Ultimate Spiderman #101 discussion (Spoilers)

I get what Random is saying and it's a good point. How could the ramifications from this mean anything compared to any of the times he's had to yell at her for getting involved (i.e. when he was fighting Hobgoblin). It's not the same thing at all.
 
How could the ramifications from this mean anything compared to any of the times he's had to yell at her for getting involved (i.e. when he was fighting Hobgoblin).

That's what I'm looking to find out. Not talk myself into thinking it's going to be crap before I see the finished product. But for starters, Mary Jane didn't get involved here. She got kidnapped from her bedroom and turn into a freak against her will.
 
i have given bendis too many damn chances i know he can write a good book but now i am just disillusioned i'll still buy USM and NA in hopes that things will turn around but this is dreck plain and simple

you guys shouldn't be calling MJ-goblin the ultimate demogoblin, even the demogoblin was cooler than this garbage

given MJ super-powers is taboo in spider-man for a reason... BECAUSE IT'S F*CKING STUPID

i am changing my rating for this issue to 1.5/5

and ultimate tarantula really pisses me off honestly what was the thought process behind that? jesus tap dancing christ

#102 better be considerably better
 
you guys shouldn't be calling MJ-goblin the ultimate demogoblin, even the demogoblin was cooler than this garbage
We are calling her that, because Bendis actually referred to her as that on his forum. He said "poor MJ, I mean poor demogoblin"
I know this sounds silly, but I don't think Bendis would be torturing/teasing us about her transformation if he truly meant her permanent harm. This guy might like to tease his fans, but he's still usually a good guy.
On a random note, a new podcast came out, he mentionned he'd been getting screamed at about MJ. Somehow I doubt he'd pull something so unpopular twice.
#102 better be considerably better
Agreed. Though I was a little miffed by the lack of significant progress in the plot in 101, I still enjoyed the FF showing up. It was the last bit that completly ruined the issue, and made me put it down in disgust.
 
I was reading an interview with Bendis and he was saying the reason why he did the clone saga was because it was such a big part of the 616 universe. Then the last thing he said was, " I love this job and I'll never stop. You'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands."
 
I was reading an interview with Bendis and he was saying the reason why he did the clone saga was because it was such a big part of the 616 universe. Then the last thing he said was, " I love this job and I'll never stop. You'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands."

*Cocks gun*


I find that incredible stupid, the original clone saga almost destroyed comics, was kinda the last nail in the coffin. I really hope Marvel wises up soon and save USM from Bendis
 
I was reading an interview with Bendis and he was saying the reason why he did the clone saga was because it was such a big part of the 616 universe. Then the last thing he said was, " I love this job and I'll never stop. You'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands."
NOOOOOO!!!!!!





BEEEEEEEENDDIIIIIIIISSSSS!!!!!!!
*Cocks gun*


I find that incredible stupid, the original clone saga almost destroyed comics, was kinda the last nail in the coffin. I really hope Marvel wises up soon and save USM from Bendis
As much as I hate to admit it, Marvel will never, ever take him off this book by force. It's been too big, for too long under his run.
 
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What I meant by stupid thing twice..after Gwen died, he caught major crap..he mentionned that readers left the book after it. So I'm thinking he wouldn't do it twice.
After reading UXM 76 today though, I have a new worry.
Kitty announced her intention to leave the X-men, and she apparently doesn't like fighting crazy people. I'd bet $20 she's suddenly going to show up at Midtown High, and try to keep Peter..while completly forgetting the results of Deadpool. And suddenly no-one will recognize her, and she can be with Peter as herself. Some people at the Bendis board has been suggesting move her over to USM permanently, and this idea seems to be becoming a reality. I think it's a craptastic idea.
 
I think its more likely that the possibility of Kitty leaving is referencing the first time she quit (when she called Prof. X a Jerk) in 616...

I'd be surprised to see Kitty come to USP permanently
 
I think its more likely that the possibility of Kitty leaving is referencing the first time she quit (when she called Prof. X a Jerk) in 616...

I'd be surprised to see Kitty come to USP permanently
No, I think she was serious. Didn't Kirkman say he was going to trim down the roster a bit? Nightcrawler is in the coma and Dazzler left, Kitty could be next. And the cover to #75 Kitty is the only current X-men left off.

And I have no doubt that if she leaves UXM she'll end up in USM. Not saying it's good or bad before it develops, but mark my words if she leaves one book she'll become a regular in the other.
 
I think its more likely that the possibility of Kitty leaving is referencing the first time she quit (when she called Prof. X a Jerk) in 616...

I'd be surprised to see Kitty come to USP permanently

I can see her for an arc or two. But I dont want this Kitty to last, it takes away from the everyman we keep talking about. It was interesting but I'm ready to move away from it
 
And I have no doubt that if she leaves UXM she'll end up in USM. Not saying it's good or bad before it develops, but mark my words if she leaves one book she'll become a regular in the other.
It's not a good thing either. This is Spider-man..not Spider-man AND Shadowcat.
Of course this could just be a fake out,
and she'll be the dead one at the end of the arc, though Cable looked at Rogue and Bobby and specifically said to one of them " I didn't think I could forget YOU" ( implying to me, that one of them is dead meat )
I think that's my biggest worry..That we are going to see deliberate character manipulation to make Kitty fit Peter as the long term love interest, owing to her popularity. ( Similar to what was done to 616 MJ a long time ago, and look how the writers are complaining about her now, and we've already seen it, in USM 87 Kitty could talk of nothing else but fighting, and now she doesn't like to fight bad guys? That's all her and Spidey have done together. )
We've already seen MJ get most likely removed from the scene, ( she's probably end up in SHIELD custody at the end of it, and out of Peter's life ) And suddenly Kitty wants out of the X-men too. You can see it coming.
 
I can see her for an arc or two. But I dont want this Kitty to last, it takes away from the everyman we keep talking about. It was interesting but I'm ready to move away from it
Yes, exactly. Though, in Bendis's most recent podcast, he mentions that Jessica Jones will be showing up shortly. Hopefully she can get some fans's attention off of Shadowcat.
 
the original clone saga almost destroyed comics, was kinda the last nail in the coffin

The comics industry was killed before the clone saga happened. It was one of the extreme things done to try and escape that death.
 
It's not a good thing either. This is Spider-man..not Spider-man AND Shadowcat.
Of course this could just be a fake out,
and she'll be the dead one at the end of the arc, though Cable looked at Rogue and Bobby and specifically said to one of them " I didn't think I could forget YOU" ( implying to me, that one of them is dead meat )
I think that's my biggest worry..That we are going to see deliberate character manipulation to make Kitty fit Peter as the long term love interest, owing to her popularity. ( Similar to what was done to 616 MJ a long time ago, and look how the writers are complaining about her now, and we've already seen it, in USM 87 Kitty could talk of nothing else but fighting, and now she doesn't like to fight bad guys? That's all her and Spidey have done together. )
We've already seen MJ get most likely removed from the scene, ( she's probably end up in SHIELD custody at the end of it, and out of Peter's life ) And suddenly Kitty wants out of the X-men too. You can see it coming.
I severely doubt that Kitty will die. And as for the book becoming Spider-man and Shadowcat. If she does come over I doubt she'll do any fighting. If she leaves the X-Men to get away from the craziness she'll probably just try and live a normal life, not become Spiderman's sidekick. I also doubt MJ will end up in SHIELD custody. I think Bendis will probably fix his own crap before this arc is up.
Yes, exactly. Though, in Bendis's most recent podcast, he mentions that Jessica Jones will be showing up shortly. Hopefully she can get some fans's attention off of Shadowcat.
Jessica Jones eh? Interesting. No wait, the way Bendis is writing she'll probably become Ultimate Mysterio or something.
 
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I severely doubt that Kitty will die. And as for the book becoming Spider-man and Shadowcat. If she does come over I doubt she'll do any fighting. If she leaves the X-Men to get away from the craziness she'll probably just try and live a normal life, not become Spiderman's sidekick. I also doubt MJ will end up in SHIELD custody. I think Bendis will probably fix his own crap before this arc is up.
If she's not fighting then what do her and Peter have in common? powers? if she's not using them, then MJ will have her beat. And we'll never hear the end of the "OMG!! It's Shadowcat!!"
And the second she showed up at Midtown High, Peter's secret ID is toast. You can't be on the cover of People Magazine then show up and expect no-one is recognize you. Unless Prof X does some mass psychic mind wipe, which Peter has said "it's wrong" when she suggested using it to cover his absence. Half the people at Midtown High would figure it out instantly, especially after Kong in vol 3, not to mention Silver Sable.
Jessica Jones eh? Interesting. No wait, the way Bendis is writing she'll probably become Ultimate Mysterio or something.

lol..well if they want to explore non-famous super-powered girls, then they got the right girl. And I think Bendis only messes with girls he wants to remove as potential love interests, lol.
 
Jessica Jones eh? Interesting. No wait, the way Bendis is writing she'll probably become Ultimate Mysterio or something.

Funny because that could totally happen.
 

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