Stephen King Multiverse Headcanon Multiverse Timelines by Iceman109

[iceman109]

Why would the recent Pet Semetary movies be canon if they are remakes?

 

[Pro Bot]

I haven't read any of the books so I'm just connecting Stephen king adaptations that have crossovers or connections between them. Starting with the IT franchise and working my way through what works and what doesn't


All Confirmed Connected so far:

IT: Welcome to Derry S03 (1908)
IT: Welcome to Derry S02 (1935)
IT: Welcome to Derry S01 (1962)
Christine (1978)
(car toy based on the film appears in the dark tower)
The Shining (1980)
(Dan appears in derry s01 and overlook hotel pic appears in the dark tower)
IT (1989)
IT: Chapter Two (2016)
The Dark Tower (2017)
(Pennywise sign appears in mid world in the dark tower)
Doctor Sleep (2019)


Possibly connected:
The Shawshank Redemption (1947-1966)?
(Prison bus appears in derry s01 trailer waiting for context and clarification)
Pet Sematary: Bloodlines (1969)?
The Mist (2007)? (Mist appears in derry s01 trailer)
Castle Rock S01 (2018-2019)? (Shawshank prison appears many times)
Pet Sematary (2019)?
Castle Rock S02 (2019)?

I'm replying to this.

 

[Pro Bot]

Doesn't this prove that Cujo is set in 1981?

 

[Pro Bot]

I don't think that's Carrie in the third part, by the way. I think it's a separate thing but with a similar situation.

 

[Pro Bot]

Do you guys think Mr Mercedes and The Outsider should be in the same universe even though Holly Gibney is white in Mr Mercedes while in The Outsider she's black?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Gibney

Richard Price, the developer and showrunner of The Outsider, reworked the character to some extent, without keeping the continuity with the Mr. Mercedes TV series or Bill Hodges novels (Price did not watch the series or read the novels), and asked King to rename the character, but he insisted on keeping the name Holly Gibney.

Maybe they're two separate people with the same name.

 

[Pro Bot]

Apparently the apocalyptic future in 11.22.63 references The Stand, so I guess that mini-series is canon to the main timeline... wait, maybe that series explains the continuity errors with Cujo? Cujo was affected by the time travel and became the Castle Rock 1981 version, where the kiddo died too perhaps? Then the newer Pet Semetary films could fit in (though I don't think they have any right to, so...).

I meant that The Stand takes place in an alternate but connected timeline created as a consequence of saving JFK. Sorry, I should have clarified. Technically it should be watched after or just before the last episode of 11.22.63 in order to fit the timeline.

 

[Pro Bot]

Apparently Christine in 11.22.63 is literally the same car from Christine. 11.22.63 should definitely be canon.

According to Carpenter, the production was able to use one of the few surviving Plymouths seen in the film. "They had 14 cars and smashed 13 of them. This is the last remaining Christine."

Randall Flagg Timeline
1963 - 11.22.63 1x08
1994 - The Stand 1x01-1x04
2017 - The Dark Tower

 

[iceman109]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Gibney
Maybe they're two separate people with the same name.

Either that they are two separate people or it's a Catwoman of Earth 66/Harvey Dent of Earth 89 situation

 

[Pro Bot]

Doesn't this prove that Cujo is set in 1981?

Either Cujo is in 1981 or there's a Saint Bernard dog owned by a Cambers family called Cujo in both 1981 and 1985. It's not impossible, I guess...

 

[iceman109]

Either Cujo is in 1981 or there's a Saint Bernard dog owned by a Cambers family called Cujo in both 1981 and 1985. It's not impossible, I guess...

What would the timeline look like for Cujo then?

 

[Pro Bot]

Version 1:
1981 - Cat's Eye
1981 - Cujo
1981 - Castle Rock: Friday the 13th (The Dog) [slightly contradicts the movie]

Version 2:
1981 - Castle Rock: Friday the 13th (The Dog) [would be about a different Saint Bernard dog named Cujo owned by a Chambers family?)
1985 - Cat's Eye
1985 - Cujo

 

[Pro Bot]

This newspaper in Castle Rock also contradicts the Cujo movie, unfortunately. At least it's easy to ignore it.

There's three victims in the movie, not four like here and in the book. Tad Trenton is said to have died here but he lived in the film version.

 

[iceman109]

Unless there's two Chambers families

 

[Pro Bot]

Two families, two Tads, two Cujos, two Saint Bernards?

 

[Pro Bot]

You gotta do what you gotta do, I guess.

 

[iceman109]

Sort of like how there's multiple Draculas and John Harkers in the Universal Monsters Universe

 

[Pro Bot]

Oh, another thing, the Cujo book released in 1981 but took place in 1980 (from my understanding). That short video is a deviation from that since it explicitly places itself in 1981.

 

[FruityWho50]

Well if the cujo reference in castle rock references events closer to the book than the film adaptation that wouldn't make it canon would it?

 

[FruityWho50]

Ok so with that information I've updated my list

All Confirmed Connected:
IT: Welcome to Derry S03 (1908) TBA
IT: Welcome to Derry S02 (1935) TBA

IT: Welcome to Derry S01 (1962)
The Shawshank Redemption (1947-1966)
Salem's Lot (2024) (1975)
Christine (1978)
The Shining (1979)
IT (2017) (1989)
IT: Chapter Two (2016)
The Dark Tower (2017)
Castle Rock S01 (2018-2019)
Castle Rock S02 (2019)
Doctor Sleep (2019)


Possibly connected:

The Mist (2007)?



Also connected not sure if part of main timeline:

1995: Dolores Claiborne
2009: Gerald's Game

Pet Sematary: Bloodlines (1969)
Pet Sematary (2019)

 

[Pro Bot]

@FruityWho50

In Cat's Eye, both Cujo and Christine appear. Christine has a new licence plate, so maybe that's why the old one was seen in IT Chapter Two.

The problem with Cujo is that it is connected to Cat's Eye which is connected to Christine.

Apparently Christine in 11.22.63 is literally the same car from Christine. 11.22.63 should definitely be canon.


Randall Flagg Timeline
1963 - 11.22.63 1x08
1994 - The Stand 1x01-1x04
2017 - The Dark Tower

By literally the same car, I mean they retrieved the exact same car used in the film for it. It was the last remaining car that wasn't destroyed.


Also, why is no one including the Castle Rock shorts on their lists???

 

[Pro Bot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_TeagueCat's Eye is also by the same director as Cujo.

 

[Pro Bot]

I think the problem is Castle Rock is connected to Christine, which is connected to Cat's Eye, which is connected to Cujo, but Castle Rock actually doesn't connect to Cujo.

Cujo has to be connected despite the fact that it isn't connected.

 

[Pro Bot]

The actress for Annie Wilkes in Castle Rock implied that her version is the younger incarnation of the movie character despite that movie releasing in 1990 and being set at that time - seemingly it was retconned. I believe that one of the protagonist's books from exclusively the movie appears in season 2, but honestly I'm not sure if I'm misremembering the details. It had a different cover, anyway.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/feature...k-season-2-annie-wilkes-interview-1203350357/

Am I the only one who thinks that Annie Wilkes being said to be the younger version of the film character makes the film canon? I mean, the fictional Misery's Love book comes exclusively from the film adaptation and it's in Castle Rock.
https://stephenking.fandom.com/wiki/Misery_Chastain

Yes, this means Misery is set in the future... however, what issues does that actually cause continuity-wise? I've seen the movie and I don't think it's particularly important to set it in 1990. Paul uses a typewriter instead of a computer, yes, but maybe he's old-fashioned or it makes him be more careful with his writings.

 

[Pro Bot]

Gerald's Game and Dolores Claiborne both have flashbacks that occur during an eclipse where bad things happened concurrently.
In Dolores Claiborne, it occured in 1975. Present day events occur in 1995.
The year is not given in Gerald's Game, but it has to be 1975. That also puts the present day events of that same film in 2009. Carla Gugino was 46, her child self during the year of the eclipse was 12 - so 46 - 12 = 34 + 1975 = 2009.

@iceman109
Have you considered adding Gerald's Game like this? It's also connected to Flanagan's Hush movie from 2016 due to the fictional Midnight Mass book, which I guess means that Flanagan's real life Midnight Mass tv series is an in-universe adaptation of the in-universe Midnight Mass book, too.

Flanagan also made adaptations of King's Doctor Sleep and The Life of Chuck stories.

 

[selfishmisery]

@iceman109
Have you considered adding Gerald's Game like this? It's also connected to Flanagan's Hush movie from 2016 due to the fictional Midnight Mass book, which I guess means that Flanagan's real life Midnight Mass tv series is an in-universe adaptation of the in-universe Midnight Mass book, too.

Flanagan also made adaptations of King's Doctor Sleep and The Life of Chuck stories.

It helps too that we'll probably never get a Dolores Claiborne remake because of how well received the film was that I'm sure King wouldn't see any need to redo it on film again.

 

[Pro Bot]

It helps too that we'll probably never get a Dolores Claiborne remake because of how well received the film was that I'm sure King wouldn't see any need to redo it on film again.

Yep. It's harder when we have multiple adaptations like Pet Semetary. It feels like the new one makes more sense but the old one actually fits better.

 

[iceman109]

Am I the only one who thinks that Annie Wilkes being said to be the younger version of the film character makes the film canon? I mean, the fictional Misery's Love book comes exclusively from the film adaptation and it's in Castle Rock.
https://stephenking.fandom.com/wiki/Misery_Chastain

Yes, this means Misery is set in the future... however, what issues does that actually cause continuity-wise? I've seen the movie and I don't think it's particularly important to set it in 1990. Paul uses a typewriter instead of a computer, yes, but maybe he's old-fashioned or it makes him be more careful with his writings.

What year should Misery be set in then?

 

[Pro Bot]

What year should Misery be set in then?

Weeeeell... "20??"...
Probably 2030s to 2040s.

 

[iceman109]

Annie Wilkes also appears in the Monkey

 

[Pro Bot]

Annie Wilkes also appears in the Monkey

A character with the same name, anyway. She can't exactly go on to become the iconic villain.