Alien vs. Predator - Timeline

[Pro Bot]

https://tommywestphall.fandom.com/wiki/Outlandhttps://tommywestphall.fandom.com/wiki/Capricorn_OneApparently Outland has loose connections/references/easter eggs to some other things, including Terminator.

 

[Pro Bot]

Con-Amalgamate Timeline
1971 - T.R. Baskin
1978 - Capricorn One
1990 - Narrow Margin
2055 - A Sound of Thunder
20?? - Outland

Because of course it is.

 

[Megatron]

Con-Amalgamate Timeline
1971 - T.R. Baskin
1978 - Capricorn One
2055 - A Sound of Thunder
2??? - Outland

Because of course it is.

I think this Is too much haha.

 

[Pro Bot]

Maybe... but Peter Hyams including Con-Am in a bunch of things, to me, seems like it should be the same version of the company. Discounting any Alien connections here, of course. If you do, then only Outland is loosely connected and the rest are just tacked on.

 

[Pro Bot]

I suppose you could place Outland in the 22nd century if you assume that FTL travel is an expensive commodity not to be wasted on blue collar miners within our Solar System. There's not much of a placement for it if you do that though... best guess is 2124 with that interpretation, since Outland released 2 years after Alien.

 

[Pro Bot]

I've heard that Aliens and Alien³ recycled the computer sound effects/graphics from Outland too, but from two random threads and I don't remember where. Something to look for down the line.

I think the Con-Am thing could be dismissed as an in-joke such as with Val Verde.

 

[Megatron]

I suppose you could place Outland in the 22nd century if you assume that FTL travel is an expensive commodity not to be wasted on blue collar miners within our Solar System. There's not much of a placement for it if you do that though... best guess is 2124 with that interpretation, since Outland released 2 years after Alien.

So we go for the 2124 date? Okii I'll update my timeline as well to reflect this.

 

[Pro Bot]

I wonder if the Nostromo DLCs from Alien: Isolation could be canon. Set the first one after Brett's death but before Dallas in the airlock (I've seen people say it's an alternate timeline, but how? It fits between events as far as I can tell), then the second can fit as concurrent to Ripley's escape... then there's the other DLCs with almost no narrative which are leading up to the start of the game.

 

[Megatron]

I wonder if the Nostromo DLCs from Alien: Isolation could be canon. Set the first one after Brett's death but before Dallas in the airlock (I've seen people say it's an alternate timeline, but how? It fits between events as far as I can tell), then the second can fit as concurrent to Ripley's escape... then there's the other DLCs with almost no narrative which are leading up to the start of the game.

i tought exactly the same thing.

 

[lightsyder]

Interesting...I've not played the DLC. I always thought they were just retellings of events in the movie.

 

[Pro Bot]

Crew Expendable is based on a deleted scene. The other one is an adaptation of Ripley's escape.

 

[lightsyder]

Crew Expendable is based on a deleted scene. The other one is an adaptation of Ripley's escape.

Well shoot, guess I should've played Crew Expendable for sure...

 

[Pro Bot]

I think people throw it in the same thing because there's a scene where you're navigating a vent and getting directions to avoid Big Chap, similar to Dallas' circumstances. However, I don't really see it as the same scene personally.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

I wonder if the Nostromo DLCs from Alien: Isolation could be canon. Set the first one after Brett's death but before Dallas in the airlock (I've seen people say it's an alternate timeline, but how? It fits between events as far as I can tell), then the second can fit as concurrent to Ripley's escape... then there's the other DLCs with almost no narrative which are leading up to the start of the game.

Hmmm, a good thought.

 

[Pro Bot]

I imagine that playing as Parker in Crew Expendable is the canon version based on the deleted sequence. It justs means there's a short gap. I think it fits well.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/ShortySo... fitting in Hunter's Planet. Maybe Shorty survived War?

 

[Pro Bot]

Holy ******* ****, they talk about the Blade Runner and Soldier connections!
44:30

 

[Pro Bot]

Sounds like Hans was the writer connecting this to the main Alien timeline (33:50), Blade Runner and Soldier (44:30). Leon gets a bit confused when asked about alternate continuities then guesses that Aliens: What If...? is outside the main continuity (56:08). I wish we got to hear from Hans rather than these writers since he added the more obscure connections to Alien/Blade Runner/Soldier and the linking material to Alien³'s events (Burke sending Ripley to Fury 161, Xeno on Fury 161).

Which is funny since Paul is literally Burke.

 

[Pro Bot]

Someone described the reference to Outland from the RPG in more details. Apparently Colonial Marshals oftentimes keep prisoners in zero-g cells while wearing pressure suits... yeah okay, that's a very strong and intentional link. I see why it's in the unofficial canon tier for the RPG's system.

 

[iceman109]

The ending of Death Race 3 is unintentionally funny because the guy who became Frankenstein says he will have his revenge, then dies in the first movie

 

[iceman109]

I wonder who the Frankenstein in Beyond Anarchy actually was, because they never show his face

 

[Pro Bot]

Presumably an entirely new individual, I would think.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Kinda annoys me how Predator: Concrete Jungle is labelled an "Alternate Continuity" and "What If...?" scenario on TV Tropes, solely for not having any connections to the films. Like no **** there wouldn't be any connections, the game is meant to be a standalone story, after all. By that logic, should the Dark Horse comics be considered non-canon just because most are standalone stories? :/
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/PredatorConcreteJungle

 

[Pro Bot]

Kinda annoys me how Predator: Concrete Jungle is labelled an "Alternate Continuity" and "What If...?" scenario on TV Tropes, solely for not having any connections to the films. Like no **** there wouldn't be any connections, the game is meant to be a standalone story, after all. By that logic, should the Dark Horse comics be considered non-canon just because most are standalone stories? :/
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/PredatorConcreteJungle

It's actually connected to both the first AVP movie and the first Alien. They reference Charles Bishop Weyland and set up the MU-TH-UR A.I.

 

[lightsyder]

On down the tropes list it says the game mentions King Willie from Predator 2 as well

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

It's actually connected to both the first AVP movie and the first Alien. They reference Charles Bishop Weyland and set up the MU-TH-UR A.I.

EXACTLY!!

 

[Pro Bot]

So the game is connected to Alien, Predator 2 and AVP. Wow, such an alternate timeline clearly.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

BTW, am curious, but how do you explain the Weyland Industries/Weyland Corporation issue in the series? @Pro Bot

 

[Pro Bot]

BTW, am curious, but how do you explain the Weyland Industries/Weyland Corporation issue in the series? @Pro Bot

Charles Bishop Weyland owned Weyland Industries while Peter Weyland owned Weyland Corp. It is likely that Peter Weyland absorbed Weyland Industries' assets in 2012 when he founded Weyland Corp.

Peter likely knew of his relative's lung cancer, hence why he developed a synthetic trachea a few days before the start of AVP. Unfortunately, Charles' fixation on the antarctica expedition led to his downfall, just like it would for the younger Weyland in 2093 poetically. Both dying men sought out alien discoveries to either create a lasting legacy or extend their own life. Hm, I don't think it worked out well for Michael Bishop either.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Charles Bishop Weyland owned Weyland Industries while Peter Weyland owned Weyland Corp. It is likely that Peter Weyland absorbed Weyland Industries' assets in 2012 when he founded Weyland Corp.

Peter likely knew of his relative's lung cancer, hence why he developed a synthetic trachea a few days before the start of AVP. Unfortunately, Charles' fixation on the antarctica expedition led to his downfall, just like it would for the younger Weyland in 2093 poetically. Both dying men sought out alien discoveries to either create a lasting legacy or extend their own life. Hm, I don't think it worked out well for Michael Bishop either.