Remember when the Hawkeye writers said they were extra careful to not contradict the Netflix shows?
I am not asking you to agree with but c'mon it's not as far fetched as you two are making it. Marvel is smart. I think they will find a way to get around much of the 'required' watching and keep it self contained enough for new viewers.
I think you're right about the required viewing bit. They definitely are using the old stuff as a background, the cufflinks show this, however I think they'll also avoid making anything a direct continuation or otherwise offical so that A. It's not "required" viewing as you said while still rewarding to those that watched it and B. Allows them to make changes such as Vanessa's casting or other liberties they may need going forward.
Honestly it is kinda the perfect place for them to put these shows and I understand why they did it. Freedom go change what they want to without needing to start these characters from scratch because they were done well and generally loved by fans. Unfortunately from a timeline and in-universe perspective the best answer is most of Marvel Television happens in a branched timeline due to the changes they make as small or noticable as they are. But that's just my opinion on the matter, like I said I think this timeline should keep the Marvel Television shows in it as they are/were a part of it officially
But like you said, just wait and see I guess. That's all we can do until Born Again (or perhaps Echo) give us a deeper look and their corner of the MCU
I don't think it'll matter that much. Just look at it as any other recast and imagine she just happens to look like this now. Apart from the race change, they look similar enough in my opinion.
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Let's say Matt, Frank, Fisk, Jessica and Foggy are the same cast but Venessa is different in her tiny role in the show, then does it really matter?
I don't think it'll matter that much. Just look at it as any other recast and imagine she just happens to look like this now. Apart from the race change, they look similar enough in my opinion. View attachment 1008
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Let's say Matt, Frank, Fisk, Jessica and Foggy are the same cast but Venessa is different in her tiny role in the show, then does it really matter?
I will say they do look similar for sure . And I'm happy they didn't recast the others cause they're awesome in their roles 100%. And I definitely don't think her recast will matter cause yeah it's happened in the MCU before and sometimes recasts happen and you gotta move on. However personally, I can't ignore a race change of a character as absolutely nothing. Had they recast another Israeli actress (I believe she was Israeli?), then I'd still be on "it's still MCU canon" team despite a recast. But this is a more significant change to me than something like the Darkhold not looking the same, to me it's enough to say somewhere the MCU branched.
But one thing I can't stress enough is exactly what Pro Bot said "does it really matter?" They are clearly respecting the old Netflix shows, they're bringing back actors where they can, even little details like the Cufflinks aren't being ignored as Slefishmissery pointed out they stated they are trying not to contradict the old series outright. There's enough to say it's still in the MCU for sure, there's enough to says it's in a branched timeline. Anyway we look at it, thanks to the multiverse, it's canon, the shows happened and they will still matter same timeline or not. And I think we can all agree that we can't wait to see these characters return, however slightly they may be altered to fit the larger MCU now.
I think saying it's a multiverse situation is a bit silly, especially since she apparently has a smaller role in the show anyway. They're much more similar than Norton and Mark, and I don't really care about the race change... at all. It honestly makes no difference. Back in '95, Two-Face literally changed into a white man. Hell, in the 60s Bat-Verse, Catwoman is always changing faces, and her race goes from white to black and back again. It's happened before and this is no where near as bad as those cases. It's even better than recasts of the same race in the MCU, lol.
No need to overcomplicate things. They see the events of Netflix as canon, they just recast one character. That's all that matters for me.
I think saying it's a multiverse situation is a bit silly, especially since she apparently has a smaller role in the show anyway. They're much more similar than Norton and Mark, and I don't really care about the race change... at all. It honestly makes no difference. Back in '95, Two-Face literally changed into a white man. Hell, in the 60s Bat-Verse, Catwoman is always changing faces, and her race goes from white to black and back again. It's happened before and this is no where near as bad as those cases. It's even better than recasts of the same race in the MCU, lol.
No need to overcomplicate things. They see the events of Netflix as canon, they just recast one character. That's all that matters for me.
Until Kang is 100% dealt with and the multiverse is officially closed, it will always be a safety net for recasts and odd changes made when bringing the older shows back. I mean, let's be honest for a second, the shows all ended before Endgame, but there was still the baseball glove argument that could be used to argue recasts. We don't really know. But Loki proved that both the same actor and different actors can play the same role at the same time. I mean...Black Loki anyone? So it isn't out of the realm of possibility to suggest that even something as small as taking a baseball glove from the past by Hawkeye resulted in a different Vanessa in the current timeline.
By that logic, you might as well say Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are variant timelines. Hell, you might as well say Civil War, Infinity War and Black Widow are because of General Ross.
I hate that people pick and choose which recasts are "alternate universes". None of them are alternate universes, lol. They're playing the same version of Vanessa. It's a dumb explanation for a simple change.
The baseball glove argument doesn't even make sense anyway. She would still go from looking like one person to another regardless of whether she's from the main timeline or the "baseball glove" timeline because that's how the timeline split works.
By that logic, you might as well say Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are variant timelines. Hell, you might as well say Civil War, Infinity War and Black Widow are because of General Ross.
I hate that people pick and choose which recasts are "alternate universes". None of them are alternate universes, lol. They're playing the same version of Vanessa. It's a dumb explanation for a simple change.
It's not a "dumb explanation" it's perfectly valid, it's just not one you want to accept as possible. And like I said before that's fine because there's plenty of reason on both sides for either to be perfect valid which is kinda the issue. You know perfectly well why the other MCU recasts are different than this so don't try to pull that shit to make your point because we all know why that isn't the same. Anyone here can say it's "a bit silly" as you put it, to compare the interconnected nature of the MCU, which is well known for the same actor reprising their roles over various different series, to a completely unrealated 60s show or to old Batman films (which have since been made two separate universes anyway so that just backed up the other side). But no one did, they let you have your opinion because it's just fine.
Don't be insulting or demeaning to others opinions on here just because they don't agree with yours, save that shit for Reddit and Twitter. This isn't even a debate, there's no changes that need to be made to the timeline or decisions well all need to come to on here. It's just two different ways of looking at the old shows that honestly changes nothing. So don't get angry, so don't call them dumb, don't call them silly, don't be rude just because you don't agree. You don't have to agree, but please be respectful before this becomes a fight on here.
I apologise for coming across as rude, it wasn't personal.
That's the thing though... this recast isn't any different. I'm not pretending anything, I'm just being clear and honest. It's not that it's different, it's that there's a clear prejudice against those shows. The fact that they've now directly crossed over and the history of Netflix is intact, but a recast of a character with an actress who looks pretty damn similar apparently leads to a pointless discussion about the multiverse when it has absolutely no business being involved here. There's still people who think The Incredible Hulk is a different universe.
I apologise for coming across as rude, it wasn't personal.
That's the thing though... this recast isn't any different. I'm not pretending anything, I'm just being clear and honest. It's not that it's different, it's that there's a clear prejudice against those shows. The fact that they've now directly crossed over and the history of Netflix is intact, but a recast of a character with an actress who looks pretty damn similar apparently leads to a pointless discussion about the multiverse when it has absolutely no business being involved here. There's still people who think The Incredible Hulk is a different universe.
Fair enough, I do disagree but I've already stated why. I do however agree that this debate has no real business being here until something actually changes and it's not just different opinions and as Selfishmisery said earlier further debating this pointlessly will open up a can of worms I don't think any of us want to deal with yet.
You’re right there isn’t, or more specifically there shouldn’t be. And I will fully admit this is a personal issue I’ve had with the MCU as of late, but they made a very specific decision about T’Challa that they’ve ignored going forward or even backward. Regardless of my opinion on the situation, they decided not to recast a role that an actor can’t or won’t return to. They split the hairs there.
So while yes it shouldn’t matter, they made another decision on Cassie, on Ross, and now Vanessa that simply has to be accepted. And for me it won’t be without its controversy until the MCU proves it otherwise.
Where once the long form continuity extended to even the actors playing the roles for the most part, now it seems like they have no rules and anyone can play anyone or not at all purely on the whims of marvel that day.
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.
"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.
Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)
April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)
April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)
May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)
May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)
May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)
May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)
May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)
May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)
May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)
May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)
May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)
May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"
May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)
May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)
May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)
May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)
May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)
May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.
"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.
Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)
April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)
April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)
May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)
May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)
May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)
May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)
May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)
May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)
May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)
May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)
May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)
May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"
May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)
May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)
May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)
May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)
May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)
May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
What If's an alternate reality, but Janet turning everyone into a zombie shouldn't have affected when the Black Order arrives on Earth. I currently have my timeline the same as yours and just assume the final scene with Frank and Amy at the bus stop is early enough in the day to be before Thanos's snap. It's obvious it wasn't meant to be the same day, but I think it works.
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.
"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.
Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)
April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)
April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)
May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)
May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)
May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)
May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)
May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)
May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)
May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)
May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)
May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)
May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"
May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)
May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)
May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)
May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)
May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)
May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
Yes, but the 13 is very small, blink and you miss it, and blurry. You barely even see for for half a second before he swipes the phone, so that was probably just the date they filmed that scene. There had already been phone dates in Daredevil S1 that didn't line up either.
In Endgame, Hawkeye makes a trip testing the time travel machine and he goes to the past before the snap, but he returns before he can interact with his daughter. I think the daughter was playing baseball or something (?) So, in theory by time travel logic he should have created an alternate timeline exactly like the main one but with him being present there just seconds, even if no one notices him, the timeline is technically slightly different. I am not sure what was the argument to bring it here but I guess is the typical little thing that is sure to cause lots of theories in fans wondering how the time travel logic applies, so maybe there has been a "baseball glove timeline" discussion about it here or something
Honestly even if they hadn't I think we'd see her as Vanessa Fisk anyways. It's been so many years since the last season and Vanessa Fisk is the more well known comic name (I don't think we've really ever seen her not married to him in the comics).
I am interested tho in the fact that this is not only the first recast we've seen in like over 10 years and the first race change to happen. Every time they do something to directly connect to the old Netflix series, like Fisk's cufflinks which originate from the series not the comics, they do something to stir up the canon debate
Honestly, I'm hoping that the recast is due to reasons like the original actress not wanting to return or scheduling issues. And after all, as selfishmisery said earlier, the Hawkeye writers said they didn't want to contradict Daredevil, plus Vincent D'Onofrio himself even said in an interview that Hawkeye's Kingpin was the same Kingpin from Daredevil.