The Next 007 Game: News/Rumours/Speculation

What is your favourite Bond game?

  • GoldenEye 64

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Tomorrow Never Dies (PSOne)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The World is Not Enough (N64)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The World is Not Enough (PSOne)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Agent under Fire (PS2 and Xbox)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • NightFire (PS2 and Xbox)

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • Everything or Nothing (PS2 and Xbox)

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • GoldenEye: Rogue Agent (PS2 and Xbox)

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • From Russia With Love

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bond games are always stoopid.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14

Gothamite

Well-Known Member
First of all, here's another reason to like Daniel Craig.

Everyone has at least one of the Bond games that have been released over the years. Some have been magically, golden, delicious games that have shown that franchise-games can be magnificent (GoldenEye), some sucked to the high heavens but everyone still bought them (GoldenEye 2: Rogue Agent), some of them were horribly over-rated (NightFire) and some of them sickeningly under-rated (Everything or Nothing).

The word is that Activision acquired the licence following EA's From Russia With Love (fairly decent, but not a patch on Everything or Nothing, its similar predecessor). Latest reports indicate that Treyarch will be involved in the game's development. Shaping out to be a very Spidey-like game, wouldn't you say?

What do you think the direction for the game should be? Personally, I hope they continue with the third-person approach. I think first-person Bond games are sacrilege, because Bond does so much more than just shoot people in the films (in fact, if you examine them, he usually only directly kills a handful of people with a gun, at the very most). To me, a first-person shooter Bond game is like a first-person shooter Indiana Jones game or a FPS Batman game. You're missing out on combat, proper stealth as well as being able to see the character. It feels a lot more real to me when I can actually see Pierce Brosnan swaggering around like the Irish legend he is, as opposed to just looking at his hand holding a gun.

Daniel Craig is going to be Bond's likeness (yippee!), he's probably going to do a voiceover and the game is suspected to be based on Bond 22. My only reservations with all of this is that if they go for the ultra-realistic approach they went with Casino Royale, you're losing out an all of the gizmos and gadget-fueled ridiculousness that made the other games so much fun. They're going to have to figure out a new way to make this Bond games unique. My advice is to focus on Daniel Craig's particular interpretation of the character as a dark, seedy, enforcer and structure a combat system on that. I also think there should be a lot of emphasis on stealth as well. There needs to be vehicle levels, obviously, so maybe they could be a bit more like GTA, with a drive-by style option for gunning bad guys in the opposite car.

Vote for your favourite 007 game (to make things easier, I'm going to leave out the Game Boy games and the games that came before GoldenEye) and continue the discussion. And to anyone who hasn't already played it, go out and buy Everything Or Nothing. NOW.
 

Planet-man

Well-Known Member
I've only played GoldenEye and a moderate amount of Agent Under Fire.

I completely agree with Gothamite that it should be a 3rd-person action-adventure game.
 

Victor Von Doom

Fist of teh Internets.
Everything Or Nothing FTW!

While the controls were fundamentally solid, there were a few things to be tweaked. But overall the game was one of the best.

They should definitley stick with the third person POV. And keeping with the grittier/realistic Bond, do away with a lot of the gadgets. There's so many aspects to Bond that you can't just say that they should make it like Splinter Cell. Or a run and gun like Devil May Cry or Max Payne. Or even an acrobatic platformer like Prince of Persia.

It's such a complex game to make.
 

SSJmole

Face-Punching As Foreign Policy
Everything Or Nothing FTW!

While the controls were fundamentally solid, there were a few things to be tweaked. But overall the game was one of the best.

They should definitley stick with the third person POV. And keeping with the grittier/realistic Bond, do away with a lot of the gadgets. There's so many aspects to Bond that you can't just say that they should make it like Splinter Cell. Or a run and gun like Devil May Cry or Max Payne. Or even an acrobatic platformer like Prince of Persia.

It's such a complex game to make.



How about making it like Just Cause on 360?
 

SSJmole

Face-Punching As Foreign Policy
That Mexican James Bond game?

That game was atrocious.

Not sure if it was Mexican.


but the game = freeroam , and you can do crazy stuff like jump out of a car going off a cliff and come down with a parachute. Seems Perfect for James bond if they improve a few things
 

Random

Didn't **** any of those *****es
I say Goldeneye cause it is a great multiplayer game that anyone could get into, its the only game that all my siblings would play with a fair amount of skills
 

Lynx

Well-Known Member
I've played most of them.

Goldeneye gets my vote. It's a classic FPS that still holds up well today and, more importantly, paved the way for console FPS games.

However, special mention definitely goes to Everything or Nothing. As fun as Goldeneye was, it didn't provide a good James Bond experience. James Bond doesn't run and gun (Usually). This was further proven when Rare made Goldeneye's spiritual successor, Perfect Dark. EoN, however, is the definitive Bond experience.

Hopefully, this new game will live up to the standards set by Goldeneye and EoN.
 

Gothamite

Well-Known Member
but the game = freeroam

I love all of the superhero freeroam games, but James Bond doesn't need to be and actually shouldn't be freeroam. Bond needs to be a game without a dull moment in it, from start to finish. That's what Everything or Nothing was and it was arguably the second best gaming experience I've ever had (next to San Andreas). James Bond needs to feel like a blockbuster movie, it doesn't need to feel like an ongoing adventure where you can 'go anywhere and do anything', because that's not what you want to do as Bond.

Even in a realistic Bond game, there needs to be outrageous stunts (the one thing they did keep in Casino Royale).
Everything Or Nothing had this utterly, flawlessly perfect motorcycle level where, if you had your wits about you, felt so much like Bond it was just plain silly. And it was all thanks to the insane stunts you could pull off, if you were alert enough. Of course, if you cocked up and missed a jump or something, you just looked like a jerk.

Nice to see that so many people like EoN, even if GoldenEye got the most votes.
 
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Lynx

Well-Known Member
Nice to see that so many people like EoN, even if GoldenEye got the most votes.

GoldenEye got the most votes because it's both a classic and a milestone game. EoN was a sleeper hit. Most people had gotten burned on one of the previous games (The terrible Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough games and the mediocre Agent Under Fire and Nightfire games) and didn't give EoN the chance it deserved.
 

SSJmole

Face-Punching As Foreign Policy
GoldenEye got the most votes because it's both a classic and a milestone game. EoN was a sleeper hit. Most people had gotten burned on one of the previous games (The terrible Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough games and the mediocre Agent Under Fire and Nightfire games) and didn't give EoN the chance it deserved.

like me , I never played EoN due to every game since goldeneye disapointing I gave up on all bond games. I did try the new goldeneye one due to it been goldeneye but was disappointed with that too
 

Gothamite

Well-Known Member
GoldenEye got the most votes because it's both a classic and a milestone game. EoN was a sleeper hit. Most people had gotten burned on one of the previous games (The terrible Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough games and the mediocre Agent Under Fire and Nightfire games) and didn't give EoN the chance it deserved.

Nightfire (at least amongst my generation, anyway) is the most over-rated game in the history of video games.
 

Lynx

Well-Known Member
like me , I never played EoN due to every game since goldeneye disapointing I gave up on all bond games. I did try the new goldeneye one due to it been goldeneye but was disappointed with that too

Don't get me started on GoldenEye: Rogue Agent. Never have I been so disappointed in a video game than with that piece of ****.
 

Gothamite

Well-Known Member
Don't get me started on GoldenEye: Rogue Agent. Never have I been so disappointed in a video game than with that piece of ****.

I can never understand people like this. It was made by different developers and it was obvious that they were just trying to milk off the original games' success and probably didn't have a clue as to what they were doing. You couldn't even play as Bond!
 

marvelman

Well-Known Member
i dont understand how nightfire was overrated. most publications i saw gave it about a 7/10, which is about what i'd give it...

also, i enjoyed agent under fire, and its gadgetry.
 
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SSJmole

Face-Punching As Foreign Policy
I can never understand people like this. It was made by different developers and it was obvious that they were just trying to milk off the original games' success and probably didn't have a clue as to what they were doing. You couldn't even play as Bond!

Yeah it might have but I know I still expected it to be good it was goldeneye for god's sake
 

Gothamite

Well-Known Member
Yeah it might have but I know I still expected it to be good it was goldeneye for god's sake

That's the rationale any and every overly-naive fanboy uses when he/she buys a licensed game without first reading a review. Just because it's based on a kickass franchise doesn't mean it's automatically going to be kickass.
 

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