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i believe janet mentioned the void when referencing other areas of the quantum realm, i would need to see the scene again for further context but this could be alluding to how vast the quantum realm really is; is it possible that all areas of the mcu outside of space and time thus far (the nexus of all realities in what if, the tva/void/citadel in loki, the gap junction in dr strange) are all connected through the quantum realm? i'm hoping we get more explanation of what and how the tva functions in relation to the quantum realm in loki 2
 
eloesch289 said:
i believe janet mentioned the void when referencing other areas of the quantum realm, i would need to see the scene again for further context but this could be alluding to how vast the quantum realm really is; is it possible that all areas of the mcu outside of space and time thus far (the nexus of all realities in what if, the tva/void/citadel in loki, the gap junction in dr strange) are all connected through the quantum realm? i'm hoping we get more explanation of what and how the tva functions in relation to the quantum realm in loki 2
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She totally does mention the Void along with Sub-Atomica as areas of the Quantum Realm. I kinda skipped past it but that could totally be a reference to the location from Loki, it does make sense seeing as how truly vast the Quantum Realm is. It's just a theory right now but I'd say a pretty damn good one
 
Starvel said:
She totally does mention the Void along with Sub-Atomica as areas of the Quantum Realm. I kinda skipped past it but that could totally be a reference to the location from Loki, it does make sense seeing as how truly vast the Quantum Realm is. It's just a theory right now but I'd say a pretty damn good one
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If this gets confirmed later, perhaps any timestamps set in dimensions outside of time (Quantum Realm, Dark Dimension, etc) need their own category along with the TVA scenes? (a la "Outside of Time")?
 
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With the Quantum Realm itself being confirmed to be outside of space and time, the TVA being set there makes perfect sense. By the way, I loved how the movie
features visuals of the timeline that match Loki. One of the things that disappointed me a little with Multiverse of Madness was how little connection we saw between it and Loki when it came to the multiverse. This surprised me given Michael Waldron is a writer on both.
 
So, just to sum this up:

Astral (or "Higher") Plane: "Heaven", Duat, Valhalla, Noor(?), K'un L'un(?) and Ta Lo(?)
Quantum Realm: The Void, Time Variance Authority and miscellaneous briefly shown dimensions from the 1st Doctor Strange film
Mortal Plane: Earth and the physical universe/multiverse
Gap Junction: The Nexus of All-Realities, "Limbo" and everything in-between universes; tangentially connected to Quantum Realm and maybe The Citadel at the End of Time?
Dark Dimension: "Hell", Loa, Fear(?), Darkforce and Shadow Realm(?)

Any pocket dimensions like Savage Land potentially too, I guess.
 
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how long relative to janet getting rescued do we think kang arrived in the quantum realm? she didn't look too much younger but i would think around 2010 or later to give kang enough time to build his empire
 
eloesch289 said:
how long relative to janet getting rescued do we think kang arrived in the quantum realm? she didn't look too much younger but i would think around 2010 or later to give kang enough time to build his empire
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Since Darren arrived in October 2015 and Kang already had his minions at that point, I'm saying anything just under a decade before she is saved in Antman and the wasp in 2018 (to make Janet's quote about fighting him for "years" (not decades) work better (so anywhere from 2009 to 2012) which works as that's a nexus point for the creation of the multiverse via the variant Loki (nothing concrete to go on apart from guess work but yeah 2008-2012)

Also gives Kang enough time (a few years) to build his army and city by the time Darren arrives in 2015
 
I'm trying to decide what would be better to do for my personal timeline when it comes to She-Hulk and Quantumania. I used the times the days of the week were referenced to help narrow She-Hulk down some more, and currently have Episode 5 ending on July 24th, the same day Scott, Hope, Hank, Janet, and Cassie enter the Quantum Realm. I don't know if I want to place Quantumania between episodes 5 and 6 of She-Hulk. Or just place it before or after the entire season. A part of me does like following the book tour tease in Wakanda Forever with the movie featuring said book tour. I might just wait and see what Disney + does. Either way, it's nice that we're starting to get hard dates (even if Wakanda Forever's came from a deleted scene).
 
Rman said:
I'm trying to decide what would be better to do for my personal timeline when it comes to She-Hulk and Quantumania. I used the times the days of the week were referenced to help narrow She-Hulk down some more, and currently have Episode 5 ending on July 24th, the same day Scott, Hope, Hank, Janet, and Cassie enter the Quantum Realm. I don't know if I want to place Quantumania between episodes 5 and 6 of She-Hulk. Or just place it before or after the entire season. A part of me does like following the book tour tease in Wakanda Forever with the movie featuring said book tour. I might just wait and see what Disney + does. Either way, it's nice that we're starting to get hard dates (even if Wakanda Forever's came from a deleted scene).
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Idk about your personal placement, but as for watching it generally I watch the series around when the final act or finale happens when watching chronologically, so for myself I'm going Wakanda Forever, Quantumania, She-Hulk
 
Starvel said:
Idk about your personal placement, but as for watching it generally I watch the series around when the final act or finale happens when watching chronologically, so for myself I'm going Wakanda Forever, Quantumania, She-Hulk
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When I rewatch everything, I tend to go chronological. So, my timeline pretty much acts as a viewing order too. I think I'll go with your order. With AoS I would of course break movies in between tie-in episodes, but since She-Hulk and Quantumania don't reference each other, I think it'd be cleaner to not break it up.
 
I'm starting to second guess the July 24th Placement now because June makes more sense with the pride displays, but looking at the banner it Definitely is a month starting with J and only has a few letters in it so June/July works perfectly and a number but without a clearer view I'm not certain of it being 24th

So for now I'm using the concrete evidence who is June or July 2025
 
Rman said:
I'm trying to decide what would be better to do for my personal timeline when it comes to She-Hulk and Quantumania. I used the times the days of the week were referenced to help narrow She-Hulk down some more, and currently have Episode 5 ending on July 24th, the same day Scott, Hope, Hank, Janet, and Cassie enter the Quantum Realm. I don't know if I want to place Quantumania between episodes 5 and 6 of She-Hulk. Or just place it before or after the entire season. A part of me does like following the book tour tease in Wakanda Forever with the movie featuring said book tour. I might just wait and see what Disney + does. Either way, it's nice that we're starting to get hard dates (even if Wakanda Forever's came from a deleted scene).
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Could you please send me your dates for She Hulk plz trying to place NWH post credits scene and She hulk ep 1 but idk which happens first and the MCU Wiki screwed up their placement by adding a 6 month gap in between the wedding episode so yeah
 
Btw I just saw that Geekcritique is validating the 24th of July date for Quantumania so as long as it isn't just one source's evidence then I will revoke my earlier statement (July 24/25th it is for Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Main Events)
 
FruityWho50 said:
I'm starting to second guess the July 24th Placement now because June makes more sense with the pride displays, but looking at the banner it Definitely is a month starting with J and only has a few letters in it so June/July works perfectly and a number but without a clearer view I'm not certain of it being 24th

So for now I'm using the concrete evidence who is June or July 2025
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Maybe Scott didn't complete his book tour?
 
FruityWho50 said:
I'm starting to second guess the July 24th Placement now because June makes more sense with the pride displays, but looking at the banner it Definitely is a month starting with J and only has a few letters in it so June/July works perfectly and a number but without a clearer view I'm not certain of it being 24th

So for now I'm using the concrete evidence who is June or July 2025
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Given San Francisco is a very LGBTQ-friendly city, I think Pride flags in a display still work with a July placement.
FruityWho50 said:
Could you please send me your dates for She Hulk plz trying to place NWH post credits scene and She hulk ep 1 but idk which happens first and the MCU Wiki screwed up their placement by adding a 6 month gap in between the wedding episode so yeah
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Are you talking about the extended cut NWH scene at the end of the school year?

With She-Hulk, for the most part, I stick with the days of the week used by the wiki. Matching with when the show tells us a specific day of the week. I ignore their time jump though as to me it's clear that there hasn't been that significant of a jump between episodes 5-6.

  1. Episode 1- June 16th, 2025 (March 15th-22nd, 2025 for the flashbacks with Bruce).
  2. Episode 2- June 16th, 2025, June 18th, 2025, June 23rd, 2025, June 28th, 2025, June 30th, 2025.
  3. Episode 3- July 1st-3rd 2025. The wiki has this over 4 days, with the "twerking" scene being on the 4th day. Given this would be July 4th and the law office shouldn't be open, I just have it as being later on the 3rd.
  4. Episode 4- July 5th-8th 2025, July 11th-16th 2025.
  5. Episode 5- July 17th-24th 2025.
  6. Episode 6- July 25th, 2025, July 30th-31st 2025. Matching with the wedding falling on a Thursday.
  7. Episode 7- August 3rd, 2025, August 5th, 2025, August 7th-10th 2025. Matches the days of the week shown throughout the episode.
  8. Episode 8- August 13th, 2025, August 15th-16th 2025 (July 12th, 2025 flashback for the opening scene with Leapfrog) Matches the Gala at the end of the episode falling on Saturday and the Event Instigator sticky note we see in Episode 9.
  9. Episode 9- August 17th-18th 2025, August 20th-25th 2025, August 27th, 2025.
 
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Rman said:
Given San Francisco is a very LGBTQ-friendly city, I think Pride flags in a display still work with a July placement.

Are you talking about the extended cut NWH scene at the end of the school year?

With She-Hulk, for the most part, I stick with the days of the week used by the wiki. Matching with when the show tells us a specific day of the week. I ignore their time jump though as to me it's clear that there hasn't been that significant of a jump between episodes 5-6.

  1. Episode 1- June 16th, 2025 (March 15th-22nd, 2025 for the flashbacks with Bruce).
  2. Episode 2- June 16th, 2025, June 18th, 2025, June 23rd, 2025, June 28th, 2025, June 30th, 2025.
  3. Episode 3- July 1st-3rd 2025. The wiki has this over 4 days, with the "twerking" scene being on the 4th day. Given this would be July 4th and the law office shouldn't be open, I just have it as being later on the 3rd.
  4. Episode 4- July 5th-8th 2025, July 11th-16th 2025.
  5. Episode 5- July 17th-24th 2025.
  6. Episode 6- July 25th, 2025, July 30th-31st 2025. Matching with the wedding falling on a Thursday.
  7. Episode 7- August 3rd, 2025, August 5th, 2025, August 7th-10th 2025. Matches the days of the week shown throughout the episode.
  8. Episode 8- August 13th, 2025, August 15th-16th 2025 (July 12th, 2025 flashback for the opening scene with Leapfrog) Matches the Gala at the end of the episode falling on Saturday and the Event Instigator sticky note we see in Episode 9.
  9. Episode 9- August 17th-18th 2025, August 20th-25th 2025, August 27th, 2025.
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Thanks and yes NWH Grad scene on 26th June 2025
 
Just realized there's kind of plot hole in Quantumania.

In Endgame, Scott says he was only in the Quantum realm for a few hours, but 5 years had actually passed. Here, they were clearly there several hours but it appeared that no time passed on Earth. Was this explained by their entry/exit method and I missed it?
 
Craig said:
Just realized there's kind of plot hole in Quantumania.

In Endgame, Scott says he was only in the Quantum realm for a few hours, but 5 years had actually passed. Here, they were clearly there several hours but it appeared that no time passed on Earth. Was this explained by their entry/exit method and I missed it?
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In AMatW Janet seemed to be in the Quantum Realm for the same amount of time that she was out of Earth's dimension. Could be something specifically about where Scott was located, as we now know the Quantum Realm is an incredibly vast dimension and that not all locations in the Quantum Realm have time pass weirdly. But no it was never explained outside of "time works weird"
 
Rman said:
I'm trying to decide what would be better to do for my personal timeline when it comes to She-Hulk and Quantumania. I used the times the days of the week were referenced to help narrow She-Hulk down some more, and currently have Episode 5 ending on July 24th, the same day Scott, Hope, Hank, Janet, and Cassie enter the Quantum Realm. I don't know if I want to place Quantumania between episodes 5 and 6 of She-Hulk. Or just place it before or after the entire season. A part of me does like following the book tour tease in Wakanda Forever with the movie featuring said book tour. I might just wait and see what Disney + does. Either way, it's nice that we're starting to get hard dates (even if Wakanda Forever's came from a deleted scene).
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Generally I don't like to break up seasons/shows if I can help it, as the Netflix seasons really feel like they need to be watched beginning to end, but we also have AOS as a part of the timeline, so breaking it up can work in favor of chronological watching.

I run a guide for how to read Image Comics Massive-Verse and while the titles can all be read independently, save for their 'avengers style one-shot team ups', it really does feel more like a universe when you split up issues at naturally feeling breaks in their narrative. Read 3 here, then jump to this and read 6, etc.

I have only seen She-Hulk once but if it feels like 5/6 have what feels like a natural break in the narrative, why not stick AM3 in there?
 
I don't know much about
jails and whether juvenile hall would be different or not, but could the type of jail that Cassie was in be a factor in determining her age?
 
fuzzyfoot said:
I don't know much about
jails and whether juvenile hall would be different or not, but could the type of jail that Cassie was in be a factor in determining her age?
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I'm also not an expert but I believe it was jail, not juvie, and she would be 18 to be placed there.
 
eloesch289 said:
i've been collecting my thoughts on the restructuring of the quantum realm that occurred in this movie, here's what i've surmised, again this is just how i'm interpreting what we've been given so far, i've only seen quantumania once as of this writing:

- the quantum realm is comprised of several layers; the smaller you shrink the further away from your given universe you get and if you travel deep enough, past the void and sub-atomica, you reach the multiveral basement wherein kang the conqueror established axia, indicated by the numerous portals around the dome-like "geography" surrounding the city. these portals are what allow travel between multiverses; these are the source of naturally-occurring temporal energy harnessed by the future technology of nathaniel richards, also harnessed by tony stark's reverse-mobius machine for the avengers to travel between the branches of the sacred timeline before the death of he who remains (whether this void is the void seen in loki or an unrelated part of the quantum realm also called the void is yet to be seen, however i would not be surprised if they are one and the same)
- as of now, every appearance of the quantum realm has been in the top layer, the "earth-199999" portion, where scott shrank to in the first ant-man film and where janet was rescued by hank in ant-man and the wasp; this is also the location of the mcu's chronopolis as seen in the background of the latter film, whether that will come into play in the future i'm not sure; this area is where janet resorted to hiding in as her time in the quantum realm went on; this is also where scott would be able to find quantum particles for ghost in the post-credits of the latter film mentioned above. janet monitoring scott's activity and the fact that he was only supposed to be going in and coming right back tells me that she wasn't worried about kang finding him because he was still trapped in the "multiversal basement" part of the quantum realm. multiple instances of multiversal characters are able to exist simultaneously in this basement level, hence it's possible that janet met multiple other versions of janet trapped in the quantum realm ie what if ep 5
- somewhere in the quantum realm, whether inside one of the aforementioned portals or elsewhere, exist all instances of places that exist "outside of time and space" that we've seen as of yet within the mcu; these include the nexus of all realities, the gap junction, and the tva headquarters
- how any of this causes scott to only be in the quantum realm for 5 hours in endgame is unclear; that was my biggest issue with the use of the quantum realm as well, although i assume they can get away with few and far between uses of "time just works weird sometimes, there's no real explanation"
- it's still unclear whether the ten rings are directly related to kang's tech, however the fact that the bangle causes an instance of closed-loop time travel in ms. marvel and it was found inside a ten rings temple tells me the two artifacts are connected and related to a kang variant; this could also explain wenwu's elongated life-span

the biggest thing missing from the movie personally was unfortunately what i was looking forward to the most which was further exploration of the quantum realm's history and how kang has affected the universe throughout phase 4 thus far
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I haven't seen the movie, but I was about to start asking those kinds of questions:
-If the Quantum Realm is mutiversal, does it means that Jannet was there with potentialy infinite versions of herself (or at least 1, the one from what if zombies)?
-If so, what guarantee do we have that the Janet connecting to Scot in Ant Man 1 is 199999-Janet and not another Janet? Could it be that, like in the Jerrys Daycare episode from Rick and Morty, the Ant Man characters might have taken the wrong Janet from the Quantum Realm into their universe, but no one noticed because the alternate Ant Man Team took their Janet?
 
just did a double check of she-hulk's dates and I can safely say that what I have now is the closest we have to a full comprehensive chronological viewing order for phase 4 of the MCU.

Phase 4: (July 2024 - December 2025)✅

TheDailyBugle.net - Web of Lies!
TheDailyBugle.net - London Attack - Tower Bridge Bill Blues
TheDailyBugle.net - Coney Island re-opened years after devastating crash

TheDailyBugle.net - Sticky Street Job*

TheDailyBugle.net - Spider Sycophant
Venom: Let there be Carnage Post-Credits Scene
TheDailyBugle.net - Spider-Menace Tip Line

TheDailyBugle.net - Sticky Street Job*

Spider-Man: No Way Home (The More Fun Stuff Version)
Spider-Man: No Way Home Mid-Credits Scene
Morbius First Mid-Credits Scene
Morbius Second Mid-Credits Scene
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Mid-Credits Scene
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Post-Credits Scene
TheDailyBugle.net - "Savies" A New Menace Emerges
Hawkeye S01E01 - S01E03
Black Widow Post-Credits Scene
Hawkeye S01E04 - S01E06
Hawkeye S01E06 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01 Mid-Credits Scene
Moon Knight S01E01 - S01E02


Moon Knight S01E03 - S01E06 (3rd-4th May 2025)

Thor: Love and Thunder (2nd-5th May 2024 or 2025?)

Thor: Love and Thunder Post-Credits Scene (5th May 2024 or 2025?)
Thor: Love and Thunder Mid-Credits Scene (5th May 2024 or 2025?)

Moon Knight S01E06 Mid-Credits Scene (5th-10th May 2025?)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (5th-11th May 2025)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Mid-Credits Scene (10th-11th May 2025)

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01
Spider-Man: No Way Home (The More Fun Stuff Version) Post-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E02
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E02 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E03
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E03 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E04
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E04 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E05
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E06 - S01E09
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E09 Mid-Credits Scene
Ms.Marvel S01E01
Ms.Marvel S01E01 Mid-Credits Scene
Ms.Marvel S01E02 - S01E06
Ms.Marvel S01E06 Mid-Credits Scene
Werewolf by Night

Secret Invasion S01E01 - S01E06

The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special Post-Credits Scene


The stuff that has gaps between them are a WIP but im trying to date everything piece by piece and then combining them.
 
selfishmisery said:
Found a BUNCH of very credible Marvel Studios plan leaks for the next 5 years or so.

I will not post them here for obvious reasons but I just want y'all to be careful. Someone (NOT ME lol) apparently got into Feige's documents and its out there somewhere in the aether.

Don't look for them. Big honkin' spoilers.

I'll will say though, be very excited for what's coming next. At the same time, grain of salt. But from what I could tell...very legit stuff.
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Any chance you could send them to me privately or tell me where to get them? I'd love to take a look myself
 

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