Ultimate X-Men #78 discussion (Spoilers)

Victor Von Doom

Fist of teh Internets.
Meh. A solid outting by Kirkman.


Synopsis---
We open with Xavier and Scott in the Blackbird. Xavier is pleading for Scott to talk about what was said at the Mansion. Scott man's up and say's that they'll be there in 4 minutes and he'd prefer if the Prof. just shut up until then.

At the SixPack battle we get the 2 teams fighting going back and forth. For every X-Man to get knocked down A Six Pack member goes down too. One Packer says "Bobby Drake? The legend!...It's an honor to kick your--". He is interrupted by Wolverine.

Scott and Xavier arrive and Scott jumps out the plane and tells Xavier to pick his brain to land the jet and to tell Storm to help him out with his landing. Scott lands and proceeds to kick the **** outta the man/bear guy. Meanwhile, Cable confronts Bishop and knocks him on his ***. Cable steals Bishops chronal displacer (which I assume allows him to travel thru time). This leaves Bishop stranded here in this time.

All of a sudden, Xavier crashes the plane into the battle and injures the rest of the Packers.

While the X-Men regroup, the Packers say "screw this--we don't get paid enough" and escape back to their own time. Meanwhile, Cable escapes back into the fort and Scott goes after him. What follows is a battle that spans a couple pages.

During the fight, Cable throws a bladed-disc thru Scott's visor and Scott has to battle sans visor. The fight goes back and forth. While it's obvious that Cable would win---Scott puts up a good defense. But Cable gets the upper hand and decides to end this and whips out his gun.

But at that moment Xavier crawls up and yells for Cable. Cable gets distracted and Scott shoots the gun outta his hand and then hits him again with another optic blast. Xaiver tells Cable that it's over and that he's failed his mission. Cable disagrees and pulls out a grenade/bomb device. Xavier flings Scott outta the bunker as the grenade goes off. The X-Men go back into the bunker after the blast and see the charred skeletal remains of Xavier with no sign of Cable.

Jean, in the other room, goeas all Phoenix on us and escapes her cell. Se sees the other X-Men standing over Xavier's skeleton. Scott says there's nothing they could do. Jean is all in disbelief screaming that "it can't be".

But it is. Xavier is dead. The end.





Like I said---this was meh. Not the ending I was hoping for....but some closure nonetheless. X is dead. Cable is gone. Bishop's still here.

A lot of open-ended stuff for him to play with later.


The issue itself was a 3.5/5. If nothing elsejust to Cyke get all heroic on us and man up.


The arc overall was 3/5. Solid stuff---holes a plenty----but a hell of a lot better than his abismally ****ty Date Night, Phoenix, Magical arcs.
 
OH......MY......GAH!!!!

Who didnt see Xavier's death comin? Anywho, with the Beast ressurection, and yes this is a theory, Xavier tranfers his mind into Beast body. Just a theory!
 

TheManWithoutFear

#1 reason not to join UC
I'll take it. I loved it. Iceman the legend and Grizzly's "I never liked you" to Scott made me giddy. Scott must be huge in the future if he's the leader now and dare anyone say he's a ***** now. Kirkman finally put Scott into the position that no writer has. And he owns!!

Xavier's in the future.

4.5/5
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
I'll take it. I loved it. Iceman the legend and Grizzly's "I never liked you" to Scott made me giddy. Scott must be huge in the future if he's the leader now and dare anyone say he's a ***** now. Kirkman finally put Scott into the position that no writer has. And he owns!!

Xavier's in the future.

4.5/5
Yeah, Kirkman is definetly making it up for these characters from before, since they were never really given the spotlight they deserved. Back-seat no more!
 

Lynx

Well-Known Member
Well, I guess Cable is Wolverine. And Xavier's dead, in the future, or in Beast.

Meh. Not very impressed. Not horrible, but not impressed.
 
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Zombipanda

My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
The issue itself wasn't all that great. I mean, we could have all guessed exactly what happened. But it threw in a bunch of little character moments and put the book in a very good place.

Cyclops saying "**** you" to the Professor and proving himself as a leader was long overdue. The idea of Bobby becoming legendary is immensely cool, and the fact that none of Cable's crew know about Wolverine is righteous. It would have been nice to get more of a tease either from Cable or Xavier about what's to come, but Xavier being all "I caused this" was pretty cool.

"X-MEN! GO LIMP!" - very cheesy.

It's cool to see something serious develop between Storm and Wolverine as well.
 

Zombipanda

My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
:lol: That was an actual line?! :lol:

Verbatim. And I'm classy enough to not make a cheesy joke here.

It's what Professor X said before driving the jet into the middle of the fight.

Yep. That's how the fight ended. PROFESSOR X CRASHED A JET INTO THE MELEE!!! And his brilliant strategic advice was "X-MEN! GO LIMP!" Apparently that worked, because none of them were injured. Honestly, I would have preferred "X-MEN! CLOSE YOUR EYES! IF YOU CAN'T SEE THEM, THEY CAN'T SEE YOU!"

Oh well.... It's gonna suck, them having to walk home.
 

Foolsfolly

Well-Known Member
For those of you that said, "You could so tell what was going to happen."

I point you to the "Who's Next to Die" thread which had only 8 people out of 43 to say Xavier.

Right up until Marvel did the solit that dropped Cyke's name, everyone thought it was Cyke.

It was the arc that UXM has been BEGGING for, and I'm glad it's here. Cyke kicks *** again, the X-Men are up against the wall, and there's still room aplenty to have Cable not be Wolverine, and that Xavier is still alive (what? Ultimate Beast is coming back and he was killed and buried and we saw the body, not some charred remains).

The book's going places, and I'm glad I decided to stick it out despite Magician's ability to drag the book down.

Issue? 4/5

Arc? 5/5, the book needed this arc and this arc will have effects for years of stories.
 

ShaggyMarco

Well-Known Member
Other than the coolness from the Shi-ar Church (the best thing to come out of Kirkman's "filler" arcs) I think this arc proves that Kirkman has as much a right to write this book as anyone else who has been on the title. Now that Kirkman has the gloves off and is writing X-men the way HE wants to write it, I think we are going to see a few years (or however long Kirkman is on this book) where Ultimate X-men is hands-down the best Ultimate title.

I only think people saw where this issue was going because of bad spoiler-full solicitations. The solit-writers should be fired!

(Well, I clearly saw who was going to die before hand, as my vote in the Who is Next to Die thread...not that I'm bragging)
 

Willverine

Well-Known Member
So, what's the over/under for the ressurrection of Ultimate Professor X?

You know he's not going to stay dead forever, right?

I give it six months.
 

ShaggyMarco

Well-Known Member
How long is Kirkman's run?

I'll say that Professor X doesn't come back until 3 issues after Kirkman is no longer writing Ultimate X-men.
 

Neriek

Member
Well, I have just read the whole arc, apart from the first part, issue 75 (could not find it anywhere), and I thought that they left a lot open in the arc for the writers to play with.

I am going to think that the story can get so much better, and I am curious to know what happened to Cable. I personally think that he is some sort of clone of Wolverine, which was used from the flesh that Sabretooth gave to that man (I am so terrible with names). That would explain how his healing factor vanished, or was that explained in #75.

I would probably give it a 4/5, but, I am kind of new to comics.
 

Joe Kalicki

Well-Known Member
Did anyone notice in the letters page how they blamed the lack of the time bugs from UFF showing up to eat Cable/Wolverine on Ultimate Power 2? Probably just a throwaway reference, but might have some effect on the chronology placement.
 

Victor Von Doom

Fist of teh Internets.
Did anyone notice in the letters page how they blamed the lack of the time bugs from UFF showing up to eat Cable/Wolverine on Ultimate Power 2? Probably just a throwaway reference, but might have some effect on the chronology placement.

Missed it. I'll have to check it out at lunch.

More than likely it was probably some lame joke the letter people made in order to quickly pass the buck and make themselves seem witty. It probably even said something like:

"Good question Tom. They weren't there for reason. But you'll have to stay tuned to the Ultimate Universe to find out. :wink:"
 

Joe Kalicki

Well-Known Member
Missed it. I'll have to check it out at lunch.

More than likely it was probably some lame joke the letter people made in order to quickly pass the buck and make themselves seem witty. It probably even said something like:

"Good question Tom. They weren't there for reason. But you'll have to stay tuned to the Ultimate Universe to find out. :wink:"

They said something like (I don't have it in front of me): "Maybe they have something more important to do in the universe, see Ultimate Power 2 for a Universe threatening event."

As I say, I'm sure it wasn't meant to be serious, but lacking any further information about A) why they didn't show up, and B) the placement of Ultimate Power, it's as good as anything.
 

Gemini

Well-Known Member
this was a great issue, but it felt a little dry i can't quite put my finger on it, and i don't think their was enough of a reaction to Xavier's death.

3.5/5
 

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