16:40 or Thursday 07:25.
•23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm. ---If you were to distribute the scenes between the facility and the arrival in Wakanda, this would be soon after the facility scene. However, by 16:40 New York, we're at 23:40 Wakanda, which is way after sunset. Sunrise in Wakanda is 06:34, so 23:34 New York, so the earliest this scene can be - placing it as early as possible - is 23:45/06:45 New York. ---If the facility is 07:25, then we're already just distributing the scenes between this and the next time-allocated scene, when they arrive in Wakanda at 11:05ish absolute earliest. So 9 scenes between 07:25 and 11:05. 11:05 - 07:25 = 3:40. 3:40/10 = 0:22. 07:25 + 0:22 = 07:47. ---Or, if the film spans 45.5 hours, then we're looking at 07:25 on the Thursday to 09:30 on the Friday. So 10 scenes between Thursday 07:25 and Friday 09:30. Friday 09:30 - Thursday 07:25 = 26:05. 26:05/10 = 2:36.5. 07:25 + 2:36.5 = 10:01.5, 10:02.
THURSDAY
•00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan. ---8 scenes between 23:45 and 09:30 (which is the natural time for their arrival in Wakanda if you work back from 10:24). 09:30 - 23:45 = 9:45. 9:45/9 = 1:05. 23:45 + 1:05 = 00:50. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 07:47 + 0:22 = 08:09. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 10:01.5 + 2:36.5 = 12:38.
•01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.----MIDDLE OF THE FILM---- ---00:50 + 1:05 = 01:55. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:09 + 0:22 = 08:31. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 12:38 + 2:36.5 = 15:14.5, 15:15.
•03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri. ---01:55 + 1:05 = 03:00. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:31 + 0:22 = 08:53. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 15:14.5 + 2:36.5 = 17:51.
•04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis. ---03:00 + 1:05 = 04:05. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:53 + 0:22 = 09:15. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 17:51 + 2:36.5 = 20:27.5, 20:28.
•05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange. ---04:05 + 1:05 = 05:10. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:15 + 0:22 = 09:37. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 20:27.5 + 2:36.5 = 23:04.
•06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker. ---05:10 + 1:05 = 06:15. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:37 + 0:22 = 09:59. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 23:04 + 2:36.5 = 01:40.5, 01:41.
•07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures. ---06:15 + 1:05 = 07:20. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:59 + 0:22 = 10:21. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 01:40.5 + 2:36.5 = 04:17.
•08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir. ---07:20 + 1:05 = 08:25. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 10:21 + 0:22 = 10:43. ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 04:17 + 2:36.5 = 06:53.5, 06:54.
•09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda.
•09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down.
•09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks.
•09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge.
•10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle.
•10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives.
•10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them.
•10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive.
•10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony.
•10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives.
•10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap.
•10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene. ---"10:24" shown in Fury's car.
And the time zones for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.:
SATURDAY
•Events of Episode 14.
[Episode 15]
•Coulson is shown his room.
SUNDAY
•Coulson is given the cereal/Ruby ploy.
•Coulson is told about Ruby being Hale's daughter.
•Coulson is shown the Confederacy machine.
•Coulson meets Qovas.
•Coulson reveals he killed Whitehall.
•Hale reveals that Ruby was designed for the project. However, she suggests Daisy.
•Coulson reveals that he saw the outcome when he and his team were in the future.
•Ruby asks Coulson how she failed, but he reveals that it wasn't her who was the Destroyer of Worlds.
•Ruby shows Coulson what has happened to Talbot.
MONDAY
•The team work out Hale is Hydra.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 15----
•May visits Fitz.
•Mack and Jemma operate to give Yo-Yo her new arms.
•May and Daisy talk to Fitz. Daisy is angry.
•Daisy goes to contact the Hintons.
•Simmons reveals that Deke is their grandson, and tells him she feels they are invincible.
TUESDAY
[Episode 16]
•07:40 - Coulson is in isolation. ---Daytime Appalachian Mountains. Sunrise 07:33. Has to be right after and time has to be absolutely minismised to make this fit, as will be explained.
•07:41 - Hale offers Creel the new material. Ruby asks her mother what she is doing. Coulson has been in isolation for 2 days.
•07:43 - Creel touches the gravitonium.
•07:43 - Yo-Yo tests her new arms.
•07:43 - Fitz is unimpressed with Deke.
•07:45 - Simmons asks Deke about whether she and Fitz survive, and he confirms it.
•07:47 - Zephyr One is leaving to pick up Robin.
•07:53 - Simmons questions Yo-Yo about her feeling that she can't die. Simmons says that Deke is their proof that she and Fitz will also survive, and she promises to get Fitz out.
•07:59 - Hale talks to Creel. Creel is going mad with the noises in his head.
•08:05 - The Retreat. Picking up Robin. ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Zephyr left at 07:47.
•08:18 - Ruby visits Strucker, who says he's close.
•08:18 - 5 minutes out from the Zephyr One. Robin's not helping Daisy. ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Quinjet picked up Robin at 08:00.
•08:18 - Mack is frustrated with Yo-Yo, who wants him to let Fitz out.
•08:18 - Creel can't sleep. He goes to Coulson. ---Earliest possible, still 08:18.
•08:21 - Creel says the gravitonium wants Coulson dead. Coulson tells him what's happened to
Talbot, and Creel takes out the guard and takes Coulson to where he thinks Talbot might be and see if he's telling the truth. ---Earliest possible, 08:16.
•08:23 - Polly wonders what Robin's last drawing meant.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 16---- ---Docking, so 5 minutes after 08:13.
•08:24 - Robin sees May and calls her "Mom". ---Daytime, so before 16:45ish.
•08:24 - They find Talbot.
•08:24 - Simmons and Yo-Yo pull the stunt on Mack.
•08:26 - Yo-Yo accidentally sets off the gun.
•08:26 - May and Robin talk. Robin had stopped drawing. She says Coulson will die. She draws Coulson in a mountain range.
•08:27 - Deke wants sympathy from Daisy.
•08:27 - Creel is going mad as they try to escape. A mech hears them.
•08:28 - An alarm is set off. Hale sends Ruby after them.
•08:28 - The Invincible Three go to the closest location. ---As early as possible, 08:28.
•08:29 - As the alarm goes off, the trio are attack. Coulson's heart stops, but Creel revives him.
•08:30 - Ruby arrives with mechs and they pursue the trio.
•09:12 - May and Polly talk. Robin still wants Polly. There are two scenes between 08:30 and the Invincible Three arriving in Herefordshire. That needs to be as early as possible because very little time has passed for Coulson and Talbot and it has to be as early as possible to still be daytime in Herefordshire by just before the end of the episode. 3378.303 miles, and the top speed of a Quinjet is Mach 2.1 (it can go slightly faster, up to 2000mph in extreme urgency when they need the risky speeds, like in The Team, but otherwise, the top speed is 1611.27mph). 3378.303 miles/1611.27mph = 2:06 flight at top speed, + a few minutes to get up to top speed, so absolute minimum 2:09. They get to Herefordshire at 08:28 + 2:09 = 10:37. 10:37-08:30 = 2:07. 2:07/3 = 0:42.33333, so 08:30 + 0:42.33333 = 09:12.33333. 09:12.
•09:54 - Pinned down. ---Second block of scenes, 09:12.33333 + 0:42.33333 = 09:54.66667. 09:54-09:55.
•09:55 - Escape with the teleport machine.
•09:55 - Creel and Ruby fight. Ruby throws a chakram at Creel, who wedges it in his chest, made of wood. Hale sends Ruby after Coulson and Talbot.
•09:55 - Coulson and Tlabot arrive in the snow.
[Episode 17]
•10:37/15:37 Herefordshire - Herefordshire, skydiving. ---No more than 2½ hours ago it was still daytime in the U.S., which means it is morning U.S./afternoon U.K., not night U.S./morning U.K.. I tried both ways around, and this can just about barely work, the other way cannot work at all. This is why the timings have been like this so far. As explained, 08:28 + 2:09 flight = 10:37 is the very earliest it can be. This is 15:37 Herefordshire, so they've got 42 minutes until sunset at 16:19.
•10:37 - Talbot feels like he let people down.
•10:37 - Ruby goes through the machine.
•10:37 - The team follow the drawing and go to land.
•10:44 - Quake arrives. ---Absolute minimum the team land at 10:41 and this is 10:44.
•10:45 - Daisy meets Ruby and they fight.
•10:46 - Deke gets injured. Hale arrives.
•10:50 - The team try to help Deke.
•10:50 - Piper lets Mack out of Fitz's cell.
•10:50/15:50 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo worries about radiation poisoning, but they scan and there is none. Fitz is awkward with Yo-Yo about losing arms. ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
•10:53 - Daisy scolds Deke. He starts coughing blood. ---At least 8 minutes since they tried to help him, so absolute earliest 10:53.
•11:00 - The team wheel Deke to be operated. Piper and Mack agree to operate.
•11:00 - Hale tells off Ruby and locks her in her room
•11:00/16:00 Herefordshire - The Invincible Three move in on the base. Fitz gets an encrypted signal. They notice Ivanov. ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
•11:03 - Coulson tells Talbot about Deke and the Kree in the future while Deke is operated on.
•11:04 - May tells Coulson she loves him.
•11:04 - Strucker enters Ruby's room and convinces her to lure Hale in and escape.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 17---
•11:04/16:04 Herefordshire - The Three close in further. Ivanov calls Hale to say the chamber is ready. Fitz sets off explosions and Ivanov tells Hale he'll handle it. The Three find the chamber.
•11:05 - Hale's assistant asks her about Ivanov, and Hale says their interests align.
•11:06 - Hale enters Ruby's room. Ruby says her mother is her weakness and hugs her, then knocks her down and escapes.
•11:08 - Strucker shoots and tells Hale's men to prepare the gravitonium for transport. Ruby catches up with him and tells him they are free and clear.
•11:08 - Talbot and Daisy talk. She asks him to tell him everything he remembers.
•11:08/16:08 Herefordshire - FitzSimmons look at the technology. Yo-Yo reveals that trying to save Coulson is what led to the end. She super-speeds, but her arms malfunction.
•11:08 - Mack and Piper talk about Mack's concerns for Yo-Yo while they operate.
•11:09/16:09 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo is in pain. The soldiers are closing in. She heads out. Simmons is happy this is their honeymoon. Her gun jams and they're running low on ammunition.
•11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo finds Ivanov.
•11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Simmons asks for a reminder that time can't be changed, but then realises it's not helping.
•11:11/16:11 Herefordshire - Ivanov insists he no longer feels pain. Yo-Yo fights him and throws him through a window. ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
•11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - The robots stop working.
•11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - Who's Superior now. The robots convulse. ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
•12:26 - Deke is on drugs and spilling all his secrets. ---This is between the 11:08 scene and Ruby arriving in Herefordshire. She left around 11:11, and it's a 3810.458-mile journey. Assuming they also have Mach 2.1/1611.27mph, 3810.458 miles/1611.27mph = 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed + a few minutes to get inside, 2:30. So that's 13:41 at the earliest. Should be as early as possible because it looks like it's very soon after Yo-Yo took out Ivanov. So, halfway between 11:12 and 13:41, 12:26.5. This is 12:26-12:27.
•12:27 - Daisy arrives and lets them know that they've got a ping from Hale's robots.
•13:41/18:41 Herefordshire - After inspecting the robots following them fritzing out, Fitz decides it must have been something Yo-Yo did. Ruby and Strucker arrive and force them to fix the machine. ---13:41 as explained.
•17:00 - Talbot calls Carla. She tells him to comply. ---There are 3 scenes between 13:41 and 03:25. 10th 03:25 - 9th 13:41 = 13:44. 13:44/4 = 3:26. 13:41 + 3:26 = 17:07.
[Episode 18]
•20:33 - Talbot mutters to himself that he has to complete his mission. ---17:07 + 3:26 = 20:33.
•20:33 - Mack catches Talbot, but he gets away with it.
•23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Let her go, I need her help. I ship it. Everyone you care about will die. ---20:33 + 3:26 = 23:59.
•23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Complicated, it'll take a while. I'll remove body parts.
WEDNESDAY
•03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain. ---08:16 is sunrise time, so this is likely at least 08:25. It seems like pretty soon after Yo-Yo defeated Ivanov, but has to be at least 16 hours. She must have stumbled through the night. Early as possible though. The birds are tweeting in the English countryside, so it is indeed morning, which works.
•07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
•07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains. ---When Daisy and May arrive, it is seemingly just after Hale has left Creel's room and is going to go after Ruby, so that would be around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.
•07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
•07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall. ---Daylight in Creel's room, so at least 07:33, and ideally at least 07:45. Not later though, since it seems like minimal time has passed.
•07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
•07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
•07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead. ---Daylight, at least 07:33 Appalachian Mountains.
•07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
•07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
•08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
•08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
•08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
•08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
•10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault. ---As established above, the journey is roughly 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed, so 2:25. They would have left around 08:00, meaning this is about 10:25. ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
•10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
•10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
•10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
•10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
•10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
•10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
•10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
•10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it. ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
•10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
•10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
•10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
•10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
•10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium. ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
•10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
•15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D.. ---Ideally at least a few hours after Ruby's death. It would take 4 hours for people on her team to come from the mountains and pick her up and take her back, so that she can use the machine in the mountain base. Plus, her grief isn't quite so intense. The ship arrives at 16:35, so probably a little while before that as well. Coulson telling the team the plan at the beginning of Episode 19 is at 15:20, so that's the earliest this can be. We can assume roughly 15:00, allowing over 4 hours for Hale and 95 minutes between her telling Qovas he can attack and him actually arriving to attack.
[Episode 19]
•15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates. ---Halfway between 15:00 and 15:15 scenes.
•15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby. ---Just before May and Daisy scene, which is 15:20.
•15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine. ---If Coulson expects Daisy to have returned by 16:50, she must have left at least an hour or more beforehand. However, it is better to have it later than earlier, to allow time at the end of Episode 18 for Hale to have been picked up and got back to the Appalachian base, and the agents to have been back for a little while. So, 15:20ish, an hour-and-a-half.
•15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence. ---Halfway between 15:20 and 16:20 scenes.
•16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson. ---Presumably about 10 minutes for them to get Coulson to go and see Talbot, which is at 16:30.
•16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location. ---Seemingly just before the team realise the ship has arrived at 16:35.
•16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse. ---Not long before the 16:45 scene after this, because the marauders would not have waited particularly long to attack.
•16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
•16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
•16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy. ---Working back from 16:50, as explained later.
•16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
•16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing. ---This scene continues after the 16:50 moment after this, so this is also 16:50.
•16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders. ---Shown to be dark, but during sunset, around the later part of sunset. So, with sunset being 16:47, this would be roughly 16:50.
•16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
•16:50 - The marauders are sent.
•16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
•17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
•17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
•17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York. ---Dark outside.
•17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
•17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
•17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
•17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
•17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
•17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
•17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
•17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
•17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
•17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
•17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
•17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
•17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
•17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
•17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
•17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
[Episode 20]
•17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
•17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
•18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
•18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
•18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien. ---Five scenes between 18:05 and 19:00. 19:00 - 18:05 = 0:55. 0:55/6 = 0:9.16667. 18:05 + 0:9.16667 = 18:14.16667.
•18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him. ---18:14.16667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:23.33333.
•18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling. ---18:23.33333 + 0:9.16667 = 18:32.5.
•18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up. ---18:32.5 + 0:9.16667 = 18:41.66667.
•18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium. ---18:41.66667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:50.83333.
•19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving. ---Daisy has been trying to get through for 30 minutes, suggesting this is about half an hour after she got Jiaying's body, Assuming she probably was en route for her return by around 18:30.
•19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
•19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
•20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy. ---Got to have been at least an hour since we last saw Talbot, which was 18:50.
•20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
•20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
•20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
•20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
•20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
•20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
•20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War. ---Minimum time since Talbot arrived at the Confederacy, at least 15 minutes.
•20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
•20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
•20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
•20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
•20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
•20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
•20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
•20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
•20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
•20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
•The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.
Putting together Wednesday and Thursday, this is:
WEDNESDAY
•03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain.
•07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
•07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains.
around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.[/I]
•07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
•07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall.
•07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
•07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
•07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead.
•07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
•07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
•08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
•08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
•08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
•08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
•10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault.
•10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
•10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
•10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
•10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
•10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
•10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
•10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
•10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it.
•10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
•10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
•10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
•10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
•10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium.
•10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
•13:05-12 - The Statesman. •13:12 - "Thanos is coming." •13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony. •13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum. •"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05. •13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship. •13:42 - Bruce calls Steve. •13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor. •13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened. •14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom. •14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.
•15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D..
[Episode 19]
•15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates.
•15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby.
•15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible.
•15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine.
•15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence.
•15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere.
•16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson.
•16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location.
•16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse.
•16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
•16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
•16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility.
•16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy.
•16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
•16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing.
•16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders.
•16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
•16:50 - The marauders are sent.
•16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
•17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
•17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
•17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York.
•17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
•17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
•17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
•17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
•17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
•17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
•17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
•17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
•17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
•17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
•17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
•17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
•17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
•17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
•17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
•17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
[Episode 20]
•17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
•17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
•18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
•18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
•18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien.
•18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him.
•18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling.
•18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up.
•18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium.
•19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving.
•19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
•19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
•20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy.
•20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
•20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
•20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
•20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
•20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
•20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
•20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War.
•20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
•20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
•20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
•20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
•20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
•20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
•20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
•20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
•20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
•20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
•The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.
•23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm.
THURSDAY
•00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan. •01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.
----MIDDLE OF THE FILM----
•03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri. •04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis. •05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange. •06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker. •07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures. •08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir. •09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda. •09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down. •09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks. •09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge. •10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle. •10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives. •10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them. •10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive. •10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony. •10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives. •10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap. •10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene.
Just wanted to drop this by, I'm currently reading Heroes' Journey and there was a passage toward the end of the Thor section
"In his heart, Heimdall knew it was right. He could tell by looking at the faces of the people throughout the ship that naming a new king of Asgard would give them faith and hope and the will to carry on. That would prove vital in the days, weeks, and months to come."
This could be indication that they were on the ship for a while or it could be nothing at all, but either way it is here for your consideration.
Interesting. Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily take it at face value, but it does also lend credence to a longer span between Thor's post credit scene and rest of film.
Also, I'm collecting data for my MCU project and I was wondering if anyone here could link me to the interview in which Kevin Feige says Iron Man 3 happened six months after Avengers? I've looked everywhere, but the only one I can find has the interviewer saying it, and Feige not acknowledging the comment. But, the internet insists that Kevin Feige has said this, so I'm trying to track it down. Any help would be appreciated.
On the Spider-Man: Homecoming Blu Ray, there are two special features that could possibly be canon. Midtown News: Final Segment and Mr. Harrington: Lessons In Love. Check em out and let me know.
Spider-Man: Homecoming hit Blu-ray this past week, and while it's worth picking up since the movie is fun and rewatchable, it also contains a solid selection of special features. Among the extras is a collection of deleted and extended scenes, and you can see that co-writer/director Jon Watts had no shortage of comic bits he could have added into his movie. If anything, there was too much as certain "deleted scenes" are compilations that were never meant to fit into the film directly like "Midtown News Final Segment" and "Mr. Harrington Lessons in Love" but they make for weird little montages that might get a chuckle or two.
It's worth noting that there could be more deleted scenes than the ones that were included on the Blu-ray, but in terms of what was collected for home releases, they mostly went with amusing additions.
I've seen those; they seem a little like deleted scenes/background material dressed up as standalone bits, so they're a little different from a regular "deleted scene". There's also this pop-up video for Trish Walker's "Cray Cray" that's in-universe and seems to date from her hayday.
Interesting. Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily take it at face value, but it does also lend credence to a longer span between Thor's post credit scene and rest of film.
I honestly can't find it. I'm not sure if Feige himself ever said it, but I believe Shane Black did? I honestly can't remember, been five years.
Yeah, I thought it was definitely interesting that it was said at all. I just feel like there has to be a larger time jump between the beginning of Ragnarok and Infinity War. It just doesn't feel right, it happening back to back, and then you factor in SHIELD and it's almost impossible.
Yeah, I couldn't find him saying it either, I'll keep looking though. I appreciate the effort.
I, like you, hunted for it a while back and never found much. I think it might be one of those things where someone said several months and it got Chinese whisper-ed to "6 months" as the generally accepted fact, and without any explicit quote to back it up you get the vague "Kevin Feige said it's 6 months later" that people say online without actual sources. I've also seen people claim that it's in dialogue in one of the trailers or TV spots - but again, never a source. There's weird things that happen sometimes where these myths of things that we've supposedly been told, but it just sort of built up through someone hearing it's months after The Avengers and saying "6 months", someone watching that and then passing that on themselves, etc..
It specifically said "6 months" in the plot section on Wikipedia for years, until recently, where they've changed it to say "In 2013" which really bothers me. But again, they never had a source against the 6 months. It's a bit of a weird myth that seems to have been spread without explicit basis.
Yeah, saw that. It's a bit vague about when the scene takes place, but confirms where - it's in Nidavellir, and seemingly implies it's set at the time of Age of Ultron.
I, like you, hunted for it a while back and never found much. I think it might be one of those things where someone said several months and it got Chinese whisper-ed to "6 months" as the generally accepted fact, and without any explicit quote to back it up you get the vague "Kevin Feige said it's 6 months later" that people say online without actual sources. I've also seen people claim that it's in dialogue in one of the trailers or TV spots - but again, never a source. There's weird things that happen sometimes where these myths of things that we've supposedly been told, but it just sort of built up through someone hearing it's months after The Avengers and saying "6 months", someone watching that and then passing that on themselves, etc..
It specifically said "6 months" in the plot section on Wikipedia for years, until recently, where they've changed it to say "In 2013" which really bothers me. But again, they never had a source against the 6 months. It's a bit of a weird myth that seems to have been spread without explicit basis.
Hey man, I really appreciate the digging. I think a lot of people saw that it happened during Christmas and just assumed since it was the first movie after The Avengers it had to be THAT Christmas. Unfortunately, I'm part of that faction of people who thinks it did happen in 2013. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to get proof for both sides of the argument and this seemed to be a really big one that was floating around for the 2012 side.
And as much as I wish I could accept the junior novelization as proof, I can't bring myself to. I think recently the Spiderman Junior novel reinforces the 8 years claim and that also turned out to be false. And also I think in the Thor: The Dark World novelization, ****** survives the Dark Elves, deviating extremely from the movie's plot. So I personally can't trust those things in the slightest.