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You're good. I just can't get distracted and negate my responsibilities on most days.
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The Justice League reference happens very shortly after 28 minutes, 11 seconds in the film. Also, the film version of Freedom Fighters: The Ray is called "Freedom Fighters: The Ray", not "Freedom Fighters: The Ray - The Movie".
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Yo, I finally found it!!!
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Beebo Saves Christmas
Beebo Saves Christmas is a Christmas TV special that aired on December 1, 2021, with an encore presentation that aired on December 21, 2021. Yvette Nicole Brown as Turbo Ben Diskin as Beebo Keith Ferguson as Fleabo Victor Garber as Announcer Kimiko Glenn as Tweebo Ernie Hudson as Santa Claus...
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Okay so that's still consistent with his storyline through all of Legends of Tomorrow too.
I know the character has been mentioned a lot but that particular special was not mentioned once in-universe.In-universe fiction still counts, right?Beebo Saves Christmas
Beebo Saves Christmas is a Christmas TV special that aired on December 1, 2021, with an encore presentation that aired on December 21, 2021. Yvette Nicole Brown as Turbo Ben Diskin as Beebo Keith Ferguson as Fleabo Victor Garber as Announcer Kimiko Glenn as Tweebo Ernie Hudson as Santa Claus...arrow.fandom.com
I'll look into it when I can.
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Also, Neron = Manny (Neron took over Amenadiel's body and changed it to look unfamiliar, since poor Amenadiel was stuck guarding Hell while Lucifer was away.)
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Zed Martin's last scene was her getting flirty with Jim Corrigan right?
Maybe she left John for him after Constantine's final scene the two prevented both her fate with her dad and Jim from being Spectre.
Maybe she left John for him after Constantine's final scene the two prevented both her fate with her dad and Jim from being Spectre.
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They said it was canonical in-universe fiction according to the trivia.
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I honestly don't remember, but it sounds about right.
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Yeah, that short was actually really consistent with Legends of Tomorrow.
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Okay.
TTYL I gotta get ready for funeral services.
EDIT: I'm home.
TTYL I gotta get ready for funeral services.
EDIT: I'm home.
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I dig any theories that resolve Constantine.
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I definitely think the Amenadiel similarities (especially the time slowing powers) were intentional and internal, over at DC Television at that time. I don't know how, maybe producer notes or writers sharing ideas in case of future crossovers. Regardless, it's never outright confirmed but I think DC doesn't do that for the sake of casual audience understanding.
Even when Lucifer pilot aired and Amenadiel was talking about a rising dark threat at the gates of Hell he was preventing offscreen, that lines up with Constantine's "Rising Darkness", that in turn is resolved and ALMOST called what it was ("The darkness...is rising.") in Legends of Tomorrow.
Even around that same time in early-2016, you had Oliver drop a line about Constantine being "in Hell" briefly to where he couldn't help. Probably trying to split Neron and Amenadiel apart and stopping that mess.
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Even though the events of Lucifer are set post-Crisis, Amenadiel is still in Hell and Lucifer was on another Earth regardless pre-Crisis.
Considering the Jim Corrigan doppelgänger that was housing the Spectre wasn't housing Earth-1's, I assume his destiny and Zed's were not fulfilled and they lived happily ever after. You kinda have to assume the simplest outcome, since the comic storyline with Zed clearly was never going to play out onscreen and there's nothing to suggest it did offscreen.
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Despite none of the events being seen, Constantine still happened Post-Crisis due to John's will in Legends of Tomorrow referencing the Black Diamond, Chas, Nommo and Felix Faust. It makes sense that Lucifer could reference that.
I always assumed that that reference referred to the off-screen continuation of Constantine too.
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Do you consider City of Demons as part of the CW or as part of the DCAMU ?
I haven't watched any Arrowverse so I'm unsure as to what counts a show in or out. Does the antimatter wave in John Henry's flashback in Superman & Lois 1x12 give the series an explicit connection to the Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover?
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It's factually part of the DCAMU, confirmed by the people who worked on it. It completely contradicts the Arrowverse.
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It does. However, that doesn't make it Arrowverse any more than the DCEU or Stargirl.
The Arrowverse, I would say, used to refer to the entire multiverse. Then, when Crisis on Infinite Earths happened, that could no longer be considered the case due to how many things were connected.
So, Earth-Prime is the Arrowverse for simplicity. Earth-1, Earth-38 and Earth-BL can be taken as Arrowverse due to Earth-Prime being a merger of those worlds.
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