How "Kewl" is it when Nick Fury gets his *** handed to him by the up and coming hero

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Ultimate Extinction - Nick Fury tells Reed he wants him to do his research and studies at the Triskelion. Reed argues with him and tells him he'd rather work in his own enviorment and makes an "Bill Gates" analogy and the audience eats it up and loves it.

Ultimate Spider-Man (Hobgoblin) - After Hobgoblin wreaks havok on the streets of New York. Nick Fury takes him down to detain him (not kill him) Spider-Man gets angry because Harry is his friend and punches Fury. The Audience eats it up and loves it.

What the **** is wrong with people? Nick Fury is in charge, period. Nick Fury is a specialist in all of this superhero bull**** that has suddenly hit the earth full force. And every fanboy is so impressed when some punk backtalks him. Simply, retarded. I hope someone writes it into a story where one of these amateur punks blows Fury off and ends up getting killed because of it.
 

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I love it.

Fury may be this "bad***" person, but that don't mean he can't get his *** handed to him on way or another here and there. It's not done all the time or frequently.
 

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icemastertron said:
I love it.

Fury may be this "bad***" person, but that don't mean he can't get his *** handed to him on way or another here and there. It's not done all the time or frequently.

I'm not gonna lie. I like the scenes too but I hate how people think it's the coolest thing ever. Nick Fury let's these kids play on his playground.
 

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TheManWithoutFear said:
I'm not gonna lie. I like the scenes too but I hate how people think it's the coolest thing ever. Nick Fury let's these kids play on his playground.
Yeah, I don't know if it's the coolest thing ever, but it is enjoyable.
 

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I can't wait for Fury to go "Order 66" on all the superheroes.
 

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It is cool to see the overly contolling guy get his once in a while. Though I never recall hearing anyone go nuts over reading it. Who are these people?
 

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It is cool to see the overly contolling guy get his once in a while. Though I never recall hearing anyone go nuts over reading it. Who are these people?

Just see people's initial reactions to the issue when the first read it on any message board. Everyone goes geek because "the bad guy" (Fury) gets talked down on.
 

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TheManWithoutFear said:
Ultimate Extinction - Nick Fury tells Reed he wants him to do his research and studies at the Triskelion. Reed argues with him and tells him he'd rather work in his own enviorment and makes an "Bill Gates" analogy and the audience eats it up and loves it.

Ultimate Spider-Man (Hobgoblin) - After Hobgoblin wreaks havok on the streets of New York. Nick Fury takes him down to detain him (not kill him) Spider-Man gets angry because Harry is his friend and punches Fury. The Audience eats it up and loves it.

What the **** is wrong with people? Nick Fury is in charge, period. Nick Fury is a specialist in all of this superhero bull**** that has suddenly hit the earth full force. And every fanboy is so impressed when some punk backtalks him. Simply, retarded. I hope someone writes it into a story where one of these amateur punks blows Fury off and ends up getting killed because of it.

People hate authority.
 

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TheManWithoutFear said:
People are idiots.
But now, just cuz you're authority don't mean you're right 100%. I have that issue with adults. I was told once because someone is an adult, they're automatically right without question whatsoever.
 

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icemastertron said:
But now, just cuz you're authority don't mean you're right 100%. I have that issue with adults. I was told once because someone is an adult, they're automatically right without question whatsoever.
Not all adults are right. But the ones who are carefully picked to be the head of America's number 1 security force usually would know what he's talking about.
 
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Adults are big kids, just as childish as any fourteen year old, but they hide it better.
 

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TheManWithoutFear said:
Not all adults are right. But the ones who are carefully picked to be the head of America's number 1 security force usually would know what he's talking about.

If your best friend had just been put through hell infront of your eyes, I don't really think it would matter how important Fury was. Peter felt like S.H.I.E.L.D. messed up, and now Harry had lost everything because of it.

I didn't really have feelings either way towards it, I just thought it made sense.

And I haven't read UE yet, so I don't have a comment on Mr. Fantastic.
 

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If your best friend had just been put through hell infront of your eyes, I don't really think it would matter how important Fury was. Peter felt like S.H.I.E.L.D. messed up, and now Harry had lost everything because of it.

The saddest part about that was not that Harry was so screwed up, but that Poor Pete considered him his best friend.

I don't think Bendis handled that friendship properly.
 

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In UE it wasnt getting his *** handed too him, he was being told "no". Calm down.

And in USM Pete's gonna be getting the smack he earned.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
What the **** is wrong with people? Nick Fury is in charge, period. Nick Fury is a specialist in all of this superhero bull**** that has suddenly hit the earth full force. And every fanboy is so impressed when some punk backtalks him. Simply, retarded. I hope someone writes it into a story where one of these amateur punks blows Fury off and ends up getting killed because of it.

Because of the power and authority Fury wields, he should be challenged the most. The Anti-Ultimates have the right idea.

One of the central themes of the Ultimate Universe has been the danger of centralizing power - see Ultimate Six #7 for the best example of this.

Reed Richards knows Reed Richards better than Nick Fury does; if Fury wants to tell him how to do his research, and Reed accepts, he'll do less good work. Work that's less good and closer to Fury isn't better for saving the world than good work done on the other side of town.

Besides, a chopper? Lame. A catapult or rocket-powered box would be much faster and funnier.

Don't get me wrong - I love the idea of Ultimate Fury, and I love Fury's Superscience gizmos (UXM 9 are a good example), but that in no way means he doesn't make mistakes, or shouldn't be called on them.

Likewise, blowing Fury off shouldn't mean death.
 

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Becoming a superpowered human would probably cause 95% of people to get too big for their britches. And that's a conservative estimate.

In the real world, even the movie and music stars who "remained down to earth" are not exactly what most people would consider "down to earth". Especially if they try to convince you otherwise ("Jenny from the block" anyone?). So in a comic book where people become no only extremely famous, but also super powered... The Ultimate Universe is probably downplaying the amount of friction and "prima donna syndrome" that would be going on if this were for real (even though we see a lot more of it than in 616 which is why some people may feel there is too much of it).

And of course, Fury being essentially the utlimate authority on all super-humans affair, he is gonna get most of the crap thrown his way.

At this point the only people who snapped back at Fury were essentially right or at least sympathetic. If you ask me, it is high time for "good guys" to push back against Fury even though they are basically wrong. But hey, they figure they know better and who is he to tell them what to do? That would be fun. A tiny bit of this already happened, like when the X-Men decided to act on their own against the ex-Weapon-X soldier in the Blockbuster arc. But what I want is a big fat blunder on the part of a hero whose ego has gotten Tom Cruise big and who won't listen the director or his publicist anymore.

PS : I'm also happy to see Fury blunder through arrogance and "We-know-better" paternalism. But he has reached his quota, if you ask me. Spread the joy.
 
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I thought it was stupid how Reed *****-slapped Fury in Extinction.

The guy is head of SHIELD. He doesn't take **** from teen Reed.

And he doesn't bow his head and apologise to Xavier for saying "Hop to it" when he's saving the world.

He's Nick Fury. If Xavier can't get it's just a colloquialism, if Reed can't understand Fury's in charge, then... well, I don't believe it.

It's Nick Fury.
 

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People actually embrace authority. Read up on some psychology.

I have noticed that the Ultimate universe is very um... evil. Like more so than the real world or the 616 universe. People seem to be hidden agendas on top of their hidden agendas. There are very few genuinely good people in the Ultimate universe. Even the heros... Nick Fury is so paranoid as to hire a hitman to kill himself so he can kill the hitman first... That is just jacked up! Peter is good-hearted but has no self-confidence at all. I really can't think of one Ultimate universe character, hero or otherwise, that isn't A. Crazy B. Stupid C. Arrogant or D. Evil. Everyone is at least one of these things, it can be kind of depressing!
 

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People actually embrace authority. Read up on some psychology.

People. Not the Famous people, the CEOs, the psychopaths, the spooks... and obviously super powered beings if they existed. These people think rules shouldn't apply to themselves. Read up some psychology. ;)

Beside, few people truly embrace authority. Most people usually submit to it. There's a huge difference. That means as soon as a person gets some power, he is likely to become much less submissive to authority. Why do you think a cop is much more likely to bully a construction worker than the well connected CEO of a Fortune 500 company when trying to obtain some answers in the course of an investigation? Because while the cop represents the same level of authority in both case, the CEO is much more powerful than the construction worker. He has loads of money, powerful friends in the administration and top notch lawyers at his beck and call. The cop could see his career broken if he is not careful with the CEO and pushes too far, a situation that is unlikely to occur with the construction worker. The CEO knows it, the Construction worker knows it and the cop knows it. And so everybody acts accordingly.

The same powerplays occurs in every aspect of society and the rule of thumb is you only submit if you have to.

I really can't think of one Ultimate universe character, hero or otherwise, that isn't A. Crazy B. Stupid C. Arrogant or D. Evil. Everyone is at least one of these things, it can be kind of depressing!

You just mentioned Peter Parker! In the sentence just before that one! He is not crazy, stupid, arrogant or evil.
 
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