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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus was a combat model Nexus-8 replicant. Iggy was stationed on Calantha, but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that, to humans, this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox." He then deserted and escaped to Earth.[1] On Earth, he...
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Cygnus (model)

Cygnus was a model of combat synthetic primarily utilized in the 22nd century before its entire generation had been decommissioned and sold for scrap. One such model synthetic had been salvaged by Carter Burke on a waste-disposal planet named Arcadia 234. Aliens: What If...
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You don't think the Cygnus replicant in Aliens: What If...? might be this guy? They're both black, they're both designed for combat, they're both replicants... yeah, that's my evidence, but still lol. (The 22nd century part is not mentioned)

I honestly think it might be. The only problem is that there's 157 years between 2022 and 2179. Unless there's something in the atmosphere of Arcadia 234 or DNA of combat replicants that prevents decomposing, I'm not sure. In any case, I'm confident this was a reference. How many people do you know called Cygnus? And there's multiple Blade Runner references already... yeah, nah. It's got to be.
 
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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus was a combat model Nexus-8 replicant. Iggy was stationed on Calantha, but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that, to humans, this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox." He then deserted and escaped to Earth.[1] On Earth, he...
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Cygnus (model)

Cygnus was a model of combat synthetic primarily utilized in the 22nd century before its entire generation had been decommissioned and sold for scrap. One such model synthetic had been salvaged by Carter Burke on a waste-disposal planet named Arcadia 234. Aliens: What If...
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You don't think the Cygnus replicant in Aliens: What If...? might be this guy? They're both black, they're both designed for combat, they're both replicants... yeah, that's my evidence, but still lol. (The 22nd century part is not mentioned)

I honestly think it might be. The only problem is that there's 157 years between 2022 and 2179. Unless there's something in the atmosphere of Arcadia 234 or DNA of combat replicants that prevents decomposing, I'm not sure. In any case, I'm confident this was a reference. How many people do you know called Cygnus? And there's multiple Blade Runner references already... yeah, nah. It's got to be.
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I think it might be a shout out more then anything, considering how Cygnus refers to a line of synthetics instead of one person
 
There's no reference to any other Cygnus model existing, so technically, based on the dialogue, he's a combat model replicant. That's all we're given.

The wiki isn't technically wrong for doing that though. They're an AVP wiki, not a Blade Runner wiki. They should have the reading of him being an android.
 
Do you think Wallace Corp ever bought out Tyrell Corp in AVP? Or do you think it's still Tyrell
 

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AJ: Which part of the book was most fun to write?

OW: Something that hadn't really occurred to me when I took the job on was that I'd have to essentially write it in character. The idea is that it's a handbook for marines in the field, so I had to write it as if I was some sort of corporate suit at Weyland-Yutani. That ended up being quite fun, because it's this weird line between writing a companion to the films and actually writing in-universe fiction.

And I tried to sneak a lot of jokes in, which might not be immediately apparent. I was afraid that the "voice", by its nature, would be boring, so I tried to play around with some references and in-jokes that fans would enjoy if they got them. There's a crack about "inexplicable lapses in safety protocols" in Prometheus that I know people have picked up on. And as I said, we weren't allowed to use the AvP movies or the comics or novels, so I had some fun making veiled references to those here and there; or references to discrepancies between different cuts of the different films, or between the films and the novelisations. Any time I mention something like "uncorroborated evidence" or dodgy intelligence, or stories that are probably apocryphal, I'm basically talking about something outside what's officially canonical. I even slipped a reference to Death Race in (Paul WS Anderson used Weyland as his evil company in that as well as in his Alien Vs Predator).
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Death Race was mentioned in an actual novel... welp, that's fucked. I don't want to add freaking Death Race.
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Alien: Augmented Reality Survival Manual

Alien: Augmented Reality Survival Manual is a 2017 fictional combat guide detailing methods and tactics for engaging the Xenomorph, written by Owen Williams and published by Harper Design. An augmented reality book, it consists of a traditional hardback volume along with a companion app that...
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I suppose it's possible that Weyland is the CEO and owner of the subsidiary company to Weyland Corp, "Weyland International".
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Someone's comment on it:
"The WY blurb also mentions that WY engages in prison-based racing circuits - I certainly wasn't expecting to see a reference to Paul WS Anderson's 'Death Race' in this book."

This just seems like fanfic crap, wtf? It's fun though. I guess it adds an unofficial canonicity point towards Death Race.
 
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Dutch Schaefer

Major Dutch Schaefer was a human cyborg officer in the United States Colonial Marine Corps. He was involved in combating a Xenomorph infestation in San Drad, California. A cyborg created to fight extra-terrestrials. He lost his arm in the 2nd Alien War and has since had it replaced with a...
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Since Dutch is now immortal per Hunting Ground tapes (or at least, extremely long-lived), it's possible this is the same character from the original Predator film, apparently enhanced by CDS cybernetics... yes, Arnold's character is a cyborg developed by CDS (Cyberdyne Systems)... moving on.
 
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Dutch Schaefer

Major Dutch Schaefer was a human cyborg officer in the United States Colonial Marine Corps. He was involved in combating a Xenomorph infestation in San Drad, California. A cyborg created to fight extra-terrestrials. He lost his arm in the 2nd Alien War and has since had it replaced with a...
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Since Dutch is now immortal per Hunting Ground tapes (or at least, extremely long-lived), it's possible this is the same character from the original Predator film, apparently enhanced by CDS cybernetics... yes, Arnold's character is a cyborg developed by CDS (Cyberdyne Systems)... moving on.
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A timeline of just Dutch's adventures could be interesting. He was in a short story in one of the Predator anthologies as well as is implied to be in the novel South China Sea. He's not named but I think the author may have said that it was his intent. The novel that goes with the game also has lots of Dutch info that inter mixes with the Hunting Grounds tapes as well. I think I have a broken down timeline of that book in my notes some where.
 
Poor John Schaefer is totally unaware his brother might be alive in Marvel's The Last Hunt comic. Dutch could have let him know he was safe over the years. :(
 

Alien script by Dan O'Bannon & Ronald Shusett

Alien script by Dan O'Bannon & Ronald Shusett
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The Original Screenplay is probably set in 2087 (or at least, after that date)... I'm not sure that works with Dallas serving on the USCSS Snark from 2100 to 2103 according to Aliens. Then again, the ship in The Original Screenplay is the USSCS Snark, not the USCSS Snark. They might be different ships.
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USSCS Snark

The USSCS Snark, registration number E180246, was a deep space commercial cargo spaceship, captained by Chaz Standard. During a voyage back to Earth, the commercial vessel USSCS Snark's computer awakens its crew of six - Captain Chaz Standard, First Officer Martine Roby, Navigator Dell...
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Plus, of course, the nature of the Aliens: The Original Screenplay comic adaptation means that it could simply be a separate reality.

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How awesome would a Schaefer brothers reunion in comic form be?
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Dutch almost never shows up in anything, so I'd love it if we finally got a conclusion to the decades old John Schaefer storyline with him finally finding out what Dutch has been up to since he disappeared.
 
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Dutch almost never shows up in anything, so I'd love it if we finally got a conclusion to the decades old John Schaefer storyline with him finally finding out what Dutch has been up to since he disappeared.
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Yeah, it'd be nice to get some closure on that one. May also blow up the timeline too with all Dutch's adventures tied to Hunting Grounds and John's comic book storylines. Still needs to happen though.
 
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Wolverine

Wolverine, born James Howlett and more commonly known by his alias Logan, was a human mutant who fought against the Yautja. In 1900, Logan was living in the Alaskan Territory. During that time, he hunted beavers and sold their furs at Scar in the Athabascan country. At the outpost, Logan was...
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I don't agree with it, but the wiki considers Aliens vs. Avengers' Wolverine to be the same from the Predator versus series. Well... I might consider it, it depends on if characters die in Predator Kills the Marvel Universe that are alive in Aliens vs. Avengers. It'd be interesting what they do if the Marvel Predator and Marvel Alien crossovers contradict one another. Imagine they had to create a Wolverine character hub for the AVP, PKtMU and AVA versions, lol.
 
Here's some info I pulled from the Predator anthology books.

Predator: If It Bleeds
  • Devil Dogs - colonial Marine era, section seven serving the company's thirteen, rage war prequel
  • Stonewall's last stand - may 2 1863, VA,
  • Rematch - 9 years after turnabout (2009) so 2018
  • May blood pave my way home - 1916 Central America
  • Storm blood - 8/29/2005 - 8/30/2005 new Orleans, during Katrina (8/28/2005 for recording)
  • Last report from the kss psychopomp - no clue, far future?
  • Skeld's keep - 820
  • Indigenous species - hardscrabble colony planet
  • Blood and sand - last bridge township Montana 1933
  • Tin warrior - area 57 blackout base, post Iraq and Afghanistan, hanger fourteen
  • Three sparks - captain nasu hiroto, Dan-no-ura, minamoto clan, minamoto yoritomo, inspired ninja (1190s)
  • The pilot - SR-71 blackbird over Russia, Chinese JZ-8, Atari, communists, 1962-1979, SR-71 in use 1964-1998
  • Buffalo Jump - coyote creek Oregon, a boy during civil war, Novak's GM married in 1849
  • Drug War - 25 years after P2 (2022), garber selling guns...then he dies...
  • Recon - January 1968, Vietnam, Nk'mecci's previous hunt - WW 1 or 2?
  • Gameworld - first alien contact? At least widely known. Colony time
Predator: Eyes of the Demon
  • The Titans - marines in space, beck's team for 4 years, then over 3 decades in hypersleep, then 16 as librarian, 50 years after station battle beck survived,
  • The distance in their eyes - whatever
  • Aftermath - 9/1987, Keyes and Garber interrogate Dutch, Dutch's team together for 7 years, Dutch recorded a tape, fights a young blood in NC
  • Proving Ground - now?
  • Lion of the Himalayas - Kashmir vs India
  • The fix is in - sequel to Gameworld
  • Bitter Hunt -
  • Field Trip - 2020s, October
  • Cannon fodder - 2422, planet given to the hunters? Hundreds of years ago
  • Little miss nightmare - 2022, does this mention the genetic guys getting wiped out?
  • The trophy - dropholes are a thing?
  • The monster - October, Roger Patterson and Bob gimlin
  • Ghost story - august 1971 then decades later, ship revealed maybe 5 years earlier, buried 50ish years
  • Sly dark in the daylight - val is 70, was a nurse in Vietnam, September,
  • Dead man's switch - predators known
And Predator: Stalking Shadows overlaps with the Dutch and Agent Keyes recordings from Hunting Grounds.
Stalking Shadows
  • prologue - 1997 prior to P2 ship take off and Dutch tape
  • ch 1 - 1997 - aftermath, prior to keyes Dutch tape then next day
  • ch 2 - 1998 - 9 months after P2, stargazer forming?, Find aftermath of predator cartel kill
  • ch 3 - 2000, new years Eve,
  • ch 4 - 2000, Dutch vs shark skin predator, Scott four months after nye, Scott sees Dutch, then promoted, where was Dutch - Malaysia
  • ch 5 - 2002, edging towards October
  • ch 6 - 2004, Scotland, Dutch, Scott, stargazer?, Weeks from 2 years for Marcus
  • ch 7 - 2005, Mexico, Dutch and Scott
  • ch 8 - 2006, almost nine months after Mexico, Dutch briefs Scott
  • ch 9 - 2007, over 18 months since debrief, training done 9 months ago, first op with Dutch in New Mexico, first dogs sighting, Flynn kia, Ellison from Scotland,
  • ch 10 - 2010, 3.5 years later, Dutch's team is Havana, then 2/2011 Dutch returns, female pred fight was a few months after NM, Dutch recruited new team in last 18 months, SC, assassination attempt on Dutch
  • ch 11 - 2013, Venezuela, Ellison kia, Marcus and Lau kia, Scott injured
  • ch 12 - 2013, Marcus's funeral, 2 weeks after Venezuela, Adam Garber?
  • epilogue - 10 years later, stargazer started in 2016, stargazer dismantled in 2018 and owlf reinstated, Scott married 5 years ago
Some of these notes are probably a bit vague but if you need more to look anything up just let me know.
 
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