Universal Monsters - Viewing Order

[Maciej Jankowski]

How do you think the Island came to be?

I would assume a scientist who is aware of the monsters did that.

 

[barryh]

https://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=31565.0
...Return of the Vampire, huh? Nice... King Kong... wait, KING KONG!? THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD!? Citizen Kane? Mm... THE EXORCIST!?!

It sounds like a fun book, but it's basically published fanfiction (/headcanon) linking swathes of 30s-70s movies. I wouldn't really rely on it as canon.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

It sounds like a fun book, but it's basically published fanfiction (/headcanon) linking swathes of 30s-70s movies. I wouldn't really rely on it as canon.

it is licensed. Universal holds the copyright to the character and fanfiction can only be non-profit if you don't want to have legal issues. As the writer is a film historian aswell, he knows what would happen so he wouldn't do it. Besides the covers contans shot from the film, which you can't do if you don't have a license or if the film is in public domain. The Wolf Man is not in public domain yet.

 

[iceman109]

Is Van Helsing set in 1887 or 1888 because it's different between the two lists along with We Will Be Monsters being split between 2021 and 2022

 

[Pro Bot]

And I thought JoJo's Jesus was weird enough, what with him pretty much being the very first Stand User.
https://jojowiki.com/Jesus_Christ

You know, I figured the Van Helsing Dracula was probably the first. Guess it's actually Jesus.

 

[barryh]

it is licensed. Universal holds the copyright to the character and fanfiction can only be non-profit if you don't want to have legal issues. As the writer is a film historian aswell, he knows what would happen so he wouldn't do it. Besides the covers contans shot from the film, which you can't do if you don't have a license or if the film is in public domain. The Wolf Man is not in public domain yet.

I don't think it's licensed. He's written several other self-published books in a similar vein, e.g. mashing together unrelated mummy movies with The Man from U.N.C.L.E. or early zombie/voodoo movies with characters from Jaws, Indiana Jones and Leave It to Beaver etc., regardless of studio or copyright.

 

[Pro Bot]

If it ain't licenced, that definitely would make things way easier.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

I don't think it's licensed. He's written several other self-published books in a similar vein, e.g. mashing together unrelated mummy movies with The Man from U.N.C.L.E. or early zombie/voodoo movies with characters from Jaws, Indiana Jones and Leave It to Beaver etc., regardless of studio or copyright.

they use stills from the films inside. That's a huge violation if it ain't licensed. but eitherway, I can't find anywhere a confirmation for it to be licensed or fanfiction. The best way to move forward would be ignore it until it's proven to be licensed @Pro Bot

 

[Pro Bot]

You know, I figured the Van Helsing Dracula was probably the first. Guess it's actually Jesus.

Don't forget, there's literally two Alvin and the Chipmunks crossovers too. Talbot's lycanthropy was cured, although I take it that was very much temporary as is par the course for these things.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Don't forget, there's literally two Alvin and the Chipmunks crossovers too. Talbot's lycanthropy was cured, although I take it that was very much temporary as is par the course for these things.

very likely, he can't take a break can he

 

[SpiderMan1232025]

If it ain't licenced, that definitely would make things way easier.

That's a good point. Licensing can definitely complicate things, especially when it comes to using stills from films. It's interesting to see how these issues are navigated in different publications.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Don't forget, there's literally two Alvin and the Chipmunks crossovers too. Talbot's lycanthropy was cured, although I take it that was very much temporary as is par the course for these things.

Say what?!

 

[Pro Bot]

Is Van Helsing set in 1887 or 1888 because it's different between the two lists along with We Will Be Monsters being split between 2021 and 2022

Both. There's a time jump.

 

[Pro Bot]

Say what?!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_Meet_Frankensteinhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_Meet_the_WolfmanTechnically they're actual Universal Monsters content. There's a unique version of Victor Frankenstein who creates a new Frankenstein's monster inside a Frankenstein's castle attraction, and there's the original Larry Talbot Wolfman after he's brought back in the Return of the Wolfman novel.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_Meet_Frankensteinhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_and_the_Chipmunks_Meet_the_WolfmanTechnically they're actual Universal Monsters content. There's a unique version of Victor Frankenstein who creates a new Frankenstein's monster inside a Frankenstein's castle attraction, and there's the original Larry Talbot Wolfman after he's brought back in the Return of the Wolfman novel.

The best crossovers ever made! XD

 

[Pro Bot]

Bram Stoker's Dracula Starring Bela Lugosi and Mary Shalley's Frankenstein Starring Boris Karloff comics added, which are essentially the original books but with the UM actors. I suppose you could argue that the original Dracula novel happened with Bela Lugosi... before happening to him again in 1931.

 

[Pro Bot]

Mighty Monsterwheelies added... don't look it up.

 

[iceman109]

It would be funny to see a Spanish version of Renfield which would act as a sequel to the Spanish Dracula set in Latin America

 

[iceman109]

Is it possible that the Spanish Dracula went through similar events that his English counterpart did?

 

[Pro Bot]

Is it possible that the Spanish Dracula went through similar events that his English counterpart did?

I would only argue that the 1931 events are somewhat similar, if you want my take.

 

[iceman109]

It would be cool to have a versus movie between English Dracula and Spanish Dracula with Antonio Banderas playing the Spanish Dracula

 

[Pro Bot]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheBrideOfFrankensteinPandorasBride

Massive Multiplayer Crossover
Pandora, of course, is the Bride of Frankenstein.
Cesare from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is Dr. Pretorius's assistant and valet instead — and it turns out he's a pretty nice young man when he's not being brainwashed into committing murders while sleepwalking.
Henry Frankenstein presses Hans Beckert, the whistling child-killer from M, into his service.
Dr. Rotwang builds his robot girl on the outskirts of Berlin in the 1920s rather than in the fantastical future of Metropolis.
And Lulu from Pandora's Box performs at a club with his robotic creation.
Christopher Isherwood (himself a Historical Domain Character) offers to introduce Pandora to a friend of his who performs at another club, an American singer.

Uh... so Metropolis, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, M and Pandora's Box are connected in some way. This novel doesn't really contradict the Frankenstein films other than the 1920s timeline, but this does contradict the aforementioned films in some ways.

 

[Pro Bot]

Metropolis' Dr. Rotwang can be rationalised as a relative of the Pandora's Bride character, since one lives in 1899 and the other in 2026. That or it's the same as The Mummy's Hand characters in Dark Universe Stories or Sherlock Holmes' apparent lack of aging.

 

[iceman109]

Would the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's Dracula be a variant of Armand Tesla's Dracula or would it be someone else?

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Would the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's Dracula be a variant of Armand Tesla's Dracula or would it be someone else?

It's not connected to Universal Monsters in any way besides being based on the same characters who are public domain, so he's someone else

 

[iceman109]

This article says that the original Dracula book is supposed to be set in 1893

https://vampvault.jimdofree.com/tid... Stoker used a calendar,set in the year 1893.

 

[Pro Bot]

If this is referring to Bram Stoker's Dracula Starring Bela Lugosi, that places itself explicitly in 1890. Otherwise, yeah that's interesting. Only the unofficial Christopher Lee Count Dracula film is set there.

 

[iceman109]

Is this on the timeline?

https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Mummy-Frank-Dello-Stritto/dp/0970426992

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Is this on the timeline?

https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Mummy-Frank-Dello-Stritto/dp/0970426992

No, we are waiting to see if it is licensed or if it's published fanfiction

 

[iceman109]

@Pro Bot is the Boris Karloff Frankenstein book adaptation the same as the movie or is it another Frankenstein?