The Incredible Hulk Discussion Thread--SPOILERS!!

[Ice]

I read about the opening ending on a Newsarama article and they never mentioned about the Cap part.

 

[Random]

Deleted scene of Banner and Sampson talking as well as part of the making of

 

[Captain Canuck]

I don't see how anyone could make that out. I'm looking right at it and still can't tell if its anything but rocks. Also isn't it suppose to be an alternate ending?

yeah, i couldn't see it at first either, but look again, you can see his shield and then with that as a point of reference you can see the outline of his body.

 

[ourchair]

Now tell me the Letterier version has better music.. Seriously, at 0.33, that's definitive.

The 2008 version had a small snippet of The Lonely Man (or the 'sad walking away music' as it is commonly referred to) yes, but it was under-used and it couldn't possibly make up for the stock, 'action chase badass' music that they used incessantly for the rest of the movie, with no emotion in it, whatsoever.

I automatically like the music to the Leterrier movie more than the Lee one, simply because it's NOT Danny Elfman who is a ****ing irritating and over-rated film score composer, and I wish people would stop hiring for superhero films.

 

[Gothamite]

I automatically like the music to the Leterrier movie more than the Lee one, simply because it's NOT Danny Elfman who is a ****ing irritating and over-rated film score composer, and I wish people would stop hiring for superhero films.

Well then your wish is Hollywood's command, because he hasn't done a superhero movie since Spider-Man 2, which was four years ago. :?

 

[ultimatedjf]

Well then your wish is Hollywood's command, because he hasn't done a superhero movie since Spider-Man 2, which was four years ago. :?

Ummm, Hellboy II?

 

[E]

Ummm, Hellboy II?

Hellboy is considered a super hero?

 

[thee great one]

I would say yes. especially in the movies.

 

[Random]

Hellboy is considered a super hero?

Super abilities? Check
Hero? Check

I guess so it seems to add up

 

[ourchair]

Yes, Hellboy II's score bothered me.

I fail to understand why the replaced the vastly superior Marco Beltrami with that ****ing hack.

 

[Captain Canuck]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/dvdreviewsnews.php?id=49655

Superherohype reviews the Incredible Hulk DVD

 

[E]

Super abilities? Check
Hero? Check

I guess so it seems to add up

A heroic character who has abilities is not the same as a superhero, and a book featuring said character is not always a superhero book.

Granted I've only read 1 Hellboy story (the first) and haven't seen the movie I'm not exactly an expert, but it is definitely not a superhero book.

 

[ourchair]

My definition of superhero is this:

Is he heroic, and is he kinda super in being heroic?

If so, he is a superhero.

In that regard, Hellboy is not a series of superhero stories nor is it a superhero book but Hellboy is most definitely, a superhero.

 

[Random]

My definition of superhero is this:

Is he heroic, and is he kinda super in being heroic?

If so, he is a superhero.

In that regard, Hellboy is not a series of superhero stories nor is it a superhero book but Hellboy is most definitely, a superhero.

Basically what I was trying to saying, he falls under the blanket

 

[thee great one]

My definition of superhero is this:

Is he heroic, and is he kinda super in being heroic?

If so, he is a superhero.

In that regard, Hellboy is not a series of superhero stories nor is it a superhero book but Hellboy is most definitely, a superhero.

Yes. The movies are much more superheroly than the comics are.

 

[Ice]

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/found-captain-america-in-the-incredible-hulk.php

this, apparently is a screen shot from the alternate beginning in which you catch a glimpse of Cap frozen in the ice

Here's a much clearer shot from Yahoo! talking about this as well:

 

[SSJmole]

I just saw that on yahoo, That's cool as hell

 

[Ice]

I just saw that on yahoo, That's cool as hell

Yeah, that's where it's from. I was surprised to see it.

 

[SSJmole]

Yeah, that's where it's from. I was surprised to see it.

Any idea if it's on uk dvd and bluray too? I know our one is missing some stuff

 

[thee great one]

I picked up my Blu-Ray copy yesterday. It's much better when you can actually hear it.

 

[ourchair]

According to Kevin Feige, it is more likely that the next time we see Hulk in his own film will be after he pops up in Avengers. That pretty much sums up this story from MTV News.

But if Feige's assertions can be taken at face value, and the film is viewed internally as a huge success, why is it that the studio's plans moving forward don't seem to include "The Hulk"? While "Iron Man 2" and "Iron Man 3" have already been scheduled, and "The Avengers" is readying for a 2011 release, not so much as a whisper has been heard about a possible "Hulk 2." Star Edward Norton himself recently told MTV News that he had no idea about a follow-up, calling "the minds of Marvel ... sometimes opaque."

"The truth is that Hulk has had two films in the past five years, and it's time to give some of the other guys a turn," Feige said of why there was no scheduled "Hulk 2." "But certainly what we are doing is suggesting and cross-pollinating the characters between films, and like reading a comic, I'd like to set that expectation that anything can happen — and anyone can pop up — in anybody else's story.

More from the link above.

 

[Random]

According to Kevin Feige, it is more likely that the next time we see Hulk in his own film will be after he pops up in Avengers. That pretty much sums up this story from MTV News.

More from the link above.

I don't think Iron man 3 is in the plans right now?

 

[Planet-man]

I'm waiting for the Edward Norton cut, or at least something with the cut 70 mins viewable on the DVD somehow.

I'd define super-hero as somebody who is an overall hero and does good things in super-human ways. This does not necessarily just mean "powers".

And Ourchair, I'd take your Elfman-bashing a little more seriously if you didn't say the same thing about Hans Zimmer a while ago. Ad hominym, I know, but... what the hell is it with you and awesome composers?

 

[Random]

I'm waiting for the Edward Norton cut, or at least something with the cut 70 mins viewable on the DVD somehow.

I heard most of it wasn't really that spectacular and was cut only to fit under the two hour line. It just expands on things but not really affecting the overall story too much, save for the arctic and Sampson scenes

 

[Planet-man]

I heard most of it wasn't really that spectacular and was cut only to fit under the two hour line. It just expands on things but not really affecting the overall story too much, save for the arctic and Sampson scenes

The two halves of that sentence don't complement each other. If it was cut only to fit under the two hour line, wouldn't that improve its chances of being great?

Either way I want to see all the stuff. I love expansion.

 

[Langsta]

After the Hulk and the army lay waste to that college campus (about halfway into the movie), there's a news broadcast on television that shows a student reporter who witnessed the incident, and who is identified as "Jack McGee." Jack McGee was the reporter from the 1970s television series who antagonnized Banner I guess.

 

[Random]

The two halves of that sentence don't complement each other. If it was cut only to fit under the two hour line, wouldn't that improve its chances of being great?

Either way I want to see all the stuff. I love expansion.

Not really, just means nothing important happens, just a little more dialog, etc. Doesn't mean improvement, just mean longer

 

[thee great one]

I watched 54 minutes of deleted scenes.

They should of left at least a couple of the Samson scenes in so we can at least get a hint of his character.

 

[ourchair]

I think you're taking my Elfman bashing too seriously. I don't feel THAT strongly about it.

As for Hans Zimmer, I have enjoyed his scores actually -- Black Hawk Down is quite good, even though I care little for the movie, but he does get kind of repetitive. The score to the first Pirates movie resembles too many of the motifs from the opening scenes of Gladiator. Zimmer also writes better build up cues than he does action themes, as in Batman Begins.

I think part of the problem with appraising some of the biggest names in film scoring these days is that far too often, some scores are praised because the movie was already good. Because the product rates so highly, it's easier to praise the music. Which is not to say that said composer has not done a good score before, I'm just saying that the reception of the movie affects the perception of how good the score is purported to be.

 

[Gothamite]

I watched 54 minutes of deleted scenes.

They should of left at least a couple of the Samson scenes in so we can at least get a hint of his character.

Did we get the proper ending that Marvel promised us for months (the homage to the TV show, with Banner walking off into the distance and the sad music playing)?

Otherwise, I see no reason in buying this at all.