Arrowverse / DC-CW Timeline (v 3.0)

[Pro Bot]

Oh boy yeah. I just hope he's "scraping at the door" ready to say "I'm a Superman! I'm a Superman!"

Seriously though, Nicholas Cage Superman was so random they might as well do it.

 

[Pro Bot]

Brandon Routh

How swell.

Tom Welling
Just had a thought...

"But Smallville's Earth-13 and Earth-37 are destroyed in the Season 11 comics, whereas in the Arrowverse-"

Earth-Smallville (2001?) Superman fought the Monitors already. I guess it's weird to think he has gone through two Crisis on Infinite Earths scenarios. I guess he's got some experience in multiverse ending catastrophes, so maybe, hopefully, he'll bring it up in the crossover?

 

[selfishmisery]

Earth-Smallville (2001?) has Superman fought the Monitors already. I guess it's weird to think he has gone through two Crisis on Infinite Earths scenarios. I guess he's got some experience in multiverse ending catastrophes, so maybe, hopefully, he'll bring it up in the crossover?

Marc Gugginheim just confirmed on Twitter that the Season 11 comics are indeed still CANON.

 

[Rman]

I just rewatched The Flash 4x12, Honey, I Shrunk Team Flash and the episode can actually be broken down a little more than it currently is. When Joe and Cecille visit the therapist, we can see on her notepad that the date is 1/30/18 (episode's airdate). So, 4x12 should be broken up as followed.

Day 1 (January 29th)- Cecille realizes she has powers, Big Sir shares his backstory with Barry and how he is innocent.
Day 2 (January 30th)- The day that the episode aired, and the bulk of the episode.
Day 3 (January 31st)-Barry tells Big Sir that Rudnine won't confess and helps him escape to China.
Day 4 (February 1st)- The warden tells Barry that Big Sir disappeared last night and that he knows Barry is The Flash.


Now the next episode (True Colors) is broken out as being February 1st-3rd and surprisingly everything still fits. 4x12 ends with the warden telling Barry he knows he is The Flash, placing him in a metahuman cell, and calling Amunet. 4x13 picks up with Amunet arriving and the warden showing her different metahumans for her to buy. He's wearing the exact same tie, so it's easy to assume it's the same night.

 

[selfishmisery]

Okay so here's the deal: I got stupid behind on this because I've been so caught up in other things in my life that I could not focus going through 70+ episodes that still has to be in the timeline.

Obviously that won't be possible before Supergirl and Batwoman air tomorrow night. Here's the plan though, I AM going to keep up with the new episodes and fill those in as they air ... but that will leave a year-long gap in between. But that gap will gradually be filled in through out the rest of the year, IN FULL in time for Crisis. I know that's unorganized and I'm basically jumping from the current seasons to the previous ones. But it's better than just waiting for me to fill what's missing right now before getting to what's coming very, very soon.

I appreciate the suggestions folks, and I'll try to keep up the pace from here on out. I apologize for the silence here.

 

[selfishmisery]

Of course my cable box didn't record the frakking shows for whatever reason...it'll be updated tomorrow when the episodes are on the CW site. -_-

 

[Rman]

Okay so here's the deal: I got stupid behind on this because I've been so caught up in other things in my life that I could not focus going through 70+ episodes that still has to be in the timeline.

Obviously that won't be possible before Supergirl and Batwoman air tomorrow night. Here's the plan though, I AM going to keep up with the new episodes and fill those in as they air ... but that will leave a year-long gap in between. But that gap will gradually be filled in through out the rest of the year, IN FULL in time for Crisis. I know that's unorganized and I'm basically jumping from the current seasons to the previous ones. But it's better than just waiting for me to fill what's missing right now before getting to what's coming very, very soon.

I appreciate the suggestions folks, and I'll try to keep up the pace from here on out. I apologize for the silence here.

I've been rewatching all the shows prior to Crisis and will soon be on last year's seasons. If you want, I could keep track and help you out with the timeline as I go through them.

 

[Dok95]

The only Batwoman episode who takes place chronologically before Elseworlds is the Pilot?
Or are there other Batwoman episodes that take place chronologically before Elseworlds?

 

[Pro Bot]

The only Batwoman episode who takes place chronologically before Elseworlds is the Pilot?
Or are there other Batwoman episodes that take place chronologically before Elseworlds?

At least to the 3rd episode, at most the 8th episode.

 

[Dok95]

At least to the 3rd episode, at most the 8th episode.

Thanks! How do we know it's at least the third episode?
And I guess it's at most the 8th because it's the crossover episode?

 

[Pro Bot]

Episode 3:
As the city waits impatiently for another visit from who they think is Batman, Alice continues to taunt Kate with a secret but also sets her sights on Jacob and Catherine. Kate is visited by Tommy Elliot, a childhood friend of her cousin who has finally realized his lifelong dream of being wealthier than Bruce Wayne and throws a party so all of Gotham can celebrate his success. Mary gets an unexpected new bestie when Sophie is assigned to protect her. Luke and Kate work together to uncover who may have taken a valuable weapon from Batman's arsenal. And as Batwoman faces a new enemy, Kate realizes she must either walk away from her new role or fully embrace the mantle as Gotham's new hope.[9]

They won't know she's not Batman if shes wearing the Batwoman suit.

 

[Dok95]

I see, thanks! So for now, she has not encountered Green Arrow, Flash, Supergirl...

 

[Pro Bot]

Little off topic for the Arrowverse, but I'm guessing you'll add the Crisis scenes set in Black Lightning's earth in the Black Lightning timeline, or will you Include the full episode?

 

[selfishmisery]

I've been rewatching all the shows prior to Crisis and will soon be on last year's seasons. If you want, I could keep track and help you out with the timeline as I go through them.

I would appreciate that, thank you.

 

[Treacleman]

I've been following through last year's seasons (have got as far as the Elseworlds crossover) and since I got to the end of your timeline, have found this timeline to be entirely accurate. It doesn't include dates, but I think it's a good place to start for episode order!

 

[Rman]

I would appreciate that, thank you.

No problem. I'm hoping to have everything finished by Crisis which at my current pace should be no problem.

 

[Pro Bot]

Holy bat snacks, Robin!

 

[iammattie]

 

[Pro Bot]

What about Chris O'Donnell as Dick Grayson/Nightwing?

 

[iammattie]

What about Chris O'Donnell as Dick Grayson/Nightwing?

My thoughts are that the Kingdom Come World is a merging of Burtonverse/Donnerverse (Superman 1,2, Returns) following up on that "Superman Works Alone" line in Batman and Robin. Since they've recast that Batman multiple times before, Conroy can be him no problem. Burt Ward may be a reprisal of that worlds Robin (hence why they haven't announced his character yet. Doesnt make sense to me to bring in 66verse without west.) Ted, from WDb, thinks that the newspaper might be a Birds of Prey reference since in that universe Helena was Batman/Catwoman's daughter, but she was Helena Kyle and didnt know about her dad so idk.

 

[Pro Bot]

My thoughts are that the Kingdom Come World is a merging of Burtonverse/Donnerverse (Superman 1,2, Returns) following up on that "Superman Works Alone" line in Batman and Robin. Since they've recast that Batman multiple times before, Conroy can be him no problem. Burt Ward may be a reprisal of that worlds Robin (hence why they haven't announced his character yet. Doesnt make sense to me to bring in 66verse without west.) Ted, from WDb, thinks that the newspaper might be a Birds of Prey reference since in that universe Helena was Batman/Catwoman's daughter, but she was Helena Kyle and didnt know about her dad so idk.

Can't be Birds of Prey in my opinion, since Joker dies in '89 and Barbara is related to Alfred Pennyworth in the Burtonverse while shes related to James Gordon in the Birds of Prey universe. Why would they show Michael Keaton too?

I like the idea that this is the Kingdom Come universe. How about getting a Ryan Reynolds Hal Jordan reference too, or even the 2011 Wonder Woman pilot for the sake of it?

I think it is the Dozierverse Robin since the bright colours match the '66 atmosphere and the sweater is in Robin colours, which, to me, implies a connection. I think we can all agree that's Bat Hound, right?

The Arrowverse has actually used something from the Burtonverse before already, and it's not Mr. Freeze's Freeze Gun.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/MacGregor's_Syndrome

 

[TalonCard]

Given that this is supposed to be Crisis on Infinite Earths, I can't imagine they'd combine many, if any, of the previously unrelated movie/film universes. More movies/shows=more Earths.

 

[Pro Bot]

Given that this is supposed to be Crisis on Infinite Earths, I can't imagine they'd combine many, if any, of the previously unrelated movie/film universes. More movies/shows=more Earths.

No kidding.

Diggle when he finds out he's next to the bloody Devil would be so damn awesome. Clark Kent looks like Cain, so that's an interesting interaction idea. Not sure on reliability here, though.

Now, I'd like a tie in to Swamp Thing...

 

[iammattie]

Given that this is supposed to be Crisis on Infinite Earths, I can't imagine they'd combine many, if any, of the previously unrelated movie/film universes. More movies/shows=more Earths.

I can understand this take, but simultaneously, Infinite Earths doesn't mean infinite screen time.

 

[Pro Bot]

Robert Wuhl will be reprising his role as Alexander Knox from 1989's Batman movie. I guess that confirms it's in it's own continuity and it's not a Birds of Prey reference.

https://canadagraphs.weebly.com/cri...omorrow-october-10-downtown-vancouver-filming

 

[selfishmisery]

I gotta be honest with you guys. I've been totally exhausted and physically sick this whole month...haven't had the motivation to do anything other than sleep in bed tbh.

I'm trying to get out of this funk as soon as I can so I can get back to this.

 

[iammattie]

I gotta be honest with you guys. I've been totally exhausted and physically sick this whole month...haven't had the motivation to do anything other than sleep in bed tbh.

I'm trying to get out of this funk as soon as I can so I can get back to this.

Hope you get to feeling better! Rest assured that we probably all agree that your personal health is of more importance than message board posts about fictional timelines. Don't feel bad about it, rest up!

 

[Pro Bot]

Don't you just love a recast?
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2019/10...rigan-casting-crossover-cw-arrow-stephen-loboOh well, it's not like they're retconing the Constantine series. They confirmed it's canon, referenced the events in Arrow's episode, used a version of his theme, used stock footage and cast an actress who's black to play Astra, which would be a strange coincidence if they weren't connected, especially since Astra is traditionally white.

The Arrowverse's producers have previously said that NBC's Constantine series isn't set in the traditional Arrowverse, even though Matt Ryan has continued to reprise his role as John Constantine in DC's Legends of Tomorrow.

Lying about what your own website reported? Maybe they have a short memory, or are talking about another source.
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/08/12/arrow-constantine-will-help-bring-sara-lance-back

In terms of whether we should assume that this is firmly considered the same version of Constantine from his own series (and thus retroactively linking the Constantine series to the Arrow-verse), Mericle said, "Absolutely. He is coming in fully as who he was on the show. We're getting wardrobe. We're very excited to have him. He's a tremendous actor. It's so cool to have that cross-pollination. We are very lucky and DC was very generous letting us have him."

Get well soon.

 

[TalonCard]

I mean, there's no reason why this Jim Corrigan can't be from some other Earth in the multiverse. Still, a recast or retconning NBC Constantine to another Earth wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

 

[Pro Bot]

Still, a recast or retconning NBC Constantine to another Earth wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Recast - yes
Retcon - no

While it's not the worst thing in the world, nothing except the worst thing in the world is. I'd definitely prefer they keep Constantine canon over a retcon, since that show was quite good and expanded on the understanding of the Arrowverse's history, particularly that involving magic. I guess Lucifer takes up that space now, though.