Nas-T!
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So I was rereading The Ultimates volume 1 #6 the other day and I, like, noticed THIS (bet someone else got this months ago!):
Page 21 (that's not counting adds, but counting the first catch-up page), Panel 3...is the same panel later used in The Ultimates 2 #7 Page 14 Panel 1, simply with some new inks and colours.
But what I noticed that was more important, was in volume 1, Tony's eyes are blue...while in volume 2, Tony's eyes are brown!
Yeah, in a universe where Reed Richards and Tony Stark supposedly went to the same college, but have actually never met yet, this could just be a silly mistake, but DC's made me paranoid with the eye colour thing.
Could Tony be the traitor...is this even Tony? I've been thinking about that cover with the silhouetted villains (I'm pretty sure I saw a similar image of the heroes in volume 1, #11 Page 18, Panel 7!!!) and I'm wondering if, no matter about traitors and the like, if the team isn't slowly being picked off and replaced by shape-shifters or clones or whatever the hell else!?
I mean, there's supposedly another Cap running around, right? Thor's out of the game. So are Banner and Pym. They've got Giant Men in Pym's place. Why not slowly start to pick off the entire team and replace them with "newer" soldiers.
Which then leads me back to Ultimates 2 #2's final scene, where Pym points out that them (the scientists and superheroes) are being replaced by the soldiers like Hawkeye and Black Widow. Slowly but surely, he's right. The Reserves are all wannabe Iron Men and Captain Americas. What's next!?
That again leads me to believe that the traitor, the REAL traitor is not Cap, but Nick Fury himself! I mean, didn't he seem to be laying it on a little thick about how close he was to Hawkeye? And all that stuff in front of Cap could've been an act, since Cap seemed to be completely innocent.
Maybe Fury was picking off the team and setting things up the way he wants in the only way he knew how. With force.
He puts Thor away, he kills Banner, he "kills" Hawkeye, he blames Cap. Jan was getting sidelines anyway (remember what she said to Hank in #6?). And if Nick has two faces: one public and the other private, it would explain him giving Hank the cold shoulder, no? Meanwhile, he's gonna take Hank's Ultron invention and turn it into the next big bad!
Remember how he asks Hank if he's sure Banner will be unconscious throughout his execution and Hank says he's not gonna mess up his last assignment?
Later on Hank gets a call from someone, apparently Banner, who then thanks him. His words and his expression can mean one of two things: that Bruce survived and that he's just surprised how powerful Hulk is, to survive an explosion like that...OR...that he didn't expect Bruce to be alive, and that he was surprised to hear from him.
I dunno, maybe I'm stretching logic here, but I'm hopeful for at least some of that stuff to be right.
Nas
Page 21 (that's not counting adds, but counting the first catch-up page), Panel 3...is the same panel later used in The Ultimates 2 #7 Page 14 Panel 1, simply with some new inks and colours.
But what I noticed that was more important, was in volume 1, Tony's eyes are blue...while in volume 2, Tony's eyes are brown!
Yeah, in a universe where Reed Richards and Tony Stark supposedly went to the same college, but have actually never met yet, this could just be a silly mistake, but DC's made me paranoid with the eye colour thing.
Could Tony be the traitor...is this even Tony? I've been thinking about that cover with the silhouetted villains (I'm pretty sure I saw a similar image of the heroes in volume 1, #11 Page 18, Panel 7!!!) and I'm wondering if, no matter about traitors and the like, if the team isn't slowly being picked off and replaced by shape-shifters or clones or whatever the hell else!?
I mean, there's supposedly another Cap running around, right? Thor's out of the game. So are Banner and Pym. They've got Giant Men in Pym's place. Why not slowly start to pick off the entire team and replace them with "newer" soldiers.
Which then leads me back to Ultimates 2 #2's final scene, where Pym points out that them (the scientists and superheroes) are being replaced by the soldiers like Hawkeye and Black Widow. Slowly but surely, he's right. The Reserves are all wannabe Iron Men and Captain Americas. What's next!?
That again leads me to believe that the traitor, the REAL traitor is not Cap, but Nick Fury himself! I mean, didn't he seem to be laying it on a little thick about how close he was to Hawkeye? And all that stuff in front of Cap could've been an act, since Cap seemed to be completely innocent.
Maybe Fury was picking off the team and setting things up the way he wants in the only way he knew how. With force.
He puts Thor away, he kills Banner, he "kills" Hawkeye, he blames Cap. Jan was getting sidelines anyway (remember what she said to Hank in #6?). And if Nick has two faces: one public and the other private, it would explain him giving Hank the cold shoulder, no? Meanwhile, he's gonna take Hank's Ultron invention and turn it into the next big bad!
Remember how he asks Hank if he's sure Banner will be unconscious throughout his execution and Hank says he's not gonna mess up his last assignment?
Later on Hank gets a call from someone, apparently Banner, who then thanks him. His words and his expression can mean one of two things: that Bruce survived and that he's just surprised how powerful Hulk is, to survive an explosion like that...OR...that he didn't expect Bruce to be alive, and that he was surprised to hear from him.
I dunno, maybe I'm stretching logic here, but I'm hopeful for at least some of that stuff to be right.
Nas