I gotta disagree, I kinda feel the opposite.I prefer Ultimate Spider-man's take on almost everything. However he's what I think Spectacular spider-man did better:
1st Venom. While I've grown to like Ultimate Venom at first I hated him. I shouldn't have hated him. But it took the game to get him to grow on me. Spectacular spider-man build up Eddie from the start so it was much cooler when he turned. Plus he was closer to 616 one which is also great.
2nd The Lizard was handled very well on the cartoon. In ultimate spider-man he was just meh in Ultimate comics.
Well we can agree on that. :wink:I'll agree with Spectacular Vulture as Ultimate Vulture was a waste
:lol:Well we can agree on that. :wink:
Also I like Spectacular Carnage better then Ultimate Carnage, because Spectacular Carnage doesn't exist and likely never will (Greg Weisman doesn't like him) that's the best direction you can take for a character like Carnage.
I'm sorry I think he sucks, Gwen's death was lame, it was totally about shock value, it wasn't interesting at all. Plus Ultimate carnage is very boring, more a plot device then a character. Plus Carnage turning into Gwen is just lame and really weird. The carnage arc was the first dip quality in USM.:lol:
I don't like 616 Carnage but Ultimate Carnage I thought the clone element plus killing Gwen then becoming Gwen and been Peter himself (game) was an interesting dynamic to add the character. I do like Ultimate Carnage.
i'm not really bothered by the lack of racial diversity, it doesn't take any of the realism away, neither does it make the supporting cast boring or uninteresting.Also I like the supporting cast way more too, I like the fact the Spectacular cast is more racial diverse, it makes sense in 2008, while it seems like in USM the entire cast white, like their still stuck in the 60s or something. Plus I think Spectacular Flash is more interesting a jerk with a few good impulses, while Ultimate Flash is just a jerk period.
Ah yes it was, there were far less non white immigrants in the 60s in America and with civil rights struggle still going on, it was less likely to see white and black students in the same highschool.Because America was LESS racially diverse before.
Like who? How many non white students are there in USM?i'm not really bothered by the lack of racial diversity, it doesn't take any of the realism away, neither does it make the supporting cast boring or uninteresting.
actually, usm does have some racial diversity, and even though it's just like 3 or 4 characters, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Not really, all they did was introduce these villains, they didn't throw them away, there are still tons of stories that can be done with villains now that they have been introduced, they do have 40 years worth of stories to work with here. In the second season, we will see the Master Planer saga and more revealations on the true nature of the Green Goblin.I haven't read any posts in here.
I simply want to state that Spectacular (Which is spelled incorrectly in the title, a mod should fix that) Spider-man the cartoon, while good, blew it's load too early. They hit a huge number villains in the first arc, so I have no idea where the creative team is going to go from here.
I'm talking about USM, Nick Fury is a supporting character of the Ultimates, he merely guest stars in USM.The racial diversity thing though has one problem. 616. Let me explain or try to. The ultimate universe is still a universe based on already created characters. You change too many races and people complain, they always do. Don't change any and people complain.
So the Ultimate Universe did something in the middle. Because while you could have say a black Peter Parker or a Mexican Wolverine some characters that they could change they did. One of which been Nick Fury. They changed his race but the fact his such a big part of the Ultimate universe helps the diversity claims.
Then some others have had race chanced. But they couldn't change everyone's race and people need to remember while say "Ultimate Fantasic four" maybe "Ultimate universe" it also equally "Fantastic four" so they have to keep as many races the same as 616 as they can but change just a few to keep people happy.
Now Spectacular spider-man while based on Spider-man is a TV show. TV shows need racial diversity and more each generation. My example of this would be Ghostbusters.
The real ghostbusters (1986 - 1991) = 3 white guys and one token Black (sorry if that's offence but that's what it was.)
Extreme Ghostbusters (1997) - Goth girl , A handicapped man , a black guy and a Mexican guy
So in just 6 years it went from 1 minority to pretty much 3 minorities (4 if you want to include the goth chick) So comparing the two on races is a little unfair as they both have different reasons for why they have the races the way they do.
I know I'm most likely explaining this wrong. But hopefully someone gets what I was trying to say.
i never said anything about students.Like who? How many non white students are there in USM?
Well I am. All that is irrelevant, Robbie was black back 60s, Shang is a guest star, not a supporting cast member, ditto with Fury, let leaves Robbie as the only legit example and that was the case back in the 60s.i never said anything about students.
nick fury is black (he guest stars [or at least used to] way too much to be just a guest star), robbie is black, shang-chi is asian, and that makes 3 i think. lol
and really? i used to study live in the US, i knew some non white people, but the group i hung out with was all made of white people (no particular reason), except me of course, since i'm brazilian, so i see no problem in pete's social group being made of only white people, i mean, it happened to me right? lol
Well why wasn't done in USM in the first place?you wanna diversify create a new ****ing character.
It's quite simple