Arrowverse / DC-CW Timeline (v 3.0)

Avilos said:
Ok I do not know where you got that original interpretation but this is a huge part of the problem of online news PLUS fan reactions to it. Stuff is taken completely out of context or just wrong. Fans rush to share before confirmation. I appreciate that you quickly corrected what he really said. But often people will see original post and never see correction and will always believe it.

For the record I am a Arrowverse fan more than a James Gunn fan. But very excited about the possibilities for what he is doing. I think Arrowverse fans would agree with what he really said. Which was not even specifically about the Arrowverse itself but DC tv of past. That rights were handed out very casually. It's amazing a lot of it was good. Part of what he was talking about were Probably oddball things developed and never made. Which tied up rights for years.
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@Avilos But yeah I agree with everything you said.

DC, I'd say ever since after Man of Steel or around Flash S2, has fallen prey to far too many cooks in the kitchen. Between 2013-2015 until now has been a period of unfulfilled promises, executive meddling and legitimately bad planning.
 
JudgeDreddpool said:
Without spoilers, what other shows/movies/stuff are connected to the Arrowverse via the Multiverse?
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(You just reminded me that I have to make adjustments to this thread. Will get to that soon.)

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Arrowverse

The Arrowverse is the fan-originated name for the shared continuity that began with the TV series Arrow. Originally set on "Earth-1", the Arrowverse was expanded into an infinite multiverse— within the Divine Continuum— that houses the settings of most of the live-action and animated adaptations...
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JudgeDreddpool said:
Without spoilers, what other shows/movies/stuff are connected to the Arrowverse via the Multiverse?
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Here's the list:
  1. Powerless
  2. Naomi
  3. Superman & Lois
  4. Gotham Knights
  5. Lucifer
  6. Smallville
  7. Birds of Prey (2002)
  8. DC Extended Universe
  9. DC Universe
  10. Titans
  11. Doom Patrol
  12. Swamp Thing (2019)
  13. Stargirl
  14. Sandman / Dead Boy Detectives
  15. Donnerverse
  16. Superman Returns
  17. Burtonverse (Batman (1989), Batman Returns)
  18. Schumacherverse (Batman Forever, Batman & Robin)
  19. The Flash (1990)
  20. Green Lantern (2011)
  21. The Adventures of Superman (1952)
  22. Batman (1966)
  23. Wonder Woman (1975)
  24. Pennyworth / Gotham
  25. Krypton
  26. The Batman Crime Saga
  27. Joker
  28. Harley Quinn (2019) cartoon
  29. Watchmen (2019)
I think that's it?
Obviously some Vertigo stuff like iZombie or Sweet Tooth can't be mentioned due to creator-owned rights issues, and The Dark Knight Trilogy is off-limits to the multiverse because of Nolan. Stuff that WB has no hands in like Preacher / The Boys or Y: The Last Man can't ever be acknowledged.
 
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selfishmisery said:
Here's the list:

  1. Powerless
  2. Naomi
  3. Superman & Lois
  4. Gotham Knights
  5. Lucifer
  6. Smallville
  7. Birds of Prey (2002)
  8. DC Extend Universe
  9. DC Universe
  10. Titans
  11. Doom Patrol
  12. Swamp Thing (2019)
  13. Stargirl
  14. Sandman / Dead Boy Detectives
  15. Donnerverse
  16. Superman Returns
  17. Burtonverse (Batman (1989), Batman Returns)
  18. Schumacherverse (Batman Forever, Batman & Robin)
  19. The Flash (1990)
  20. The Adventures of Superman (1952)
  21. Batman (1966)
  22. Wonder Woman (1975)
  23. Pennyworth / Gotham
  24. Krypton
  25. The Batman Crime Saga
  26. Joker
  27. Harley Quinn (2019) cartoon
  28. Watchmen (2019)
I think that's it?
Obviously some Vertigo stuff like iZombie or Sweet Tooth can't be mentioned due to rights issues, and The Dark Knight Trilogy is off-limits to the multiverse because of Nolan. Stuff that WB has no hands in like Preacher / The Boys or Y: The Last Man can't ever be acknowledged.
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This list is based on onscreen Multiverse connections and producer input (which is the case for Krypton, Gotham, Gotham Knights, Sandman, Powerless, Naomi, The Batman and Watchmen). I didn't pull any of this out of thin air.
 
selfishmisery said:
This list is based on onscreen Multiverse connections and producer input (which is the case for Krypton, Gotham, Gotham Knights, Sandman, Powerless, Naomi, The Batman and Watchmen). I didn't pull any of this out of thin air.
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Noted. Is there an IRL chronological order of when these connections/input occur (mainly so I know when to watch them on my Viewing Order)?
 
JudgeDreddpool said:
Noted. Is there an IRL chronological order of when these connections/input occur (mainly so I know when to watch them on my Viewing Order)?
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Well, there's 3 "stages" of DC's Live-action Multiverse for starters:
1.) The 1st "stage" - Smallville (Earth-167) basically sets the stage for the Multiverse concept in season 10 and the Season 11 comics, although it never brings up other live-action continuities and it basically wipes out a bunch of nothing-Earths of the higher echelon to a smaller number by the time the Arrowverse begins - until Crisis on Infinite Earths.

2.) The 2nd "stage" is Post-Crisis. More on that when I have the time to explain what order, chicken-and-the-egg, that provides. It encompasses most of what I listed above. Some like Batman '66 existed before Crisis, but again, more on that later. Others are newly created for this "stage" of the Multiverse.

3.) The Flash film essentially causes the 3rd and final iteration of the live-action multiverse - Post-Flashpoint. This is a largely vague and so far unexplored territory/period for DC right now. The DCEU, DCU, Arrowverse (Earth-Prime) and Superman & Lois's unknown Earth are 100% part of it. Other Earths that existed prior to Flashpoint (but post-Crisis) presumably still exist or merged with other Earths. The specifics aren't fully explained yet, that's all for Gunn's team to decide for the future.

I'll give the viewing order later. Just wanted to explain the background some.
 
selfishmisery said:
Well, there's 3 "stages" of DC's Live-action Multiverse for starters:
1.) The 1st "stage" - Smallville (Earth-167) basically sets the stage for the Multiverse concept in season 10 and the Season 11 comics, although it never brings up other live-action continuities and it basically wipes out a bunch of nothing-Earths of the higher echelon to a smaller number by the time the Arrowverse begins - until Crisis on Infinite Earths.

2.) The 2nd "stage" is Post-Crisis. More on that when I have the time to explain what order, chicken-and-the-egg, that provides. It encompasses most of what I listed above. Some like Batman '66 existed before Crisis, but again, more on that later. Others are newly created for this "stage" of the Multiverse.

3.) The Flash film essentially causes the 3rd and final iteration of the live-action multiverse - Post-Flashpoint. This is a largely vague and so far unexplored territory/period for DC right now. The DCEU, DCU, Arrowverse (Earth-Prime) and Superman & Lois's unknown Earth are 100% part of it. Other Earths that existed prior to Flashpoint (but post-Crisis) presumably still exist or merged with other Earths. The specifics aren't fully explained yet, that's all for Gunn's team to decide for the future.

I'll give the viewing order later. Just wanted to explain the background some.
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Roger that. Asking as I'm planning to start Arrow S1 very soon, so I wanted to know an optimal order to explore the entirety of the DC multiverse(s), both Live-Action and Animated (barring nonsense like Teen Titans Go, obviously).
 
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