Slasherverse - Timeline

[user 16960]

George Romero and Susanna Sparrow's Dawn of the Dead (Lobdon: Sphere Books Ltd, 1979), 22, say that "the stock market had plummeted way below the lowest point of the Carter administration," and add that there is "a presidential election coming up."

Yes but the Creepshow episode takes place specifically in 1968 and that's the newest media

 

[Pro Bot]

The Escape from the Living Dead comics appear to actually just fit neatly into the timeline. All sources that I've seen claim it's an alternate sequel are wrong and just state it's set after Night of the Living Dead in 1971 by the original writer.

 

[Publius]

Yes but the Creepshow episode takes place specifically in 1968 and that's the newest media

That sets a date for "A Dead Girl Named Sue" and by extension Night of the Living Dead, but it doesn't dictate the setting of Dawn of the Dead. It doesn't follow that Dawn is set in 1969 because Night is set in 1968. Romero and Sparrow tell us that it isn't: 1969 is about as far as it's possible to get from "a presidential election coming up."

The ending of Night and the events of Russo's Return argue against the idea of a continuous escalation. The outbreak we see in 1968 was contained, and there were subsequent outbreaks, progressively worse, leading to the breakdown of civilization seen in Dawn and Day. A big-city outbreak could easily be triggered by, say, a ghoul falling overboard from a derelict ship sailed from Matool to New York Harbor.

 

[Publius]

The Escape from the Living Dead comics appear to actually just fit neatly into the timeline. All sources that I've seen claim it's an alternate sequel are wrong and just state it's set after Night of the Living Dead in 1971 by the original writer.

I haven't followed that series, but is this another Amityville II situation? Does anything in the series itself say it's an alternate sequel?

 

[zombie dude]

There's a comic were the Fantastic four go to a earth that looks like the slasher verseView attachment 4766

There are more references.

 

[BMarrow]

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What series/issue is this from?

 

[zombie dude]

What series/issue is this from?

Fantastic four fanfare issue 2

 

[user 16960]

I just want to say I really don't think that Fanta soda commercial should be considered canon to anything. It was obviously just an ad for fun, it wasn't trying to say FNAF was the same universe as Chucky.

For one the Freddy animatronic shouldn't be possessed by 2025 and I really doubt Scott intended for the films to be part of some big horror universe

 

[LegionAOD]

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Loving the legally distinct Lament Configuration and Cenobites!

 

[stphylcccs]

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Universal Monsters mentioned

 

[stphylcccs]

I just want to say I really don't think that Fanta soda commercial should be considered canon to anything. It was obviously just an ad for fun, it wasn't trying to say FNAF was the same universe as Chucky.

For one the Freddy animatronic shouldn't be possessed by 2025 and I really doubt Scott intended for the films to be part of some big horror universe

Is this referring to that one Letterboxd Slasherverse? That one's a loooooot more loose in terms of connections

 

[Pro Bot]

I just feel weird about DieNamite because it's very explicitly meant to be its own thing separate from all previous continuity but sure I guess.

Also that recent Red Sonja crossover confuses things further because Tim Seeley said it was an AOD Forever sequel but it doesn't work with the canon of the rest of the franchise because (Red Sonja doesn't recognize Ash for one) it ends with Ash and Sheila going to the present, and Red Sonja stayed behind to lead the world into a Utopia where nothing bad is around in the present day.

Death to the Army of Darkness! has a mobile phone in it, so I guess, despite Ash apparently working at that S-Mart store for 5 years (since 2015!?), it's set in 2020. Maybe it was rounding up and he was taking extended holidays during Ash vs Evil Dead S2-3, I don't know. It's dumb, especially since he gets fired from S-Mart in Ash vs the Army of Darkness (set in 2017) after events that seem to reflect AoD's theatrical ending. He's also running a hardware store at the same time during S3.

Anyway, that comic ends with them going into another timeline/dimension of some sort, one filled with Deadites. Perhaps that is what led to Ash entering the Die!Namite world. I don't know, this crap is messy.

Maybe his boss was wrong and exaggerated how long he was there for. Ash did guess he was there for 2-3 years, which fits better.

 

[Pro Bot]

Dynamite Ash Timeline Interpretation
I'm still going through it, but hang on. This is how I'm explaining why Ash remembers multiple continuations of Army of Darkness at the same time.

Army of Darkness: Forever led into the theatrical cut ending after Ash went through the vortex. After this, Ashes 2 Ashes occurs... then, somehow, 23 years pass before we get to Shop Till You Drop Dead. Blah blah blah, 818793 stories play out until The Long Road Home storyline. Ash rewrites the timeline so everything after Army of Darkness didn't happen, and in 2008 he forgets his Chosen One destiny.

This allows the reboot, Ash and the Army of Darkness, to occur. Because it disrupts the continuity of Dynamite's original story, I like to think that when Ash arrives in the past seven months after Army of Darkness, this actually creates an alternate timeline going from there to Ash in Space!.

Somehow, Ash eventually returns to his original timeline off-screen in 1982, where he gets arrested and Evil Dead: Regeneration plays out. This game actually doesn't suggest that Army of Darkness never happened. The first level is just an inaccurate flashback to Evil Dead 2. Can't find a single source that it ignores Army of Darkness or Evil Dead 2's ending. The logical conclusion to me is that Ash got arrested after the S-Mart Deadite attack.

The Army of Darkness vs Re-Animator: Necronomicon Rising crossover actually explains Herbert West discrepancies. The original crossover was in a timeline where the Re-Animator films never happened, hence why the lore doesn't match. After The Long Road Home, post-1982 events, perhaps even post-1300 events, were completely altered. This crossover shows Ash meeting the West from the live-action films and explains why Herbert recognises Ash despite the timeline change when they meet again in Prophecy.

Evil Dead: Hail to the King and Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick happen afterwards, nothing much of note. A few stories in an anthology comic and a Darkman crossover happen before catching up with the main Dynamite storyline in 2008. Ash in 2008 doesn't remember events from 1982-2008 from either the previous timeline or the newly rewritten one due to making himself forget his Chosen One destiny... but then he remembers at the end of the story and I suppose his memories get amalgamated together.

The rest of the comics are mostly straightforward, though the second Xena crossover jumps forward 50 years in the future to a 109 year old Ash that isn't just alive but barely struggling. Uh... magic? Anyway, he goes back to 2016 and gains back his youth, so technically Ash vs Evil Dead Season 3 features an Ash Williams that is 50 years older than he was in Season 2. Was this intended? NO! I threw in Ash becoming president in this timeline, too. A bit nonsensical since he's supposed to be waiting for Xena but hey, it needed to go somewhere and he's obviously not the president in the main reality.

Ash vs the Army of Darkness is clearly trying to be another reboot where the trilogy happened in 2017 but honestly, if you just assume Ash killed another Deadite in S-Mart in present day after apparently returning from 2093 post-Season 3, it doesn't cause too many problems. Death to the Army of Darkness! also fits present day fine if Ash actually did work at that S-Mart for 2-3 years, and that leads into him going to the Die!Namite Universe, which leads into the 1979 comic which validates everything being connected. I haven't properly got through Red Sonja vs the Army of Darkness, but I have a feeling the start of the comic could be part of the main timeline before Ash creates a new one trying to save Shelia. Archie x the Army of Darkness is inconsequential so that's fine...

The Evil Dead 2 comics concern Annie Knowby and a clone of Ash created from his severed hand. I would personally guess that the reason Ash's hand doesn't have a consistent history is due to Time Vortexes, Hell, or, uh... just plain magic. I'm not too concerned with that lining up. Other than the prequel issues with Raymond Knowby having modern technology, you can pretty much just assume that Annie and Ash (clone) left Hell in 2015 and there's no anachronisms.

 

[Publius]

Somehow, Ash eventually returns to his original timeline off-screen in 1982, where he gets arrested and Evil Dead: Regeneration plays out. This game actually doesn't suggest that Army of Darkness never happened. The first level is just an inaccurate flashback to Evil Dead 2. Can't find a single source that it ignores Army of Darkness or Evil Dead 2's ending. The logical conclusion to me is that Ash got arrested after the S-Mart Deadite attack.

I know this outline is specific to these comics, but I feel it's worth noting that "Hell at S-MART" confirms that Ash was arrested and ultimately cleared after shooting the Deadite woman at the end of Army of Darkness.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Night of the Living Dead Franchise
George A. Romero Timeline
1962 - The Rise #1
1962 - The Rise #2
1965 - The Rise #3
1968 - Night of the Living Dead (1968)
1968 - Creepshow 3x06, "Drug Traffic/A Dead Girl Named Sue" [2nd Story]
1968 - Diary of the Dead
1968 - Survival of the Dead
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #1, "The Death of Death, Part One"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #2, "The Death of Death, Part Two"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #3, "The Death of Death, Part Three"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #4, "The Death of Death, Part Four"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #5, "The Death of Death, Part Five"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #6, "The Death of Death, Conclusion"
1969 - Dawn of the Dead (1978)
1969 - Day of the Dead (1985)
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #2
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #3
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #4
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #5
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Fearbook #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #2
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #3
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead Annual
1973 - Land of the Dead
1973 - Empire of the Dead #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead #5
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #5
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #5
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #1
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #2
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #3
1983 - The Living Dead

John A. Russo Timeline
1984 - The Return of the Living Dead
1985 - Return of the Living Dead
1988 - Return of the Living Dead Part II
1993 - Return of the Living Dead 3
2004 - Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis
2005 - Return of the Living Dead: Rave to the Grave
Note: Night of the Living Dead (1968) is referred to an in-universe film based on real events.

Night of the Living Dead (1990) Timeline
1989 - Night of the Living Dead (1990)

Dawn of the Dead (2004) Timeline
2004 - Dawn of the Dead (2004)
2004 - Special Report: Zombie Invasion!
2004 - The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed

Day of the Dead (2008) Timeline
2008 - Day of the Dead (2008)

Aren't you forgetting Land of the Dead: Road to Fiddler's Green as well, since it's a video game prequel to Land of the Dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Dead:_Road_to_Fiddler's_Green

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Night of the Living Dead Franchise
George A. Romero Timeline
1962 - The Rise #1
1962 - The Rise #2
1965 - The Rise #3
1968 - Night of the Living Dead (1968)
1968 - Creepshow 3x06, "Drug Traffic/A Dead Girl Named Sue" [2nd Story]
1968 - Diary of the Dead
1968 - Survival of the Dead
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #1, "The Death of Death, Part One"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #2, "The Death of Death, Part Two"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #3, "The Death of Death, Part Three"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #4, "The Death of Death, Part Four"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #5, "The Death of Death, Part Five"
1969 - Toe Tags Featuring George Romero #6, "The Death of Death, Conclusion"
1969 - Dawn of the Dead (1978)
1969 - Day of the Dead (1985)
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #2
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #3
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #4
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead #5
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Fearbook #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #1
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #2
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne #3
1971 - Escape of the Living Dead Annual
1973 - Land of the Dead
1973 - Empire of the Dead #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead #5
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Two #5
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #1
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #2
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #3
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #4
1973 - Empire of the Dead: Act Three #5
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #1
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #2
1979 - Road of the Dead: Highway to Hell #3
1983 - The Living Dead

John A. Russo Timeline
1984 - The Return of the Living Dead
1985 - Return of the Living Dead
1988 - Return of the Living Dead Part II
1993 - Return of the Living Dead 3
2004 - Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis
2005 - Return of the Living Dead: Rave to the Grave
Note: Night of the Living Dead (1968) is referred to an in-universe film based on real events.

Night of the Living Dead (1990) Timeline
1989 - Night of the Living Dead (1990)

Dawn of the Dead (2004) Timeline
2004 - Dawn of the Dead (2004)
2004 - Special Report: Zombie Invasion!
2004 - The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed

Day of the Dead (2008) Timeline
2008 - Day of the Dead (2008)

Also, what about the Timeline where the Night of the Living Dead: 30th Anniversary Edition leads into Children of the Dead or some sh*t like that?

 

[Pro Bot]

Aren't you forgetting Land of the Dead: Road to Fiddler's Green as well, since it's a video game prequel to Land of the Dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Dead:_Road_to_Fiddler's_Green

I don't know the exact placement.

Also, what about the Timeline where the Night of the Living Dead: 30th Anniversary Edition leads into Children of the Dead or some sh*t like that?

Unofficial but that's correct, it does.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

I don't know the exact placement.

Definitely some point during the early days of the Zombie Virus spreading, but no doubt before the actual movie itself.

 

[Pro Bot]

No, Jason Voorhees has been some species of revenant since his death on June 13, 1957. Simon Hawk, Friday the 13th Part II: A Novel (Signet Books, 1988), explicitly confirms that he drowned in Crystal Lake and was revived. As the novelization is not widely available, I'll post a lengthy passage discussing this. Note that Hawke consistently spells the name Voorhees as "Vorhees" in all three of his novelizations; I assume this reflects a family preference that was never formally reflected in government records. In the following passage, I've marked page numbers in square brackets:


Note that this means that Jason, not Pamela, was responsible for at least some of the fires mentioned at Camp Crystal Lake in Friday the 13th. (She may have started some fires herself, of course.)

We know that Pamela Voorhees tried to reanimate her son with a copy of the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis, but she clearly did not know he had returned as a revenant; as far as she knew, the ritual had failed. It probably did, because as we see in Hawke, Jason Voorhees was already abhuman before his death, and had already revived. His perspective in Hawke's novelizations has none of the Deadites' characteristic plural self-reference, and he is clearly sensible of pain during his 1984 murder spree. I think the Necronomicon ritual marked him in some way, but did not actually effect his reanimation; his own 'healing factor' did that, but his encounter with Tommy Jarvis left him too damaged to reanimate on his own. The lightning strike combined his own abhuman nature with the Kandarian 'marker.' explaining why he still does not act like a typical Deadite.

As an aside, this makes him very much like the twice-cursed Michael Myers, obsessed by both the spirit of primitive Celtic murderer Enda (Halloween: The Novel) and by the Mark of Thorn (Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers). Freddy Krueger also has some claim to at least two separate sources of his power, as guardian of the Nightmare Gate (A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Master) and as demoniac of the Dream Demons (Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare).

Edit: This does also mean that Chris Higgins probably did kill Jason Voorhees in 1984 -- twice. She's just less thorough at killing than Tommy Jarvis, who put in the effort to ensure that Voorhees was all dead rather than mostly dead.

I do like the idea of Jason having multiple curses (or power sources). I believe one of the comics and Sweet Revenge support the idea that Jason is a revenant.

Also, I won't lie, that Scream 7 Jason trivia question answer pissed me off. "Jason never drowned," yeah right.

 

[Pro Bot]

I always considered Thorn Michael to be enhanced by the curse but not controlled by it. The sequel comics show that he killed beyond just on Halloween, so I think there's already the existence of pure evil inside of him. Plus, if the cult really controlled him, he wouldn't have massacred them all.

I think the curse had an influence on him and made him suggestive to it (hence the whole Halloween murders), but I don't think Myers is just some slave. I think the sadistic element of him comes from somewhere else. Positioning the bodies like some twisted artwork, stealing his sister's gravestone, hiding in the shadows instead of acting like a kill robot?

 

[Pro Bot]

I never once really thought of Jason as a true Deadite anyway. It doesn't make sense. I can believe that an element of his existence was tied to the Necronomicon, sure.

 

[Publius]

I always considered Thorn Michael to be enhanced by the curse but not controlled by it. The sequel comics show that he killed beyond just on Halloween, so I think there's already the existence of pure evil inside of him. Plus, if the cult really controlled him, he wouldn't have massacred them all.

I think the curse had an influence on him and made him suggestive to it (hence the whole Halloween murders), but I don't think Myers is just some slave. I think the sadistic element of him comes from somewhere else. Positioning the bodies like some twisted artwork, stealing his sister's gravestone, hiding in the shadows instead of acting like a kill robot?

We know he appeared to be a normal child until he started having what were thought to be auditory hallucinations (brought on by the curse of Enda). We also know that Dr. Loomis recognized that he was a psychopath capable of feigning normalcy. I think the Cult of Thorn fundamentally misunderstood what they were dealing with; they thought they had a man cursed by Thorn under their control. That wasn't what they had, and he wasn't really under control.

The funny thing is that Dr. Wynn had every opportunity to learn the truth. He clearly never took Dr. Loomis seriously about just how dangerous Michael really is. If they listened to Loomis, they would have known Michael can wait for years until the perfect opportunity presents itself. Loomis is the only person to recognize that Michael is dangerous because he is evil, even without a curse, let alone two.

 

[user 16960]

Judith's grave was gonna be revealed to be a portal to Hell in the scrapped 7th film iirc

 

[Publius]

I never once really thought of Jason as a true Deadite anyway. It doesn't make sense. I can believe that an element of his existence was tied to the Necronomicon, sure.

Normal (!) Deadites aren't semi-indestructible the way Jason is after the lightning strike. They are basically immune to trauma, but their bodies still sustain injury and they are immobilized or dismembered more or less the same way as mortal humans.

Jason basically no-sells everything when he's in his own body. I assume this is because his body still heals itself even as it's rotting. (This is similar to Deadpool, whose 'healing factor' interacts with his metastatic cancer in unfortunate ways.)

I know Adam Marcus has said Jason is a Deadite, but I think we have to assume that in this context "Deadite" means "something effected by the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis," not "the specific kind of undead demoniac commonly fought by Ash Williams." We do know that not everything that comes through that book is the same species, as Eligos and Ruby's 'babies' are definitely not the common-type of Deadite.

Maybe Pamela's ritual is what conjured Jason's 'Hellbaby' aspect into existence. Maybe it made his 'zombie' form an option under the right circumstances, in addition to his own preexisting abhuman nature.

 

[Pro Bot]

I know this outline is specific to these comics, but I feel it's worth noting that "Hell at S-MART" confirms that Ash was arrested and ultimately cleared after shooting the Deadite woman at the end of Army of Darkness.

Well then, I guess it's got a good placement after Evil Dead: Regeneration then. See??? You can force all Evil Dead licensed content into one world!!

(Well, uh, apart from needing to assume alternate timelines are created every now and then...)

 

[Pro Bot]

Army of Darkness: Ash Saves Obama has Barack Obama as president. Freddy vs Jason vs Ash: The Nightmare Warriors has a random guy as president. So... I'm gonna say that Obama got injured and the old guy is Vice President Joe Biden stepping in. That's, uh... not a political statement by the way. I don't think real life Joe Biden would want to use the Necronomicon. I just genuinely don't know how else to deal with it. Seems reasonable enough.

 

[user 16960]

Army of Darkness: Ash Saves Obama has Barack Obama as president. Freddy vs Jason vs Ash: The Nightmare Warriors has a random guy as president. So... I'm gonna say that Obama got injured and the old guy is Vice President Joe Biden stepping in. That's, uh... not a political statement by the way. I don't think real life Joe Biden would want to use the Necronomicon. I just genuinely don't know how else to deal with it. Seems reasonable enough.

They mentioned Obama in Nightmare Warriors iirc, it's part of the plot I think that he isn't in the building at the time or something iirc

 

[Pro Bot]

Do they? I just reread it today and don't recall an Obama mention.

 

[Pro Bot]

Maybe I did but skimmed over it because I didn't register it's importance. I don't know.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Definitely some point during the early days of the Zombie Virus spreading, but no doubt before the actual movie itself.

@Pro Bot you gonna add it in?

Wait, NVM, you already did. Ignore my derp moment.