The Ultimate Batman game

[Zombipanda]

You guys should start a petition to get me supervising a Batman game.... or wresting control of the Batman monthly from Morrison.

It would work.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Please note that I am extremely displease that you al lare not shouting my praises right now for the most brilliant of game ideas.

I EVEN LAID OUT THE CONTROL FUNCTIONS FOR YOU ****ERS!

 

[Zombipanda]

Please note that I am extremely displease that you al lare not shouting my praises right now for the most brilliant of game ideas.

I EVEN LAID OUT THE CONTROL FUNCTIONS FOR YOU ****ERS!

Dude. It's because my ideas were better.

My ideas are always better....



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How come no one's responding to Ultimate 2099? It's very good.

 

[DGspider-fan]

Please note that I am extremely displease that you al lare not shouting my praises right now for the most brilliant of game ideas.

I EVEN LAID OUT THE CONTROL FUNCTIONS FOR YOU ****ERS!

You're ideas are great! That is why I posted this.

sooo, when's this coming out?

I hope you feel a little better, please don't cry anymore. I hate it when you cry. :lol:

Dude. It's because my ideas were better.

You had some good ones too.

 

[Zombipanda]

You had some good ones too.

I had great ones. I had the best. Because they are moon ideas, thus they are from the moon. I am a moon man.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Ugh Mole. Just ugh. And not just for the Lego thing.




So after thinking about it and fleshing out some ideas.....here's my game.




Story
The game would roughly follow Jeph Loeb's "Hush" storyline. Now obviously this is not the greatest Batman story....but since I'm not a huge Batman fan....I only know of a few. But---the one thing Hush has going for it is the fact that Loeb threw in damn near every villain in Batman's rogue gallery. So since they're already in the story....there's no real need to try and come up with some contribed reason for Poison Ivy and Croc to be connected.

Now each villain would have sub-missions/stories crafted by Paul Dini, so that you have a reason to track down each villain. Much like the Spiderman 3 game where you had to run down some gang members in order to find a certain villain. Need to find out Penguin is at? Track down some of his goons and foil their robbery for him and plug them for info. Stuff like that.

And of course as you progress from chapter to chapter...you'd see the Batsignal in the sky and you'd have to meet with Gordon for tips and info.



Gameplay

• Free Roam

**Please note that all controller functions are based on the Playstation controller set-up**​

Duh. Despite my dislike for sandbox games.....linear games are the way of the future.

You'd be able to travel thru the city from top to bottom much like Hulk and Spiderman games. The rooftop-to-rooftop aspect of the game would allow you to go on foot...or temporary swinging via zipcords. You press a single button (R2) and a zip line similar to the zip line in Spiderman would grapple onto the nearest object and allow you to "zip" across the sky. If you hold the attack button (square) and the zip button you'd be able to do an extended swing---cape open and flowing and all. Now to prevent people from just swinging everywhere like Spiderman....there'd be a delay feature that would keep you from repeated doing so. Holding the jump button (X) while falling would allow you to open he cape and glide for a bit. Not a lot...but just enough to get the proper effect. Holding the grab/dodge button (O) while falling would allow you to grab onto the nearest balcony, ledge, lightpost, etc and pull yourself up.

• Vehicle

Vehicle use woud feel similar to GTA control schemes. Using the directional pad you'd press UP to call the Batwing to you....and press DOWN to call the Batmobile. Now obviously they're not gonna show up instantly (I'm think 15-30 seconds from the time you signal for it). To access the Batwing you'd enter MANUAL AIM (R3) and then press the zip button. This move would seem very similar to Spiderman1-The Movie game. Fire the zip line and you'd pull yourself into the Batwing automatically. Press triangle to enter/exit vehicles. Bonus---you can jump out the Batwing at any time you please and parachute to the ground. But with a good amount of realism. You can't jump out high above the city and float down like some kinda angel. You freefall......and then fire out a zip line and float to safety. The car is self-explantory. Walk up to it and get in and drive.

• Combat

Combat would be similar to Devil May Cry3 and Spiderman 2. Press L1 to lock onto villain (scroll thru targets with R3). Square to punch...Triangle to kick...O to dodge...X to jump. You get the idea. The combo system would be similar to God of War---you could get by just by mashing buttons. But then you'd see the same combo over and over again. Skilled players who learn the actual combos will be privy to sweetness.

As far as weapons go....I wanna avoid the omnipotent belt. He'd have what he'd need.....but in combat I'd like to stick with just regular batarangs, exploding batarangs and smoke grenades. Cycle thru the weapons with L2 and then fire with R1.

Another thing I'd like to take advantage of his Batman's agility. Much like Devil May Cry...hold the dodge button (O) while running adjacent to the wall and watch Batman take a couple steps on it or jump from it. Nothing too drastic and Matrix-y....but just enough to get you outta a corner when you're surrounded by thugs.



Random Stuff
Voice acting would be from the Timmverse cast. Anything else will just not do.

The beginning tutorial woud be in Bruce Wayne falshback format.

• Comabt Tutorial---Flashback to Bruce training in dojo and gi.
• Swinging Tutorial---Swing around in Batcave dressed in black ninja/sports gear. No costume. Or if costume----no cape/cowl.
• Vehicle Training---Flying Into Batcave.....and then getting into car to go to Gotham.
• The first Initial Level would be a bank robbery in progress and an overall tutorial review where you use all that you just covered.
• This of course would all be narrated by Alfred.....or maybe Oracle. Haven't decided.

No co-op...but there would be computerized team-ups and cameos and Batfamily.

Difficulty levels would be named after Batman nicknames:

• Easy - Batman
• Normal - Dark Knight
• Hard - World's Greatest Detective (this setting requires you to find extra hidden clues thru the game in order to advance to the next mission)

In order to pass missions---it won't just be a beat 'em up game. You'll have to find clues in order to find locations, etc.

There's also be a fear meter worked into the game somehow....I'm just not sure of specifics yet.



Bonuses

• Costumes

Different costumes would be unlocked at the end of the game depending on the difficulty setting the game was beat in. Beat it on easy and all you get is the option to choose between blue and black cape/cowl. Beat it on normal and you get that option....as well as Batman Begins style costume. Beat it on hard and you get Long Halloween style costume as well as the bonus Batman Beyond suit.

• Vehicles

Same as above. Movie versions...cartoon (Timm as well as new) versions...comic versions. ETc.

• Characters

Beat the game on hard and you get to play thru the free roam portion as any member of the Bat Family. Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl. These guys can't use the Batwing....but the do get to call their own cycles.





Anyways....that's just my thoughts and ideas. I could come up with more if I had more time and my fingers weren't tired.

The more I think of this.....the more angry I am that its not being made.

**** I'm awesome.

 

[SSJmole]

The more I think of this.....the more angry I am that its not being made.

**** I'm awesome.

but did you really need the "Ugh Mole. Just ugh. And not just for the Lego thing." bumped? :lol:

 

[Langsta]

If they make the Ultimate Batman game, there should be no Robin or Nightwing or Batgirl (they make things too colorful....I like my Batman dark), and Batman's costume should be sort of like his Batman Begins or TDK costume. Hell, if it's the definitive Bat-game, then make the first part an origin story or something.

 

[Planet-man]

If they make the Ultimate Batman game, there should be no Robin or Nightwing or Batgirl (they make things too colorful....I like my Batman dark), and Batman's costume should be sort of like his Batman Begins or TDK costume.

Completely, completely, completely agree.

The only thing is, I think in terms of costume, you should be able to choose from two or three right off the bat(no pun intended:wink. There are a lot of people who think the comic costume is definitive, and a lot more like us that think the Begins costume is. This way everybody's happy.

 

[Langsta]

I like Jim Lee's Batman, but I don't really like the light gray in that costume. I like the completely black Batman. The Batman who's totally committed to being black. Gray Batman isn't sure whether or not he wants to go full black or not, because as everyone knows, once you go black, you don't go back. So Gray Batman is like, "Well, I don't really know if I wanna go full black or not, so I'm just gonna wear some gray and show off my light side." Black Batman, on the other hand, has completely crossed over to the dark side and, as we all know, the dark side is way more badass.

Also, if Robin is at all involved in the game, just have it as a small cameo where you grab Robin by the cape and throw him into a cage of man-eating rats, a la All-Star Batman. Robin is subsequently eaten alive and never to be seen again throughout the rest of the game.

Do, however, include the Adam West costume as an option. This costume comes with the special weapon skill, Bat-Repellant. Also include the bonus nipple-equipped batsuit.

 

[Planet-man]

I like Jim Lee's Batman, but I don't really like the light gray in that costume. I like the completely black Batman. The Batman who's totally committed to being black. Gray Batman isn't sure whether or not he wants to go full black or not, because as everyone knows, once you go black, you don't go back. So Gray Batman is like, "Well, I don't really know if I wanna go full black or not, so I'm just gonna wear some gray and show off my light side." Black Batman, on the other hand, has completely crossed over to the dark side and, as we all know, the dark side is way more badass.

Also, if Robin is at all involved in the game, just have it as a small cameo where you grab Robin by the cape and throw him into a cage of man-eating rats, a la All-Star Batman. Robin is subsequently eaten alive and never to be seen again throughout the rest of the game.

:shock:

The new guy rocks.

 

[Langsta]

....Moi?

 

[Planet-man]

Twoi.

 

[Langsta]

Touche. That's the only other French word I know.

 

[Gothamite]

I like Jim Lee's Batman, but I don't really like the light gray in that costume. I like the completely black Batman. The Batman who's totally committed to being black. Gray Batman isn't sure whether or not he wants to go full black or not, because as everyone knows, once you go black, you don't go back. So Gray Batman is like, "Well, I don't really know if I wanna go full black or not, so I'm just gonna wear some gray and show off my light side." Black Batman, on the other hand, has completely crossed over to the dark side and, as we all know, the dark side is way more badass.

Also, if Robin is at all involved in the game, just have it as a small cameo where you grab Robin by the cape and throw him into a cage of man-eating rats, a la All-Star Batman. Robin is subsequently eaten alive and never to be seen again throughout the rest of the game.

Do, however, include the Adam West costume as an option. This costume comes with the special weapon skill, Bat-Repellant. Also include the bonus nipple-equipped batsuit.

...

I love you...

Seriously though, I'm fine playing with the gray suit, as long as I have the all-black suit from Batman Begins (if the suits from the other movies were included as well, this game would indeed be definitive) to look forward to at the end. I am in the Pro-Black camp where Batman's costume is concerned, because it's more realistic, but you can't use the realism argument where the comic books are concerned, because Batman fights extraordinary villains and is part of a 'Justice League' full of fantastic characters. That said, it'd be ****-cool to see him adopt the black suit one day...

 

[bluebeast]

I'd be fine if Robin and Nightwing would show up. Whether it was in cut scenes or just as helpers in some missions they would be fine.

 

[Gothamite]

I'd be fine if Robin and Nightwing would show up. Whether it was in cut scenes or just as helpers in some missions they would be fine.

But...why?

This is my whole problem with the sidekicks argument. Nobody can give one good solid reason as to why these elements should still be a part of the Batman legend. The one reason I keep hearing, time and time again is that,

"Batman has always had a Robin and no matter how much time he spends fighting crime alone, Robin should always show up at some point."

That's not a reason, that's nostalgic horse****.

 

[bluebeast]

But...why?

This is my whole problem with the sidekicks argument. Nobody can give one good solid reason as to why these elements should still be a part of the Batman legend. The one reason I keep hearing, time and time again is that,

"Batman has always had a Robin and no matter how much time he spends fighting crime alone, Robin should always show up at some point."

That's not a reason, that's nostalgic horse****.

This is how I feel about the whole Batman needs Robin thing. I don't think Batman needs Robin, but I do think he always needed Dick Grayson. The thing about Dick Grayson is that he is everything that Bruce Wayne isn't. The closest thing I can come to a reason that Batman took Dick in in the first place was that Bruce didn't want him to grow up the same way he did, without a family. Because of his influence, Bruce turned a kid who could've become what he is, vengeful, slightly insane, into one of the most respected and trusted heroes of all time. Batman's life has been shrouded in darkness. If Dick had never been there to give him just a little light, he would've become just another vigilante beating on supervillains constantly. Batman won't ever make a difference in every Gothamite's life, but he at least made one in Dick Grayson, who basically is his son. I'm not going to convince you that Batman needs a Robin, it's your opinion and that's ok. I think Dick Grayson is important to Batman, they both needed each other in their lives. That's all I got.

 

[Gothamite]

Batman won't ever make a difference in every Gothamite's life, but he at least made one in Dick Grayson, who basically is his son.

:lol:

Corny as it sounds, Batman has made a difference in my life. Him and Superman have pretty much influenced most of how I live my life. Never give up, just say 'no', be remembered by influencing others, etc, etc. You're unlikely to find many other people in real life who've been as influenced by Batman and Superman as I have.

I'm not going to convince you that Batman needs a Robin, it's your opinion and that's ok. I think Dick Grayson is important to Batman, they both needed each other in their lives. That's all I got.

Most of what you've said makes perfect sense. It makes sense that Bruce would want to give Dick a better life than the one he led. It makes perfect sense that he would train him to one day become a hero like him. It's actually sort of clever that the concept of family would keep Bruce grounded and in touch with reality, rather than descending into the darkness. What still doesn't make a shred of sense and just plain isn't entertaining, is the concept of Batman training a young boy for what can only be a couple of months, giving him a brightly coloured costume with which to fight crime, and the idea of said boy being in any way successful in his ventures. That's just silly and it takes away from the realism of someone being able to just get up and say "I'm going to make a difference, I'll spend years training my mind and body and then I'll clean up the city,". Basically, with the inclusion of Robin, Batman becomes a normal superhero with all of the ludicrousness and absurdity that comes with it.

 

[Random]

Most of what you've said makes perfect sense. It makes sense that Bruce would want to give Dick a better life than the one he led. It makes perfect sense that he would train him to one day become a hero like him. It's actually sort of clever that the concept of family would keep Bruce grounded and in touch with reality, rather than descending into the darkness. What still doesn't make a shred of sense and just plain isn't entertaining, is the concept of Batman training a young boy for what can only be a couple of months, giving him a brightly coloured costume with which to fight crime, and the idea of said boy being in any way successful in his ventures. That's just silly and it takes away from the realism of someone being able to just get up and say "I'm going to make a difference, I'll spend years training my mind and body and then I'll clean up the city,". Basically, with the inclusion of Robin, Batman becomes a normal superhero with all of the ludicrousness and absurdity that comes with it.

I get that, they only added Robin to help it work with a younger audience and not get too dark. Now I dont want kid robin, I always want the teenage version of robin, like in Batman TAS. Also the way I've always seen the Batman and Robin thing is as a master apprentice thing. Like how a Knight takes on an apprentice at an early age.