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Okay guys, what's going on with marvel here? We're getting too many of these creepy, scrawny, pointless female characters. X-23, Arana, the new Scorpion. what's the point? Anyone? Help me out here guys.
Wow, did you draw alot of conclusions from me thinking these girls are scrawny. I'm not calling for a return to CHAOS comics here either Gavin, but a move twords realism, a middle ground. I don't know any girls that looked like the ones being portrayed there, in either respect.Gavin Bennett said:As opposed to pneumatic, buxom, super chicks of exaggerated proportions?
A lot of girls look like the characters you describe, especially in their early teens, which is where a lot of those characters seem to be. The blonde haired, big boobed corn-fed mid-western sorts you seem to prefer tend not to remain in shape beyond their mid-twenties much. The nearest equivalent involves plastic surgery.
The slim waisted, big breasted "non creepy" variety of comic book women are an adolescent male ideal, and a major "turn off" to a lot of potential female readers. Female readers have a hard enough time justifying comic book reading without ridiculous charicatures.
Gavin
What mighty superpowers of extrapolation you have, my dear Gavin. You managed to deduce Baxter's taste in women from but a single 33 word complaint.Gavin Bennett said:As opposed to pneumatic, buxom, super chicks of exaggerated proportions?
A lot of girls look like the characters you describe, especially in their early teens, which is where a lot of those characters seem to be. The blonde haired, big boobed corn-fed mid-western sorts you seem to prefer tend not to remain in shape beyond their mid-twenties much. The nearest equivalent involves plastic surgery.
The slim waisted, big breasted "non creepy" variety of comic book women are an adolescent male ideal, and a major "turn off" to a lot of potential female readers. Female readers have a hard enough time justifying comic book reading without ridiculous charicatures.
Gavin
ourchair said:If you wanna look For REAL representations of alternative body image for girls in your comic books, then DUH, look no further than Gertrude Stein from Runaways.
It's the closest thing to cursing without being censored.Guijllons said:And chair, you really do have quite a flair for British slang for a Filipino
See, In indie books, the creators already spend so much time trying to make the stories so realistic, down to earth and full of quotidian angst that nobody cares how realisitcally proportioned the characters are.Guijillons said:Of course the lesser known books and indie racks have women of all shapes and sizes, and men of all shapes and sizes (but men are in all shapes and sizes anyway, we get away with it). But where's the need for additional realism in those books anyway? Most deal with subjects that are far more down to earth as is.
Clifford Stoll once said, "Why should anyone spend hours downloading grainy pornographic pictures? People ought to be out in the real world having real sex with each other." :wink:Guijillons said:In the age of information, where pictures of scantily clad buxom and otherwise attractive women have never been easier to find. Is it really required that permeate every aspect of visual media?
Lord yes Gen 13 has scarred many a child.ourchair said:On that note, I firmly believe that ALL superhero comic books should NEVER feature overly fantastic bodies. Dear Marvel, our minds have difficulty suspending our disbelief over superpowers. Please do not tax them more than necessary. Gen 13 already traumatized our disbelief centers.
I think we an all agree with that.Clifford Stoll once said, "Why should anyone spend hours downloading grainy pornographic pictures? People ought to be out in the real world having real sex with each other." :wink:
And I think we can all agree that "Igh" is the only aceptable responce to thatThis might just be the Psych major in me, but I think there's some kind of deeply disturbing psychological problem behind a fan of X-Books who decides to pick up a comic for the titillating image of a young, nubile female version of everyone's favorite hairy cigar-chomping claw-toting mutant. Yes, I am suggesting that all male readers of X-23 comics have confused fantasies of Wolverine.
One of his former lovers complained that not EVERY "bone" in his body is adamantium hard.Guijllons said:Hehe, you may be quite right, I always did have a slight concern about his claws that can be unsheathed and penetrate anything.
At the moment, I don't give a flying petunia about the children, think of ME! I swear this thread started out in an almost wholesome manner.ourchair said:One of his former lovers complained that not EVERY "bone" in his body is adamantium hard.