Ultimate Fantastic Four #31 discussion (spoilers)

[Ice]

So what if Doom got rid of the legs himself with the sorcery? That could explain why he doesn't have them anymore. It's not like he liked them anyways.

 

[Lynx]

So what if Doom got rid of the legs himself with the sorcery? That could explain why he doesn't have them anymore. It's not like he liked them anyways.

I think he still has them. Go back to the part where the FF meet up with Doom and his feet are shadowed, then you see a man putting armor on his legs. . .I'm pretty sure that's just armor over them.

 

[Ice]

I think he still has them. Go back to the part where the FF meet up with Doom and his feet are shadowed, then you see a man putting armor on his legs. . .I'm pretty sure that's just armor over them.

Didn't notice that, thanks.

I can't check though, since I don't have the issue. I read it while I was at the comic shop Thursday.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

I love how all UFF conversations eventually end up back at "The Goat Legs". :lol:

 

[Ice]

I love how all UFF conversations eventually end up back at "The Goat Legs". :lol:

It's the nexus of UFF.

It cannot be denied.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

I don't understand how anybody can possibly LIKE the goat legs...

They're stupid, none of the others transformed lost their basic Skeletal structure... It makes no sense, and was just an attempt to make Dr. Doom more Satanesque.

I love Victor's new look, and Latveria is shaping up to be a very interesting place... Also: It would seem that UFF has almost caught up with UMTU's issues with the Ambassador.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

It's the nexus of UFF.

It cannot be denied.

I see that now. All hail The Goat Legs.

I don't understand how anybody can possibly LIKE the goat legs...

They're stupid, none of the others transformed lost their basic Skeletal structure... It makes no sense, and was just an attempt to make Dr. Doom more Satanesque.

Never....ever speak ill of The Goat Legs again. Not liking The Goat Legs is gay---oh wait...nevermind. :wink:

I love Victor's new look, and Latveria is shaping up to be a very interesting place... Also: It would seem that UFF has almost caught up with UMTU's issues with the Ambassador.

I'll have to check the Timeline Thread to see where this falls....

 

[DIrishB]

Does anyone else think Doom's going to try and have sex with Sue. If I was amoral, which I'm not, that's where my mind would be headed.

I guess I'm amoral.

Glad I'm not the only one willing to admit I fell for it.

I honestly did too...everyone else also probably did, they're just pulling Houdes.

So what if Doom got rid of the legs himself with the sorcery? That could explain why he doesn't have them anymore. It's not like he liked them anyways.

Could be.

I think he still has them. Go back to the part where the FF meet up with Doom and his feet are shadowed, then you see a man putting armor on his legs. . .I'm pretty sure that's just armor over them.

Good point, hadn't noticed before...I really hope thats the case...its a bit too early to retcon something like that.

I don't understand how anybody can possibly LIKE the goat legs...

They're stupid,

Your opinion. Not a fact.

none of the others transformed lost their basic Skeletal structure... It makes no sense, and was just an attempt to make Dr. Doom more Satanesque.

Thats a lame argument. You're again applying logic to something which bears very little of it. Its a story, just go with it.

I love Victor's new look,

You mean his old look?

and Latveria is shaping up to be a very interesting place... Also: It would seem that UFF has almost caught up with UMTU's issues with the Ambassador.

Huh? This is waaaay past the UMTU issues in terms of chronology. I'm not sure how you're connecting this with the UMTU issue (#14 I believe was the Black Widow issue in the Latverian embassy).

Besides, there are a whole host of other clues to prove this occurs long after...I'm just too lazy to list them right now.

 

[innocentboy]

xxx123

 

[E]

I see that now. All hail The Goat Legs.

ALL HAIL THE GOAT LEGS!

I honestly did too...everyone else also probably did, they're just pulling Houdes.

Bwahahahahaha!!!

 

[Ice]

I honestly did too...everyone else also probably did, they're just pulling Houdes.

I didn't fall for it.













No really, I didn't. I read the spoilers here first and then read the issue two days later. I couldn't wait.

 

[Lynx]

I don't understand how anybody can possibly LIKE the goat legs...

They're stupid, none of the others transformed lost their basic Skeletal structure... It makes no sense, and was just an attempt to make Dr. Doom more Satanesque.

I didn't them either, but if Ben can became several times larger than he was, not to mention be completely encased in rock. . .Doom can have goat legs.

What I want to know is why did they all of a sudden start calling Victor "Dr. Doom"? That was never explained. . .

 

[Ultimate MJ]

Your opinion. Not a fact.

Wrong.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

What I want to know is why did they all of a sudden start calling Victor "Dr. Doom"? That was never explained. . .

His name is the "Ashlee Simpson's new nose" of the UU. We just don't talk about and accept it as is.

 

[Goodwill]

I thought the issue was good until Doom and Reed switched bodies... I fail to see where Millar will take that in one issue. It's just going to seem like a rushed defeat. BORE. I do like that he is drawing his resources from Atlantis, though. That is real cool.

 

[Caduceus]

They're stupid, none of the others transformed lost their basic Skeletal structure...

Er...Reed?

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Er...Reed?

...or lack thereof.

 

[Caduceus]

...or lack thereof.

Exactly. Warping or removing entirely, they're not so different.

 

[bwilton]

It was a pretty good story but Reed should have just taken the book to Dr. Strange. In 616 Dooms mother was a gypsy sorceress or something like that, that's where the magic ties in. But it really seems to be laying the groundwork for a return of Namor. Don't tell me he just flew off never to be heard from again. It'll be interesting to see him and Doom lock horns. I mean the guy raided his home, he'll come back and want all of his stuff.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

I thought the issue was good until Doom and Reed switched bodies... I fail to see where Millar will take that in one issue. It's just going to seem like a rushed defeat. BORE. I do like that he is drawing his resources from Atlantis, though. That is real cool.

I get what you mean by rushed. Reed's got to stop the flow of Zombies into the UU, banish the Frightful Four, cure Johnny and reclaim his own body. All of that in one issue is going to be difficult to do and not come across as half assed.

The Namor arc was still crappy, but this one issue has redeemed it somewhat. It also has redeemed the Skrull arc by proving the "accident" wasn't Doom's fault.

 

[Sacred&Profane]

I get what you mean by rushed. Reed's got to stop the flow of Zombies into the UU, banish the Frightful Four, cure Johnny and reclaim his own body. All of that in one issue is going to be difficult to do and not come across as half assed.

The Namor arc was still crappy, but this one issue has redeemed it somewhat. It also has redeemed the Skrull arc by proving the "accident" wasn't Doom's fault.

He doesn't have to stop the flow of zombies into the UU- there are none on that world due to the end of the Marvel Zombies arc:wink:

 

[MaxwellSmart]

He doesn't have to stop the flow of zombies into the UU- there are none on that world due to the end of the Marvel Zombies arc:wink:

Okay, I didn't actually read Marvel Zombies. I only ever heard about it from people. Thanks for mentioning that. If you hadn't I would have read the last issue and been confused as hell.

 

[cmdrjanjalani]

Okay, I didn't actually read Marvel Zombies. I only ever heard about it from people. Thanks for mentioning that. If you hadn't I would have read the last issue and been confused as hell.

For a little summary, a small band of zombies (Spidey, Cage, Giant Man, Col. America, Iron Man and Hulk) who managed to eat Silver Surfer is confronted by their fellow undead, pissed that they didn't leave anything for them. The cosmic-powered zombies decide to fry all the rest hoping they will taste any better, but were wrong. Later, Galactus finally arrives and he is attacked by the zombie villains. While Galactus is distracted, our 'heroes' managed to develop a weapon powerful enough to take him down. They succeed, but this only diverts the attentions of the villain zombies on them. The super-zombies eventually wiped them out with Colonel America as their only casualty. With nothing left in their world, and eating Galactus, they decide to set their sights in the skies and find more food in other planets.

Although a few uninfected survivors (plus a zombie disembodied Wasp) managed to hide within Asteroid M, they only set foot on the abandoned Earth after several years. So that is why when the Frightful Four will open the portal, they'll be in for a huge disappointment. A burning pile of bodies will be the only thing they will see.

 

[E.Vi.L.]

I'm not sure Millar will rely on that. It would assume we know the story (I didn't).

It makes more sense to either have the heroes arrive in the nick of time, or when the portal has just opened and so they fight off Frightful Four and a handful of Zombies whop manage to cross before the portal is shut down.

But hey, maybe it opens and we just get : "Oh, Zombies wiped each other out. Who'd have thought?" and then a fight, but that would kind of lame, especially for non Marvel-Zombies reader.

 

[E]

I'm not sure Millar will rely on that. It would assume we know the story (I didn't).

I'm not sure he would either, but if he did I think he could pull it off.

 

[vintsukka]

Didn't Kirkman say somewhere that he told Millar how he was ending MZ and then Millar came up with a way to tie the ending to Frightful.

So, while I'm sure Millar won't assume everyone's read MZ, he's sure as hell not gonna ignore it either.

 

[thee great one]

Best issue this series has had let.

Doom. I don't know how to explain how badass he was

The art was great. I was also fooled by the zombies. I should of seen that.

Doom is going to kick thier asses.

Millar and Land all the way.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Millar and Land all the way.

Yeah.....the next crew is gonna have some pretty big shoes to fill.

 

[Ultimate MJ]

I'm not sure Millar will rely on that. It would assume we know the story (I didn't).

It makes more sense to either have the heroes arrive in the nick of time, or when the portal has just opened and so they fight off Frightful Four and a handful of Zombies whop manage to cross before the portal is shut down.

But hey, maybe it opens and we just get : "Oh, Zombies wiped each other out. Who'd have thought?" and then a fight, but that would kind of lame, especially for non Marvel-Zombies reader.

No way. This would be awful, a lot of people may not have read MZ, but that doesnt make it out of continuity. It was an awesome miniseries that everyone should check out, I would be offended if Millar decided to ignore it.

The best way to resolve the scenario would be like you suggest, to have the heroes save the day so the issue is never brought up.

But seriously, read Marvel Zombies. Its great, gruesome, action packed, and funny as hell. Kirkman has some great fun on this title, and its infectious.

 

[Hibiki]

No way. This would be awful, a lot of people may not have read MZ, but that doesnt make it out of continuity. It was an awesome miniseries that everyone should check out, I would be offended if Millar decided to ignore it.

The best way to resolve the scenario would be like you suggest, to have the heroes save the day so the issue is never brought up.

But seriously, read Marvel Zombies. Its great, gruesome, action packed, and funny as hell. Kirkman has some great fun on this title, and its infectious.

The book or the zombies?