Slasherverse - Timeline

[Publius]

"Tobe": The opening sequence is the conversation between Jody and Toby seen in Phantasm. After failing to leave town twice and losing time both times, Tobe comes upon Reggie's overturned ice-cream truck, and he is run off the road avoiding Jody's Plymouth 'Cuda and sees the passing funeral coach from Tommy's funeral with Mike in the back. He arrives at Morningside Mortuary and Cemetery in time to see the funeral coach explode, and he hears a shotgun blast inside. He bumps into Reggie immediately after Reggie "closed his gate."

Notes:

• Coscarelli acknowledges that the character was named Toby in Phantasm, but that he has renamed him Tobe in honor of Tobe Hooper. Presumably he went by "Toby" before he left home, and adopted the "Tobe" later, with his hometown friends not quite adjusting to the change. Similarly, Kate Coscarelli identifies him as a medical student in The Novel, but he works at a financial services firm in Portland here. Perhaps he was originally pre-medicine but eventually switched to finance, and his hometown friends either don't know or don't' remember.
• Tobe explicitly identifies the house seen in Phantasm as "the Pearson brothers' two-story home" in the neighborhood of "Morningside Heights" and the town as "Morningside proper," in "the Township of Morningside."
• Tobe is "headed back to Portland today" by way of Highway 59. Along with Holtsville being explicitly located in Oregon in "He Was Home Alone," this more or less confirms that Phantasm is set in Oregon.
• Tobe earned a scholarship at OSU and spent four years in Corvallis, avoiding the draft. Jody "had not been so fortunate and served a tour of duty in the conflict overseas."
• Tobe witnesses the events at Morningside and flees back to Portland, confirming that they did happen in some way, despite very much not having happened (as seen at the end of Phantasm and the beginning of Phantasm II), unless they did (as Reggie remembers something that didn't happen in Phantasm III). So, there's that.

"Tobe" identifies the Pearson brothers living in "the Township of Morningside" (94-95), which seems to contradict Kate Coscarelli's Novel, which explicitly identifies the setting as "the town of China Grove" (13). The simplest solution is that the Pearsons live in Morningside, and the family bank is in the nearby China Grove. The somewhat larger town is probably used as a point of reference for people unfamiliar with this part of Oregon.

Jody's service overseas is strange. The Novel makes clear that Jody had "had been gone for two years" immediately after "the night he graduated from high school" (23), and that he "worked as a roadie, traveling with the big rock groups" and that George Norby, his family bank's manager, "worked miracles finding Jody and getting him back in time for the funeral (24). Since Phantasm establishes that Jody Pearson Sr. and Ann Pearson died in 1977, that means that Jody left in June or July 1975, just in time for the Rolling Stones' Tour of the Americas 75 (June 1 – August 8, 1975). Phantasm establishes that Mike is thirteen in 1979, and The Novel that Jody is "nine years older" (84), so Jody was born in 1957 and is old enough for Selective Service the same year he graduated high school, 1975. He must have been drafted between August 1975 and Norby managing to find him after his parents' deaths in 1977. But that doesn't work: the Paris Peace Accords were settled in January 1973, and with them, the draft was discontinued.

"The Rocky Road": Coscarelli says in his "Introduction to "The Rocky Road"" that "In writing The Rocky Road, I have attempted to depict the events in this character's life, which directly precede Phantasm III." Rocky specifically says "it's 1993" on the phone with her aunt. Loy forced Rocky's father, Rodney, out of his business "well over a year ago." Rocky and Tanesha leave the empty town of Chunchula to head to Holtsville, Oregon, where Tanesha hasn't been able to reach her family "for the past month."

• Rocky lived in Le Moyne but spent her childhood at her father Rodney's car shop, Eugene's Auto, in the township of Creola, outside Mobile. They had moved to a different neighborhood in Oakdale after three Klansmen murdered a man in their neighborhood in 1981.
• She enlisted in the Army and drove supply trucks in "the Second Armored Division Forward, Third Brigade Mobile" in Germany. The 3rd Brigade (Forward), 2nd Armored Division, operated as 2nd Armored Division (Forward) and was stationed at Garlstedt; it was reorganized as 2nd Armored Division in September 1991, and was inactivated in 1992. As a motor vehicle operator, Rocky may have been assigned to the 498th Support Battalion (Forward).
• Rocky hid her Lesbian relationship with fellow motor vehicle operator Althea because "the law of the land was "Don't' ask, don't tell."" Their relationship was interrupted by Al's deployment to Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Storm, where she was killed by a Scud strike on a barracks in Al Khobar. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (DADT) policy was signed into law as Public Law 103-160 in November 1993, and implemented effective February 28, 1994.
• Rocky's Auntie Velinda calls her "Quonesha." With her name tape "VERAY" being visible in the hotel scene in Phantasm III, we now know her full name is Quonesha Veray.
• Rocky meets Tanesha in a USO lounge. Tanesha "mustered out yesterday" and is headed to her hometown of Holtsville, Oregon.
• Chunchula, "a half-hour drive north from Mobile," has been emptied.

Coscarelli appears to have forgotten his timeline quite thoroughly. Phantasm III was released in 1994, but it was not set in 1994. Phantasm is set in the summer "two years" after 1977 (i.e., 1979), Phantasm II has Mike say he was at Morningside Psychiatric Clinic for "seven years" (i.e., 1986), and Phantasm III has Reggie say he has been restoring the Hemi 'cuda for "two years" while Mike was hospitalized (i.e., 1988) and tells Mike "your brother's been dead for ten years." The final sequence of "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy" is set in 1978, with Jody already dead.

Rocky's crypto-girlfriend Althea is explicitly said to have been killed by an Iraqi Scud when she was deployed to Saudi Arabia in support of Operation Desert Storm (January-February 1991) and Rocky tells her aunt the year is 1993. There's not any wiggle room there. At the same time, the story absolutely cannot be set in the 1990s. In Phantasm III, Rocky and Tanesha are clearly wearing the old olive-green Utility Uniform (OG-107s) discontinued in favor of the camouflage Battle Dress Uniform (BDUs) in 1989.

Of course, just because something didn't happen, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Jody was emphatically dead by 1979, and Reggie both closed a dimensional fork and was killed that summer—but Tobe saw Jody at Tommy's funeral and at Morningside, and Reggie didn't believe he'd done either of those things (despite remembering the former in Phantasm III). At least one version of Reggie took Mike to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 1987, apparently, when Mike was comatose in a hospital.

Maybe one version of Rocky and Tanesha were Gulf War era veterans and went to Holtsville in 1993 instead of 1988? Maybe this version of the women—who have not encountered anything overtly preter- or supernatural—is from the alternate timeline seen in Phantasm: RaVager? Or a timeline inhabited by a version of Reggie agreeing not to pursue The Tall Man in RaVager, in which it has more time to play its game unharried by the Ice Cream Man?

 

[Publius]

"Escape from New York": Chunk worked in New York for five years before the "bag plague" pandemic. He recovers from the plague after four weeks' illness, and his friends' deaths leaves him unable to be best man "at their wedding in the spring." He salvages a "2015 SRT Hellcat" from a used-car dealership in Marlboro.

Presumably Chunk's illness and recovery date to the same period as Mike's brief foray to the plague-emptied Los Angeles in OblIVion, but that is also undated. Reggie thinks of "2010 or 2015" as "early in the war" in Elkin, "Red Planet," when soldiers may be actively deployed against The Tall Man's forces, so perhaps we ought to think of 2015 as the tail end of (relative) normalcy before the "bag plague" broke civilization—in at least one timeline, I suppose.

On the other hand, the main body of Phantasm: RaVager appears to be in 1998: there's a gap between his return from the desert and his encounter with the carjacker in the opening scene (during which he acquires new weapons, including an M4 variant and a sword) and his encounter with Dawn at the site of her broken-down 1998 Toyota RAV4, and later in the film Reggie is told that he has been "on ice for a decade—ever since we blew him up in the desert," i.e., another version of 1998.

Conclusion:

I still need to work through Phantasm: SurVIval, but as of now the following is my working theory of the timeline:

• Ca 1862 Mike's first visit to Jebediah Morningside in Phantasm: OblIVion
• Ca 1862: "The Portal," and Mike's second visit to Jebediah Morningside in Phantasm: OblIVion
• No later than 1865: Mike's dream of the New Jebediah in the War of the Rebellion in Phantasm: OblIVion
• Ca 1860s or later: The New Jebediah's encounter with The Second Tall Man in "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• 1968: "Life and Death in the 'Nam"
• Ca 1975: The Tell Man acquires Green Hill Cemetery (Phantasm: The Novel)
• Late 1970s: "Behind the Mortuary Door"
• 1977: Death of Jody and Mike's parents (Phantasm)
• 1978: Death of Jody (Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead), and the final scene of "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• Ca 1979? Reggie and Mike's truck ride in Phantasm: OblIVion
• 1979: Phantasm, Phantasm: The Novel, the final scene of "Behind the Mortuary Door," and "Tobe"
• 1986: Phantasm II and the opening scene of Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead
• 1987: Reggie and Mike's visit to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in "Life and Death in the 'Nam"
• 1988: "He Was Home Alone"
• 1988: Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead and Phantasm: OblIVion, part of "Red Planet," part of "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy," and the opening scene of Phantasm: RaVager
• 1993: "The Rocky Road"
• No later than 1994: "Hell at S-MART"
• Ca 1998 "Pact with the Devil"
• Ca 1998 Phantasm: RaVager
• Ca 2010 or 2015: Part of "Red Planet"
• No earlier than 2015: "Escape from New York"
• 2059: The discovery of Moses's tomb in "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• "Many years" in the future: The final scene of "Red Planet"

Note that not all the entries in this timeline are in the same reality. RaVager is set in at least three, and "Tobe" does not take place in the same version of reality as Phantasm II. Unless it does.

 

[Publius]

I want to clarify that I'm not trying to hijack the thread with these lengthy posts. I want everyone to be able to see the details so you can make informed assessment about the challenging chronology of a notoriously ambiguous series (especially the extremely rare short stories from Further Excursions), especially since the parts of the series that need careful weighing aren't movies or episodes like most of the items in the overarching Slasherverse.

 

[BMarrow]

So, like, is this Canon?

 

[Gloryman]

Here's an odd choice for the Slasherverse, and I know it's highly unlikely anyone will support it, but I thought it should be mentioned, The Town that Dreaded Sundown. The craziest way this movie could connect is if the killer was Jason's dad, again unlikely. But what are your thoughts on this movie though?

 

[user 16960]

Here's an odd choice for the Slasherverse, and I know it's highly unlikely anyone will support it, but I thought it should be mentioned, The Town that Dreaded Sundown. The craziest way this movie could connect is if the killer was Jason's dad, again unlikely. But what are your thoughts on this movie though?

There's no evidence for that

 

[user 16960]

I did once read that Behind the Mask had a reference to Town that Dreaded Sundown but I wasn't able to figure out what it was talking about or if it was just making it up

 

[Publius]

Like Phiction, SurVIval is readily available, so I won't write a detailed summary. I do not recommend reading it unless you are a completionist with a high tolerance for very bad editing and even worse writing. It was apparently prepared as a screenplay and was converted to prose, and as a result is written in the present tense, with liberal, sometimes random use of the majuscule for emphasis and wanton use of exclamation points.

I have a lot of notes about the narrative and its implications for the biographies of the characters, but in the end most of the material I've put together is relevant to the chronology of the characters, not the timeline placement of the novel itself. I'll forego the ugly details and stick to the major checkpoints for dating SurVIval itself:

• Reggie has a flashback to an encounter he had with the spheres in Vietnam (35-39) which starts with him "listening to the World Series replay on American Forces Vietnam Network (AFVN) [sic]" (35). The Armed Forces Radio Service (AFRS) was redesignated the Armed Forces Vietnam Network on July 1, 1967.
• Sarah, the Fortune Teller's granddaughter, has been hiding in "the old, abandoned Mozumdar temple" in the San Bernardino Mountains "for almost 40 years now" (56). We don't know if she moved there immediately after fleeing Morningside in the summer of 1979, but it does suggest a lower limit of about 2018.
• Rocky tells Chunk "You are STILL healing from your burns! I'm still cutting up rags for your bandages!" (65) Large third-degree burns can take up to several years to heal, so it is probably no more than 2-3 years after the end of Phantasm: RaVager.
• Reggie recognizes that the Lady in Lavender is The Tall Man's agent, and "still had a few broken ribs from that last encounter they had at the mortuary months ago" (68).
• Sarah has a vision of herself "in the Ziggurat temple of Ereshkigal in 2029 B.C." (83).
• Sarah sets forth a dreadfully earnest and mostly incoherent 'infodump' (87-96), mixing in Sumerian mythology, Zecharia Sitchin's Planet X and Nibiru cycle, Nikola Tesla, and a curious version of the Radcliffe wave (discovered in 2020), plus general-purpose government conspiracy and the Betz mystery sphere. The Lady in Lavender is elevated to being a kind of distaff counterpart of The Tall Man, not merely another guise, and is identified with the Anunnaki queen Ninhursag, consort of Alalu the ruler of Nibiru, and Ereshkigal, Sumerian goddess of the underworld. The Tall Man is identified with Anu, father of Enlil, with Bay, chancellor of Ereshkigal, and with Nergal. The Old Testament and Gospels are vaguely claimed to validate all this. Tanesha (who is now Rocky's cousin whom she has known her whole life, which does not quite agree with them meeting for the first time and starting a Lesbian relationship in Coscarelli, "The Rocky Road"). Apparently the Anunnaki have been mining Earth's gold since "around 2000 B.C." so that they can repair the atmosphere of their homeworld Nibiru, which is the same thing as Kepler-186f, which Sarah correctly says was discovered by NASA in 2014 (89). The good news is that none of what she says is independently corroborated.
• Mike escapes from The Tall Man's mind torture machine and revisits Reggie's Ice Cream Shoppe in 1979 and sees "his younger self (at fourteen)" (118), and then re-experiences The Tall Man's extraction of the gold sphere from his head, sees past-Reggie follow The Tall Man through the Space Gate, and has his head wound healed by the Lady in Lavender (119-120). Mike wasn't captured, there's no explanation for how or when he got into the mind torture machine, and immediately after this sequence he is back in the bunker where he was before this interlude. Reggie also experiences a visit to the past at the same time – he sees both versions of Mike at his shop – so this is apparently some sort of simultaneous, instantaneous mind-trip during yet another attack by The Tall Man's forces.

It's not made clear, but some of the dialogue seems to suggest that maybe The Tall Man is no longer able to cross the dimensional fork after Chunk's attack on him on the Red Planet in RaVager, so the Lady in Lavender has been acting in his stead. She reports to him via a mirror. He is barely in the story, probably as an artifact of its origin as the script for a possible sequel film; The Tall Man's scant presence in the story was probably a concession to Angus Scrimm's failing health.

I don't believe that Gigi Bannister has read The Novel, Further Excursions, or Phiction—most notably, her backgrounds for Reggie and Rocky are strongly at variance with Coscarelli's—and at times her grasp of the films themselves seems shaky, which is a surprise, given that she has worked on some of the films herself. There are a number of differences between the versions of the characters in this story and the ones we've seen previously—e.g., Reggie was in Vietnam much earlier, Jody fought in Vietnam, Rocky is the apparently heterosexual daughter of a career soldier, Jebediah Morningside was influenced by Nikola Tesla—that I think it's reasonable to conclude that most or all of the novella is in a variant timeline.

The finale is remarkably stupid, even when compared with the rest of the story. This is genuinely the worst-written piece of published fiction I have ever read; it is on par with the very worst fan fiction. This is especially disappointing because I bought it as soon as it was released because I wanted to support the Bannisters. I am not well pleased by the prospect of having to read a subsequent volume, Phantasm 1850, mentioned as forthcoming in the closing pages.

Conclusions

We don't know when Reggie last encountered Lavender, so the broken ribs reference doesn't help date the story. Sarah specifically mentions that Kepler-186f was discovered in 2014, her residence in Camp Mozumdar for nearly 40 years sets about 2018 as the earliest, and the abrupt prominence of the Radcliffe wave suggests something in 2020 or later.

So, the revised timeline of Phantasm:

• 2029 AC: Sarah's vision of herself in the temple of Ereshkigal in Phantasm: SurVIval
• Ca 1862: Mike's first visit to Jebediah Morningside in Phantasm: OblIVion, "The Portal," and Mike's second visit to Jebediah Morningside in Phantasm: OblIVion
• No later than 1865: Mike's dream of the New Jebediah in the War of the Rebellion in Phantasm: OblIVion
• Ca 1860s or later: The New Jebediah's encounter with The Second Tall Man in "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• 1967: Reggie's flashback to Vietnam in Phantasm: SurVIval
• 1968: "Life and Death in the 'Nam"
• 1974: The Betz mystery sphere (Phantasm: SurVIval)
• Ca 1975: The Tell Man acquires Green Hill Cemetery (Phantasm: The Novel)
• Late 1970s: "Behind the Mortuary Door"
• 1977: Death of Jody and Mike's parents in China Grove (Phantasm)
• 1978: Death of Jody in China Grove (Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead), and the final scene of "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• Ca 1979? Reggie and Mike's truck ride in Phantasm: OblIVion
• 1979: Reggie and Mike's mind-trip to Reggie's Ice Cream Shoppe in Phantasm: SurVIval
• 1979: Phantasm, Phantasm: The Novel, the final scene of "Behind the Mortuary Door," and "Tobe"
• 1986: Phantasm II and the opening scene of Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead
• 1987: Reggie and Mike's visit to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in "Life and Death in the 'Nam"
• 1988: "He Was Home Alone"
• 1988: Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead and Phantasm: OblIVion, part of "Red Planet," part of "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy," Mike's mind-trip to Death Valley in Phantasm: SurVIval, and the opening scene of Phantasm: RaVager
• 1991: Death of Althea in Saudi Arabia ("The Rocky Road")
• 1993: "The Rocky Road"
• No later than 1994: "Hell at S-MART"
• Ca 1998: "Pact with the Devil"
• Ca 1998: Reggie's 'real,' 'demented,' and 'nightmare' sequences in Phantasm: RaVager
• Ca 2010 or 2015: Part of "Red Planet"
• 2014: Discovery of Kepler-186f (Phantasm: SurVIval)
• No earlier than 2015: "Escape from New York"
• No earlier than 2020: Phantasm: SurVIval
• 2059: The discovery of Moses's tomb on the Moon in "A Winged Sphere for a Mint Green Mummy"
• "Many years" in the future: The final scene of "Red Planet"

 

[stphylcccs]

Just found this in my local CeX, I've been searching for these cuts for a little under a year now

 

[stphylcccs]

1988 - Bride of Re-Animator

Just thought I'd mention this can be Bride of Re-Animator: Unrated. It doesn't change anything story-wise, just makes some shots a bit gorier

 

[BMarrow]

Weird fact. In the music video for Psycho by Puddle of Mudd, the band goes to the Bates Motel. The record label they were signed to at the time is owned by Universal, which also owns the rights to Psycho.

A guy dressed like Michael Myers also appears, and Halloween 2 is owned by Universal as well.


So, like, could this be considered Canon?

 

[Publius]

That is an interesting question. I would argue that as an official release by the rights-holder, yes, it should be considered canonical. But in what way?

The song and music video for Ray Parker Jr.'s "Ghostbusters" (Ivan Reitman, 1984) are canonical, but diegetically -- they are part of the Ghostbusters' advertising, along with their commercials and merchandise. The same could be the case here.

There has been rather a lot of ghoulish exploitation of tragic events in the Slasher Universe. I don't think it would be a stretch for the current owners of the Bates Motel to allow Puddle of Mudd to film on their property, or for the latter to have an actor dress as that well-known serial spree murderer with the distinctive look.

 

[Pro Bot]

Weird fact. In the music video for Psycho by Puddle of Mudd, the band goes to the Bates Motel. The record label they were signed to at the time is owned by Universal, which also owns the rights to Psycho.

A guy dressed like Michael Myers also appears, and Halloween 2 is owned by Universal as well.


So, like, could this be considered Canon?

Leatherface also shows up.

 

[BMarrow]

Leatherface also shows up.

I don't think Texas Chainsaw is owned by Universal like the others though

 

[BMarrow]

I don't think Texas Chainsaw is owned by Universal like the others though

Wait, nevermind. Focus Features is owned by Universal and they co produced the remake

 

[Publius]

Leatherface also shows up.

You stay classy, Slasher Universe Puddle of Mudd.

 

[BMarrow]

Apparently, the graves of several horror villains apear in adult cartoon Haunted Hotel

 

[user 16960]

Apparently, the graves of several horror villains apear in adult cartoon Haunted Hotel

I mean ... That's clearly just a silly reference. Tons of media do funny gravestone references like that it shouldn't be taken seriously lol

 

[stphylcccs]

Apparently, the graves of several horror villains appear in adult cartoon Haunted Hotel

Well, that's not where they actually are, so even if these are licensed it wouldn't count

 

[BMarrow]

Hopefully it actually gets made this time

 

[stphylcccs]

Hopefully it actually gets made this time

Pleeeeease include the Saw reference like the comic…

 

[stphylcccs]

Pleeeeease include the Saw reference like the comic…

Or at least not retcon the comic, so the reference is at least still there in-universe

 

[Publius]

I feel like this needs a different preposition.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

@Pro Bot there's finally a translation for the Hellraiser one-shot manga from 1988. Having just read it, it seems to be a heavily condensed adaptation of the movie (same with the one-shot manga for A Nightmare on Elm Street), with alot of things changed around and some characters adapted out. That, and the Cenobites are referred to as the "Mages".

https://mangadex.org/title/8b103142-064c-4846-b865-c839c2e72c1c/hellraiser

Overall, not really something that can be considered for inclusion, but still a smol worthwhile piece of media to keep in mind.

 

[Gloryman]

I'm sure the comics or novels know which Necronomicon Ex-Mortis is which, but in case there isn't a way to tell, here's my theory on it. The book that was destroyed in The Evil Dead and pages were used in Evil Dead II, this book was the book that sucked Ash inside. The book used in Evil Dead (2010) and Evil Dead Rise, that's the book the bit Ash. And the book the sent Ash home in Army of Darkness, and seen in Jason goes to Hell: The Final Friday the 13th, Pumpkinhead 2: Blood Wings and Ash vs Evil Dead TV series, that's the book that we tend to see a lot.

 

[stphylcccs]

I'm sure the comics or novels know which Necronomicon Ex-Mortis is which, but in case there isn't a way to tell, here's my theory on it. The book that was destroyed in The Evil Dead and pages were used in Evil Dead II, this book was the book that sucked Ash inside. The book used in Evil Dead (2010) and Evil Dead Rises, that's the book the bit Ash. And the book the sent Ash home in Army of Darkness, and seen in Jason goes to Hell: The Final Friday the 13th, Pumpkinhead 2: Blood Wings and Ash vs Evil Dead TV series, that's the book that we tend to see a lot.

The one in JGTH has to be available to Pamela in the '50s, so this doesn't work I don't think (unless you wanna put the first 3 Evil Dead movies in a different timeline to the rest of the Slasherverse)

 

[Gloryman]

The one in JGTH has to be available to Pamela in the '50s, so this doesn't work I don't think (unless you wanna put the first 3 Evil Dead movies in a different timeline to the rest of the Slasherverse)

I'm well aware that not everybody is kin on the Jason is a Deadite theory, which is the main reason why nobody will consider this as well. Just like the theory I've heard about Freddy Krueger being a rouge Cenobite. I guess where I'm going with this is the ideas New Line Cinema had to continue Freddy vs Jason, one idea for the original ending had the two getting sent to hell where Pinhead & The Cenobites were waiting for them. And of course, Freddy vs Jason vs The Evil Dead. And last, a reject "vs" movie, Jason Voorhees vs Michael Myers, Cartoon Planet made a joke about that. Don't forget, the director of JGTH has confirmed Pamela Voorhees used the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis to bring Jason back to life.

 

[stphylcccs]

I'm well aware that not everybody is kin on the Jason is a Deadite theory, which is the main reason why nobody will consider this as well. Just like the theory I've heard about Freddy Krueger being a rouge Cenobite. I guess where I'm going with this is the ideas New Line Cinema had to continue Freddy vs Jason, one idea for the original ending had the two getting sent to hell where Pinhead & The Cenobites were waiting for them. And of course, Freddy vs Jason vs The Evil Dead. And last, a reject "vs" movie, Jason Voorhees vs Michael Myers, Cartoon Planet made a joke about that. Don't forget, the director of JGTH as confirmed Pamela Voorhees used the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis to bring Jason back to life.

I'm a little confused by what you've said here. You've mentioned that Jason being a Deadite is just a theory, then also (correctly) stated the director of JGTH stated Pamela uses the Necronomicon to revive Jason? Unless I'm just stupid and the Ex-Mortis one is a specific Necronomicon and not just the full name for any of them. Though, I want to mention that Jason being a Deadite is confirmed by the director, not just that he was revived by the Necronomicon

 

[Gloryman]

I'm a little confused by what you've said here. You've mentioned that Jason being a Deadite is just a theory, then also (correctly) stated the director of JGTH stated Pamela uses the Necronomicon to revive Jason? Unless I'm just stupid and the Ex-Mortis one is a specific Necronomicon and not just the full name for any of them. Though, I want to mention that Jason being a Deadite is confirmed by the director, not just that he was revived by the Necronomicon

A minor mistake, but isn't it possible the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis can do other thing besides Deadites and Time Portals, I mean Ash vs The Evil Dead showed us that.

 

[stphylcccs]

A minor mistake, but isn't it possible the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis can do other thing besides Deadite and Time Portals, I mean Ash vs The Evil Dead showed us that.

Yeah I guess. The only issue with this is that the director specifically stated Jason's a Deadite