Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 5)

[selfishmisery]

Now that Ryan Gosling has been announced as Ghost Rider, how will Marvel handle the fact that Johnny Blaze already exists in the MCU? Since he already appeared in Season 4 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Johnathon_Blaze_(Earth-199999)

Wait and see. I guess.

 

[Pro Bot]

Now that Ryan Gosling has been announced as Ghost Rider, how will Marvel handle the fact that Johnny Blaze already exists in the MCU? Since he already appeared in Season 4 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Johnathon_Blaze_(Earth-199999)

They can easily retcon that into just some dude.

 

[Regsta]

Yes, Agents of Shield's Ghost Rider that transformed Robbie Reyes was just random guy, Ryan Gosling is indeed Johnny Blaze or he could be Danny Ketsch, Johnny Blaze's long-lost half-brother, but I don't know if could work.

 

[selfishmisery]

They can easily retcon that into just some dude.

Yes, Agents of Shield's Ghost Rider that transformed Robbie Reyes was just random guy, Ryan Gosling is indeed Johnny Blaze or AoS' Ghost Rider could be Danny Ketsch, Johnny Blaze's long-lost half-brother, but I don't know if could work.

Or....Johnny didn't lose his powers.

The Spirit of Vengeance split into two beings.

 

[selfishmisery]

More than one Ghost Rider can exist in the same universe.

 

[selfishmisery]

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Johnny_Blaze

The wiki says he gave them up but he could have gotten them back somehow.
Again, wait and see. The "gave up his powers" thing wasn't said in-show either, it was the writers of AoS claiming that.

 

[iceman109]

Since David Jonsson is playing TChallas son as an adult, it makes me wonder when Black Panther 3 will be set

 

[selfishmisery]

Since David Jonsson is playing TChallas son as an adult, it makes me wonder when Black Panther 3 will be set

T'Challa's son was born in late-2018 or early-2019, having been conceived before his dad was blipped. He was about 5 years old in the 2nd film.
He'd be around 10 by Doomsday... I think Secret Wars has a 10 year time jump into Doom's Battleworld.

Then 20 year old T'Challa Jr gets temporally (not temporarily, TEMPORALly) displaced when all is reset and back to 2028/2029 post-Secret Wars.

That actor could pass for 20, despite being 32.

 

[Regsta]

So he basically will replace his younger self when MCU get reset post-Secret Wars.

 

[selfishmisery]

So he basically will replace his younger self when MCU get reset post-Secret Wars.

I think based on Doomsday rumors:

Spoiler

Doom literally kills all the kids of the heroes, T'Challa the 2nd, Love, and Steve's son. The T'Challa son in Secret Wars is one reborn and aged "as if he never died" but the child version is still dead post-Secret Wars.

 

[selfishmisery]

@Regsta Spoiler tag your response if you'll comment on my spoiler btw. That is some seemingly legit MAJOR SPOILER rumors I'm talking about.

 

[BabyBomber]

Ryan Gosling is a long-time coming but Shawn Levy…

 

[BabyBomber]

Yes, Agents of Shield's Ghost Rider that transformed Robbie Reyes was just random guy, Ryan Gosling is indeed Johnny Blaze or he could be Danny Ketsch, Johnny Blaze's long-lost half-brother, but I don't know if could work.

Yea it always seemed like AoS Spirit of Vengeance could only bond with one person at a time.

But if I had to guess, the Good Samaritan will be retconned into just some dude and Gosling Rider will be host to a completely separate Spirit of Vengeance that doesn't overlap with AoS at all

Robbie = Spirit from the Dark Dimension

Johnny = Spirit from Mephisto's Hell

 

[myusernameyes]

I mean they did say they'd be introducing an entirely new universe alongside the usual one so... Maybe this Ghost Rider is from that universe?

 

[Regsta]

I think Sacha Baron Cohen's Mephisto will definitely be in Ghost Rider movie.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

 

[Pro Bot]

The logo for the movie uses Daniel Ketch's design and they never confirmed which Rider he was going to play.

 

[myusernameyes]

Tom McComas Johnny Blaze, watching Ryan Gosling Danny Ketch doing a penance stare to his landlord from the distance: "Keep ridin, brother......... Keep ridin.........."

 

[Pro Bot]

Discussions in the MCU wiki discord got me thinking. IF... and that's only an IF, Secret Wars creates a whole new main MCU reality where the Fantastic Four and X-Men always existed... then that actually means that canoners won and there's absolutely nothing that can be done to disprove them.

Think about it... if the history is even slightly different at all, even if it appears to be pretty much the same for the movie characters, this means that they could introduce new versions of the Runaways, of the Inhuman Royal Family, of Quake, of Cloak and Dagger, and it wouldn't actually affect the canonicity of anything. The MCU versions are still canon, they just existed in the pre-Secret Wars Earth-199999, one without (speculative) reality warping to place certain characters and teams together.

 

[myusernameyes]

Again, I don't know if I've said this so I'm repeating if I did
It'd be kinda rad to have an X-Men movie show Mister Sinister watching from the shadows as Captain America was being unveiled