Comics you haven't read but should

Actually, that one is on my list.

(And yes, I know -- mature reader advisory....)

Uh-oh....

Seldes is going to come in here and start trying out all the new dirty words she learns about in Scalped.


I read it to the point where we found out whassisname is
an undercover cop
then got bored and forgot all about it.
 
I've read the first volume and I presume it gets better later on as at the moment it seems quite basic, standard stuff.
 
Actually, that one is on my list.

(And yes, I know -- mature reader advisory....)


Uh-oh....

Seldes is going to come in here and start trying out all the new dirty words she learns about in Scalped.

She's a big girl with cable TV. I'm sure she's heard these words before.










Now....in an ironic twist.....watch Seldes respond by saying that she doesn't actually have cable and the primary basic channels are quite sufficient. :lol:

I assumed she did have cable, how else would she see all the great destination ideas of the Travel Channel when planning her vacations?



I read it to the point where we found out whassisname is
an undercover cop
then got bored and forgot all about it.

I've read the first volume and I presume it gets better later on as at the moment it seems quite basic, standard stuff.

The first arc set the general premise.....but it gets way better as the story progresses. Casino Boogie arc and Dead Mothers are amazing.
 
She's a big girl with cable TV. I'm sure she's heard these words before.

Now....in an ironic twist.....watch Seldes respond by saying that she doesn't actually have cable and the primary basic channels are quite sufficient. :lol:
Heh. Especially PBS. Because it's all, you know, educational and stuff. :wink:

I assumed she did have cable, how else would she see all the great destination ideas of the Travel Channel when planning her vacations?
And the Discovery Channel, and the National Geographic Channel, and, occasionally, the Sci-Fi and Cartoon Network channels. (I realize that admitting to that last one completely destroys my image as an intelligent, educated professional, but the Cartoon Network is running the Clone Wars series, so....)


May I remind you guys that I work with teenagers? I don't need cable television and comic books to get the latest style of profanity.... unfortunately.
 
Read Kid Eternity and Kill Your Boyfriend. The former was hard to get through... the art was suitable but it's the kind of art that requires you to stare at for a while before you know what's going on. Probably better on rereads.

I really liked Kill Your Boyfriend. A very different Morrison comic (I see that he wrote most of it in New Zealand; this probably explains it). It does seem strange that this kind of story is so common now.
 
So, I've been meaning to pick up Crisis on Infinte Earths for a while now, and I finally did, and I'm about half way through it and it's REALLY boring!
I'm forcing myself to finish it, but I just don't care what's going on!

It's pretty disappointing, really
 
I find alot of older stories were made for their time.

What makes a story good in my opinion, is a story that withstands the test of time, and is good for readers 40 years down the road as it was when it first came out.
 
So, I've been meaning to pick up Crisis on Infinte Earths for a while now, and I finally did, and I'm about half way through it and it's REALLY boring!
I'm forcing myself to finish it, but I just don't care what's going on!

It's pretty disappointing, really

I find that with a lot of silver age books. The Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man omnibus volumes are murder to get through.
 
I find that with a lot of silver age books. The Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man omnibus volumes are murder to get through.

I hope I don't feel that way about the Brubaker Capt America Omnibus in 25 years (but I suppose readers of 60's Spider-man would never have guessed this either). The 'current-ness' of the story may ultimately date it.
 
I find alot of older stories were made for their time.

What makes a story good in my opinion, is a story that withstands the test of time, and is good for readers 40 years down the road as it was when it first came out.

I find that with a lot of silver age books. The Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man omnibus volumes are murder to get through.

I hope I don't feel that way about the Brubaker Capt America Omnibus in 25 years (but I suppose readers of 60's Spider-man would never have guessed this either). The 'current-ness' of the story may ultimately date it.

well, see that's the thing. I own all of the Essential Spider-Man (vol 1-8) and a few others of those and while I don't go back to them over and over, I generally enjoyed them. The same is true of Secret Wars and the Kree-Skrull War. They weren't the best things I've ever read, the plots were a little weak in points, and the dialogue is SO corny, but they held my interest. The First six issues of Crisis on Infinite Earths are all set up, Moniter, Pariah, and Harbinger are the main characters while the superheroes seem like extras. All you know is that for some reason all of the universes in the multiverse are being destroyed systematically and that the Moniter has some plan to stop the complete destruction of the multiverse, but that's all they give you until issue seven - they don't explain anything. Actually Issues 7 and 8 have been better, I guess the set up is over and now stuff is actually happening. The villain (Anti-Moniter) is introduced and the Moniter's plan is explained and the heroes actually start doing something.

I've still got 4 issues to go, I guess I'll see how I feel about it after I'm done the whole thing.
 
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I hope I don't feel that way about the Brubaker Capt America Omnibus in 25 years (but I suppose readers of 60's Spider-man would never have guessed this either). The 'current-ness' of the story may ultimately date it.

Yeah, it's hard to say. I wonder if people who read Spider-Man in 1963 or whatever thought it was the perfect comic book. Or if they thought the storytelling was at it's pinnacle and couldn't be made any better. Because that's how I feel about some books like Brubaker's Captain America...how can you possibly improve on that? I guess in 25ish years we'll have an idea.
 
What I like to do anytime I take in pretty much anything is look at it as if I was in the era it was first released. I read old Spider-Man comics from the perspective of a teenager in 1963 and it's all great. Even things like Watchmen, which completely stands the test of time, seems more effective if I imagine it's cold-war 80s.

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if they thought the storytelling was at it's pinnacle and couldn't be made any better. Because that's how I feel about some books like Brubaker's Captain America...how can you possibly improve on that? I guess in 25ish years we'll have an idea.

Oh man, I wonder about that all the time, especially with TV shows. Even something as great as the Twilight Zone has obvious goofy aspects now. Will it be the same with LOST? What the hell will they think doesn't hold up a few decades from now?
 
Yeah, it's hard to say. I wonder if people who read Spider-Man in 1963 or whatever thought it was the perfect comic book. Or if they thought the storytelling was at it's pinnacle and couldn't be made any better. Because that's how I feel about some books like Brubaker's Captain America...how can you possibly improve on that? I guess in 25ish years we'll have an idea.

Hey, there's the basic question of post-modernity for you. Where do we go from here?

I don't think it's so different from the 80's, where you had a massive influx of creative talent that basically opened the doors to literary comics. But at the same time, how much of that seems timely today? Maybe five percent. I think we've reached a point where the legitimacy of comics, and the legitimacy of the creative talent involved, means any era from here on out is going to have its timeless classic.

I dig Bru, but I can't really see Captain America as being the pinnacle of comic books, not looking back at comics that have been made, and not looking forward at comics that will be made. It's rock solid storytelling, but it doesn't really stretch the medium, either visually or in the writing.
 
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So i finished Crisis on Infinite Earths

the second half was definitely better than the first half, but it was still very boring over all. The most interesting issue was #11 (second to last) which dealt with the heroes trying to sort out the fact that the remaining earths have been combined into one and some of them have had their whole lives erased from history but still exist b/c they were there at the dawn of time when everything was changed.
 
Oh man, I wonder about that all the time, especially with TV shows. Even something as great as the Twilight Zone has obvious goofy aspects now. Will it be the same with LOST? What the hell will they think doesn't hold up a few decades from now?
LOST already doesn't hold up now.
 
So i finished Crisis on Infinite Earths

the second half was definitely better than the first half, but it was still very boring over all. The most interesting issue was #11 (second to last) which dealt with the heroes trying to sort out the fact that the remaining earths have been combined into one and some of them have had their whole lives erased from history but still exist b/c they were there at the dawn of time when everything was changed.

I think i begun to read on my computer, but felt it would be a lot easier if i bought it. Isn't it right that one of the cliffhangers of one of the issues the whole universe just dissappears..that sounds pretty cool.

And I read Legends pretty recently too, that seemed really good to be honest, it's like the first event after COIE - so for a lot of heroes it's their first event - including first appearance of WW outside her comic, and formation of new Justice League (JLI).

It has a lot of similar themes as final crisis did with Darkseid trying to create an atmosphere of dread. Captain Marvel has just begun his career and Darkseid convinces him he's killed someone so he gives up being captain marvel. Also there's some great dialogue with Phantom Stranger and Darkseid just chatting about the need for heroes etc. If you liked final crisis then this is where it all started, moreso than COIE or IC or the other IC. It stands the test of time, I found it easy enough to get into, but maybe like planet-man says, imagine you're a fan at the time it came out, and then it's easily as good as Final Crisis or secret invasion or whatever they're peddling next year.

Also Kid Eternity - rocks. Definitely one to re-read a few times. And a good character too. wish he was still about.
 

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