Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

I think saying it's a multiverse situation is a bit silly, especially since she apparently has a smaller role in the show anyway. They're much more similar than Norton and Mark, and I don't really care about the race change... at all. It honestly makes no difference. Back in '95, Two-Face literally changed into a white man. Hell, in the 60s Bat-Verse, Catwoman is always changing faces, and her race goes from white to black and back again. It's happened before and this is no where near as bad as those cases. It's even better than recasts of the same race in the MCU, lol.

No need to overcomplicate things. They see the events of Netflix as canon, they just recast one character. That's all that matters for me.
Until Kang is 100% dealt with and the multiverse is officially closed, it will always be a safety net for recasts and odd changes made when bringing the older shows back. I mean, let's be honest for a second, the shows all ended before Endgame, but there was still the baseball glove argument that could be used to argue recasts. We don't really know. But Loki proved that both the same actor and different actors can play the same role at the same time. I mean...Black Loki anyone? So it isn't out of the realm of possibility to suggest that even something as small as taking a baseball glove from the past by Hawkeye resulted in a different Vanessa in the current timeline.
 
By that logic, you might as well say Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are variant timelines. Hell, you might as well say Civil War, Infinity War and Black Widow are because of General Ross.

I hate that people pick and choose which recasts are "alternate universes". None of them are alternate universes, lol. They're playing the same version of Vanessa. It's a dumb explanation for a simple change.
 
The baseball glove argument doesn't even make sense anyway. She would still go from looking like one person to another regardless of whether she's from the main timeline or the "baseball glove" timeline because that's how the timeline split works.
 
By that logic, you might as well say Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are variant timelines. Hell, you might as well say Civil War, Infinity War and Black Widow are because of General Ross.

I hate that people pick and choose which recasts are "alternate universes". None of them are alternate universes, lol. They're playing the same version of Vanessa. It's a dumb explanation for a simple change.
It's not a "dumb explanation" it's perfectly valid, it's just not one you want to accept as possible. And like I said before that's fine because there's plenty of reason on both sides for either to be perfect valid which is kinda the issue. You know perfectly well why the other MCU recasts are different than this so don't try to pull that shit to make your point because we all know why that isn't the same. Anyone here can say it's "a bit silly" as you put it, to compare the interconnected nature of the MCU, which is well known for the same actor reprising their roles over various different series, to a completely unrealated 60s show or to old Batman films (which have since been made two separate universes anyway so that just backed up the other side). But no one did, they let you have your opinion because it's just fine.

Don't be insulting or demeaning to others opinions on here just because they don't agree with yours, save that shit for Reddit and Twitter. This isn't even a debate, there's no changes that need to be made to the timeline or decisions well all need to come to on here. It's just two different ways of looking at the old shows that honestly changes nothing. So don't get angry, so don't call them dumb, don't call them silly, don't be rude just because you don't agree. You don't have to agree, but please be respectful before this becomes a fight on here.
 
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I apologise for coming across as rude, it wasn't personal.

That's the thing though... this recast isn't any different. I'm not pretending anything, I'm just being clear and honest. It's not that it's different, it's that there's a clear prejudice against those shows. The fact that they've now directly crossed over and the history of Netflix is intact, but a recast of a character with an actress who looks pretty damn similar apparently leads to a pointless discussion about the multiverse when it has absolutely no business being involved here. There's still people who think The Incredible Hulk is a different universe.

There is no difference.
 
I apologise for coming across as rude, it wasn't personal.

That's the thing though... this recast isn't any different. I'm not pretending anything, I'm just being clear and honest. It's not that it's different, it's that there's a clear prejudice against those shows. The fact that they've now directly crossed over and the history of Netflix is intact, but a recast of a character with an actress who looks pretty damn similar apparently leads to a pointless discussion about the multiverse when it has absolutely no business being involved here. There's still people who think The Incredible Hulk is a different universe.

There is no difference.
Fair enough, I do disagree but I've already stated why. I do however agree that this debate has no real business being here until something actually changes and it's not just different opinions and as Selfishmisery said earlier further debating this pointlessly will open up a can of worms I don't think any of us want to deal with yet.
 
There is no difference.
You're right there isn't, or more specifically there shouldn't be. And I will fully admit this is a personal issue I've had with the MCU as of late, but they made a very specific decision about T'Challa that they've ignored going forward or even backward. Regardless of my opinion on the situation, they decided not to recast a role that an actor can't or won't return to. They split the hairs there.

So while yes it shouldn't matter, they made another decision on Cassie, on Ross, and now Vanessa that simply has to be accepted. And for me it won't be without its controversy until the MCU proves it otherwise.

Where once the long form continuity extended to even the actors playing the roles for the most part, now it seems like they have no rules and anyone can play anyone or not at all purely on the whims of marvel that day.
 
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.

"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.

Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)

April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)

April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)

May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)

May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)

May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)

May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)

May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)

May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)

May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)

May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)

May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)

May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"

May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)

May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)

May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)

May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)

May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)

May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
 
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.

"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.

Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)

April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)

April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)

May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)

May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)

May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)

May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)

May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)

May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)

May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)

May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)

May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)

May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"

May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)

May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)

May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)

May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)

May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)

May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
What If's an alternate reality, but Janet turning everyone into a zombie shouldn't have affected when the Black Order arrives on Earth. I currently have my timeline the same as yours and just assume the final scene with Frank and Amy at the bus stop is early enough in the day to be before Thanos's snap. It's obvious it wasn't meant to be the same day, but I think it works.
 
I'd like to have a small discussion regarding The Punisher S2.

"The Punisher 2x09: ""Flustercluck"" (0:08:52 - 0:49:41)" - At 0:13:09, the phone calendar says it is the 13th.

Shouldn't this be taken as an accurate date? I did a personal write-up of it for myself based on the wiki if you want to have a look at it.
April
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapters 1-22)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:00 - 0:00:31) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:32 - 0:00:37)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:38 - 0:00:47) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:48 - 0:00:53)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:00:54 - 0:01:04) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:01:05 - 0:05:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:38 - 0:21:08)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:20:14 - 0:20:37)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:47 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:09 - 0:21:15)

April 29
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:01:11 - 0:17:03)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:09 - 0:17:29)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:04 - 0:17:08)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:50 - 0:18:02)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:00 - 0:19:06)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:01 - 0:20:13)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:17:30 - 0:17:49)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:03 - 0:18:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:18:06 - 0:18:59) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:19:07 - 0:20:00)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:20:14 - 0:44:35)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:01:10)
The Punisher 2x01: "Roadhouse Blues" (0:44:36 - 0:51:00)

April 30
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:00:00 - 0:19:46)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 1: "Prologue" (0:03:27 - 0:04:01)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 2: "World's Greatest Grandma" (0:04:02 - 0:10:14)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:19:47 - 0:28:32)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:15 - 0:10:24)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:28:33 - 0:36:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:25 - 0:10:35)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:36:19 - 0:38:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:36 - 0:10:43)
The Punisher 2x02: "Fight or Flight" (0:38:14 - 0:52:46)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:05:39 - 0:06:06)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:44 - 0:10:50)

May 1
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:06:07 - 0:12:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:10:51 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:12:46 - 0:21:18)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:11:02 - 0:12:10)
The Punisher 2x03: "Trouble the Water" (0:21:19 - 0:49:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:12:11 - 0:13:15)
Ant-Man and the Wasp - The Heroes' Journey (Chapter 23, Epilogue)

May 2
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 3: "'Easy Peasy'" (0:13:16 - 0:13:38)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:00:00 - 0:02:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 4: "Quantum Entanglement" (0:13:39 - 0:21:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:53 - 0:05:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:02:21 - 0:04:32)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:33 - 0:04:45) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:04:46 - 0:04:52)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:05:21 - 0:10:09)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 5: "Kitchen Conflict" (0:21:24 - 0:29:05)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:29:06 - 0:32:23)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:10:10 - 0:11:20)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:25 - 0:15:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 6: "Bill Foster" (0:32:24 - 0:36:07)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:15:46 - 0:19:07)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 7: "Student Body" (0:36:08 - 0:40:54)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:19:08 - 0:19:46)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:21:16 - 0:25:27)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:04 - 0:28:47)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:40:55 - 0:42:48)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:42:49 - 0:45:27)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:30 - 0:45:31)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:32 - 0:45:34) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:35 - 0:45:36)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:45:37 - 0:46:26) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:46:27 - 0:46:42)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:09 - 0:47:13)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:17 - 0:47:30) (Audio Only)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 8: "Molecular Disequilibrium" (0:47:31 - 0:50:15)

May 3
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:28:48 - 0:43:20)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 9: "Truth Serum" (0:50:16 - 0:58:57)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 10: "Help From Janet" (0:58:58 - 1:04:54)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 11: "Partners" (1:04:55 - 1:12:52)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 12: "Misdirection" (1:12:53 - 1:18:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 13: "San Francisco Car Chase" (1:18:31 - 1:24:43)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 14: "Giant-Man" (1:24:44 - 1:29:45)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 15: "The Quantum Void" (1:29:46 - 1:36:14)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 16: "Extraction" (1:36:15 - 1:43:33)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:43:34 - 1:45:09)
What If...? 1x05: "What If... Zombies?!" (0:05:02 - 0:06:17) (Earth-89521)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:43:21 - 0:52:01)
The Punisher 2x04: "Scar Tissue" (0:54:40 - 0:55:52)
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:00:00 - 0:08:12)

May 4
The Punisher 2x05: "One-Eyed Jacks" (0:08:13 - 0:49:12)

May 5
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 17: "Happy Endings" (1:45:10 - 1:46:58)

May 7
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:00:00 - 0:20:44)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:52 - 0:21:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:12 - 0:21:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:42 - 0:25:53)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:20:45 - 0:20:51)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:10 - 0:21:11)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:37 - 0:21:41)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:21:50 - 0:25:53)

May 8
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:25:54 - 0:26:00)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:10 - 0:26:24)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:32 - 0:26:36)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:49 - 0:27:15)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:01 - 0:26:09)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:25 - 0:26:31)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:26:37 - 0:26:48)
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:27:16 - 0:43:51)

May 9
The Punisher 2x06: "Nakazat" (0:43:52 - 0:54:42)
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:06:10 - 0:08:56)

May 10
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:08:57 - 0:28:01)

May 11
The Punisher 2x07: "One Bad Day" (0:28:02 - 0:49:40)
The Punisher 2x08: "My Brother's Keeper"

May 12
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:00:00 - 0:06:12)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:23 - 0:06:24)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:30 - 0:06:32)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:37 - 0:06:38)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:41 - 0:06:42)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:50 - 0:07:15)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:28 - 0:07:53)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:27 - 0:08:51)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:13 - 0:06:22)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:25 - 0:06:29)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:33 - 0:06:36)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:39 - 0:06:40)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:06:43 - 0:06:49) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:16 - 0:07:27)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:07:54 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:08:52 - 0:09:38)

May 13
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:09:39 - 0:49:41)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:29 - 0:05:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:21 - 0:05:51)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:14:55 - 0:15:17)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:28 - 0:15:36)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:44 - 0:15:52)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:58 - 0:16:08)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:18 - 0:16:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:26:38 - 0:27:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:02 - 0:27:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:13 - 0:27:43)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:44 - 0:27:48) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:49 - 0:27:56)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:27:57 - 0:28:07) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:08 - 0:28:50)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:27 - 0:34:54)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:17 - 0:35:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:43:39 - 0:44:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:16 - 0:44:35) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:49:42 - 0:53:29)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:10:24 - 0:11:01)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:12 - 0:11:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:27 - 0:11:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:45 - 0:11:47)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:59 - 0:14:54)
The Punisher 2x09: "Flustercluck" (0:53:30 - 0:55:43)

May 14
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:31 - 0:10:23)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:02 - 0:11:11)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:17 - 0:11:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:35 - 0:11:44)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:11:48 - 0:11:58)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:18 - 0:15:27) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:37 - 0:15:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:15:53 - 0:15:57) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:09 - 0:16:17) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:16:27 - 0:20:34)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:40 - 0:22:40)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:02:07 - 0:03:12)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:03:13 - 0:03:28) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:17 - 0:05:20) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:05:52 - 0:06:05) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:06:06 - 0:08:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:22:41 - 0:26:37)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:28:51 - 0:29:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:03 - 0:29:15)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:21 - 0:34:26)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:34:55 - 0:35:12) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:13 - 0:35:16)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:31 - 0:35:43) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:35:59 - 0:37:59)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:08:27 - 0:08:30)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:20:35 - 0:20:39)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:29:16 - 0:29:20)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:38:00 - 0:43:38)
The Punisher 2x10: "The Dark Hearts of Men" (0:44:36 - 0:45:13)

May 15
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:00:00 - 0:39:14)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:37 - 0:39:51) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:39:52 - 0:41:19)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:25 - 0:41:36)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:41 - 0:41:43)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:46 - 0:41:50)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:53 - 0:41:57)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Audio Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:03 - 0:42:21)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:20 - 0:41:24) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:37 - 0:41:40)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:44 - 0:41:45)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:51 - 0:41:52)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:41:58 - 0:42:02) (Video Only)
The Punisher 2x11: "The Abyss" (0:42:22 - 0:52:26)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:00:00 - 0:46:25)
The Punisher 2x12: "Collision Course" (0:46:40 - 0:47:45)

May 16
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:00:00 - 0:49:26)

May 17
The Punisher 2x13: "The Whirlwind" (0:49:27 - 0:52:57)
I personally don't care much about the What If...? timeline events because technically speaking it's an alternate reality.
Yes, but the 13 is very small, blink and you miss it, and blurry. You barely even see for for half a second before he swipes the phone, so that was probably just the date they filmed that scene. There had already been phone dates in Daredevil S1 that didn't line up either.
 
What is this "baseball glove" thing people are talking about?
In Endgame, Hawkeye makes a trip testing the time travel machine and he goes to the past before the snap, but he returns before he can interact with his daughter. I think the daughter was playing baseball or something (?) So, in theory by time travel logic he should have created an alternate timeline exactly like the main one but with him being present there just seconds, even if no one notices him, the timeline is technically slightly different. I am not sure what was the argument to bring it here but I guess is the typical little thing that is sure to cause lots of theories in fans wondering how the time travel logic applies, so maybe there has been a "baseball glove timeline" discussion about it here or something
 
Let's gooo, Frank's back!!
Honestly even if they hadn't I think we'd see her as Vanessa Fisk anyways. It's been so many years since the last season and Vanessa Fisk is the more well known comic name (I don't think we've really ever seen her not married to him in the comics).

I am interested tho in the fact that this is not only the first recast we've seen in like over 10 years and the first race change to happen. Every time they do something to directly connect to the old Netflix series, like Fisk's cufflinks which originate from the series not the comics, they do something to stir up the canon debate
Honestly, I'm hoping that the recast is due to reasons like the original actress not wanting to return or scheduling issues. And after all, as selfishmisery said earlier, the Hawkeye writers said they didn't want to contradict Daredevil, plus Vincent D'Onofrio himself even said in an interview that Hawkeye's Kingpin was the same Kingpin from Daredevil.
 
Yes, but the 13 is very small, blink and you miss it, and blurry. You barely even see for for half a second before he swipes the phone, so that was probably just the date they filmed that scene. There had already been phone dates in Daredevil S1 that didn't line up either.
Based on the wiki, the days of the week match that day as well. Personally, I'd have the first five episodes as April, then 6-13 following the timeline based on the phone date. I'd either ignore the What If...? date - I know that it's weird bit it's not impossible - or I'd place The Punisher during Avengers: Infinity War. I imagine that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episodes would be irritating like that, but it's an option. Up to you what you want to do.

Maybe something like:
April
The Punisher 2x01-2x05

May
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x14-5x18
The Punisher 2x06-2x13
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x19-5x22
Avengers: Infinity War

I have no idea how many days pass in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 to be honest.
Edit: The wiki would estimate 5x14-5x18 to be set between May 3-7 if 5x19-5x22 were May 17-18. As a result, I guess it would be prior to The Punisher 2x06-2x13 events?

By the way, following the Appendix point of divergence from Earth (just to support a few placements):
Earth-82111 - Diverged in 1943 during Project Rebirth.
Earth-21818 - Diverged in 1988 when the Ravagers abducted T'Challa.
Earth-51825 - Diverged in ???? when Hope joined S.H.I.E.L.D. Set in 2010 rather than 2011.
Earth-91233 - Diverged in 2016 when Strange and Christine remained a couple.
Earth-89521 - Diverged in 2018 when Janet unleashed a Quantum Virus.
Earth-32938 - Diverged in 2008 when Killmonger saved Tony from being captured.
Earth-72124 - Diverged in 965 when Odin returned Loki to Laufey.
Earth-29929 - Diverged in 2014, Ego is alive. Ultron uploaded himself into a vibranium body.

The Appendix says these, so if you put any stock into it then apparently Fury's Big Week is 2010 like the wiki but Iron Man is 2008 like this site.

Edit: Are we sure that Avengers: Infinity War is two weeks after Ant-Man and the Wasp? I think it's possible, even likely, that in Earth-89521, they took longer to rescue Janet, which is why she was infected with the Quantum Virus. We know she wasn't in the main reality during that film, so unless it was very sudden near the end, why not assume that the beginning of the Zombie episode is way after when Ant-Man and the Wasp takes place and they never rescued Janet during that film, and two weeks from the point in the Zombie timeline is when Infinity War would take place. That's what the wiki assumes.
 
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Based on the wiki, the days of the week match that day as well. Personally, I'd have the first five episodes as April, then 6-13 following the timeline based on the phone date. I'd either ignore the What If...? date - I know that it's weird bit it's not impossible - or I'd place The Punisher during Avengers: Infinity War. I imagine that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episodes would be irritating like that, but it's an option. Up to you what you want to do.

Maybe something like:
April
The Punisher 2x01-2x05

May
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x14-5x18
The Punisher 2x06-2x13
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x19-5x22
Avengers: Infinity War

I have no idea how many days pass in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 to be honest.


By the way, following the Appendix point of divergence from Earth (just to support a few placements):
Earth-82111 - Diverged in 1943 during Project Rebirth.
Earth-21818 - Diverged in 1988 when the Ravagers abducted T'Challa.
Earth-51825 - Diverged in ???? when Hope joined S.H.I.E.L.D. Set in 2010 rather than 2011.
Earth-91233 - Diverged in 2016 when Strange and Christine remained a couple.
Earth-89521 - Diverged in 2018 when Janet unleashed a Quantum Virus.
Earth-32938 - Diverged in 2008 when Killmonger saved Tony from being captured.
Earth-72124 - Diverged in 965 when Odin returned Loki to Laufey.
Earth-29929 - Diverged in 2014, Ego is alive. Ultron uploaded himself into a vibranium body.

The Appendix says these, so if you put any stock into it then apparently Fury's Big Week is 2010 like the wiki but Iron Man is 2008 like this site.
I prefer keeping the What If date because it is from a Marvel Studios project that was supervised by Feige, while the Netflix shows weren't. Although admittedly some of the What If episodes, like 1x02, did not line up with the movies' timeline, I choose to maintain the May 17th date because it was produced by Feige.

Since the producers on the Netflix shows did not know what the MCU plans were before Endgame (like Jessica Jones S3 hinting it's taking place in fall 2018, even though there are no indications of the Snap occuring), I prefer prioritizing the canon of the Disney Plus shows.
 
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Be careful folks. Don't get this board shut down.

NO. MORE. LEAKS.
I don't think we have to worry. It wasn't just any old leak they're going after, it was the leak of the entire script for Quantumania. If the leaks they shared there were fine before I'm 100% possitive Disney doesn't care about the miniscule leaks this place discusses. I mean they can't take any legal action for discussing things or sharing articles and posts. Let's not over react to this, we'll be fine and MSS will relaunch eventually.
 

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